Discussion Why I don't think the whitepill is the way to go for everyone

[pyramidcel]

The blue pill (mixed with the red pill to a degree but some may say its the same pill) basically fail us. We try to follow the life script and we just get bullied or discriminated against (whatever the reason) and it leads many of us to the blackpill which explains why we suffered and how its not our fault or what not.

However the white pill is similar to the blue pill in the sense that people present something to you that dictates how you should live your life or see things. In my opinion sometimes issues require neuroticism or cynacism and you can't brush them aside with the white pill or positive emotions, and other times a whitepill approach may be better. But I think adopting the white pill is the same as adopting any other pill, it may not fit to your circumstances.

My biggest mistake has been trusting external advice and people over my own experience and intuition. I think MGTOW with their self actualization had it right (if you can ignore the cope) in the sense that nobody else can really give you purpose or advice for your situation / values.

My suggestion for everyone would be to not listen to any gurus, or blackpillers, or whitepillers or society and rather just to your own judgement on things. Outsourcing advice can be dangerous. Do your own research and trust your intuition. Think things thorugh. In my case it pays do be cynical but I can't give that advice universally to others.

 

[Fantasea]

AVIless moment

 

[Two-jay]

DO WHATEVER YOU WANT-PILL!

OH MY GOD! YOU ARE SO WISE!

The blue pill (mixed with the red pill to a degree but some may say its the same pill) basically fail us. We try to follow the life script and we just get bullied or discriminated against (whatever the reason) and it leads many of us to the blackpill which explains why we suffered and how its not our fault or what not.

However the white pill is similar to the blue pill in the sense that people present something to you that dictates how you should live your life or see things. In my opinion sometimes issues require neuroticism or cynacism and you can't brush them aside with the white pill or positive emotions, and other times a whitepill approach may be better. But I think adopting the white pill is the same as adopting any other pill, it may not fit to your circumstances.

My biggest mistake has been trusting external advice and people over my own experience and intuition. I think MGTOW with their self actualization had it right (if you can ignore the cope) in the sense that nobody else can really give you purpose or advice for your situation / values.

My suggestion for everyone would be to not listen to any gurus, or blackpillers, or whitepillers or society and rather just to your own judgement on things. Outsourcing advice can be dangerous. Do your own research and trust your intuition. Think things thorugh. In my case it pays do be cynical but I can't give that advice universally to others.

Not but really, the purpose of the information you find is for you to make your own opinions, and to not follow it blindly. As you say, it always goes back to "find your own way", and it is simply because we all have different life circumstances and genetics. I don't know why people ttry to conform to some bullshit ideal. That shit does not exist.

Men going their own way babe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Queen Belle]

I think MGTOW with their self actualization had it right (if you can ignore the cope) in the sense that nobody else can really give you purpose or advice for your situation / values.

I might be more MGTOW than whitepill. I dont feel like figuring out how the pills work. I hear MGTOW is for old guys but im a neet not a wagecuck so I rather hang out with neetcels.

 

[pyramidcel]

DO WHATEVER YOU WANT-PILL!

OH MY GOD! YOU ARE SO WISE!



Not but really, the purpose of the information you find is for you to make your own opinions, and to not follow it blindly. As you say, it always goes back to "find your own way", and it is simply because we all have different life circumstances and genetics. I don't know why people ttry to conform to some bullshit ideal. That shit does not exist.

Men going their own way babe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I understand the humor but you can attack anyone making a positive claim. Even if someone said good information you could just go "thanks for stating the obvious". But neuroticism / low agreeabless can help in a lot of cases, perhaps I should be more contrarian myself however its not a pro social thing.

I might be more MGTOW than whitepill. I dont feel like figuring out how the pills work. I hear MGTOW is for old guys but im a neet not a wagecuck so I rather hang out with neetcels.

Actual NEET's are hard to come by given most of the real NEET's have introverted personality types which is why they're NEET's in the first place. Even on NEET servers a lot of them are working or have jobs, or just move on after a couple of months. For an actual NEET the only Hikimorri/NEET space will be their bedroom.

 

[Fantasea]

I understand the humor but you can attack anyone making a positive claim. Even if someone said good information you could just go "thanks for stating the obvious". But neuroticism / low agreeabless can help in a lot of cases, perhaps I should be more contrarian myself however its not a pro social thing.

cope as you wish. the whitepill doesn't force you to adopt any strategies in particular.

 

[pyramidcel]

cope as you wish. the whitepill doesn't force you to adopt any strategies in particular.

The Whitepill (sometimes referred to as the ∅-Pill or Hedonic Null-Set) is a philosophical and ethical framework that blends elements of asceticism (self-discipline and denial of pleasure) with nihilism (the belief that life lacks inherent meaning).

Isn't this a strategy? as in "a plan of action designed to achieve a long-term or overall aim"

You could argue that you don't have to adopt the white pill itself, but my belief is that this forum is centered around the white pill.

 

[Queen Belle]

Even on NEET servers a lot of them are working or have jobs, or just move on after a couple of months.

There are more neets here than on .net or maybe they have moved on

 

[Fantasea]

The Whitepill (sometimes referred to as the ∅-Pill or Hedonic Null-Set) is a philosophical and ethical framework that blends elements of asceticism (self-discipline and denial of pleasure) with nihilism (the belief that life lacks inherent meaning).

how you achieve the above is ur choice. that's what I meant by strategy (the means by which you strive to follow this ideology). it's just a DLC to the blackpill. if ur not even blackpilled then I suppose everything would seem confusing.

You could argue that you don't have to adopt the white pill itself, but my belief is that this forum is centered around the white pill.

Well I shared the same belief for 2 seconds. this is just a neets.net #2 tbh.

 

[pyramidcel]

how you achieve the above is ur choice. that's what I meant by strategy. it's just a DLC to the blackpill. if ur not even blackpilled then I suppose everything would seem confusing.

My post is basically saying that adopting the white pill in the first place is just swapping out one belief system with another and may not make you achieve the goals you want rather than stratagies within the white pill framework. I'm not saying its good/bad rather than we need to be careful of anyone giving a belief system to us, perhaps its better that we adopt one that aligns with our intuition or goals.

Well I shared the same belief for 2 seconds. this is just a neets.net #2 tbh.

Jfl

 

[Fantasea]

My post is basically saying that adopting the white pill in the first place is just swapping out one belief system with another and may not make you achieve the goals you want rather than stratagies within the white pill framework. I'm not saying its good/bad rather than we need to be careful of anyone giving a belief system to us, perhaps its better that we adopt one that aligns with our intuition or goals.

the whitepill as we know it was derived from a blackpill incel community which it works best for. do as u please tho.

Jfl

there's a ton of good whitepill threads here but in terms of userbase there's essentially no gatekeeping. squeakers, bluepillers, redpillers, fags, troon enjoyers......we have it all here.

 

[Exorcist]

AVIless moment

 

[Tabula Rasa]

dictates how you should live your life or see things. In my opinion sometimes issues require neuroticism or cynacism and you can't brush them aside with the white pill or positive emotions, and other times a whitepill approach may be better. But I think adopting the white pill is the same as adopting any other pill, it may not fit to your circumstances.

My biggest mistake has been trusting external advice and people over my own experience and intuition. I think MGTOW with their self actualization had it right (if you can ignore the cope) in the sense that nobody else can really give you purpose or advice for your situation / values.

My suggestion for everyone would be to not listen to any gurus, or blackpillers, or whitepillers or society and rather just to your own judgement on things. Outsourcing advice can be dangerous. Do your own research and trust your intuition. Think things thorugh. In my case it pays do be cynical but I can't give that advice universally to others.

Not really considering it's an individualist philosophy. It doesn't provide universal advice to everyone. It provides some guidance and suggestions on things a person can take to improve existing life outcomes, but it's ultimately up for the individual to decide what's best and most optimal for his own life.

 

[Two-jay]

I understand the humor but you can attack anyone making a positive claim. Even if someone said good information you could just go "thanks for stating the obvious". But neuroticism / low agreeabless can help in a lot of cases, perhaps I should be more contrarian myself however its not a pro social thing.

Actual NEET's are hard to come by given most of the real NEET's have introverted personality types which is why they're NEET's in the first place. Even on NEET servers a lot of them are working or have jobs, or just move on after a couple of months. For an actual NEET the only Hikimorri/NEET space will be their bedroom.

There is no need to overcomplicate anything. From the standpoint of pessimistic philosophy of which I am a fan of, the WP is all about suffering reduction. Sure, there are some guidelines offered here and in other places by some people, but it is up to you to optimize your suffering-reduction-based-strategy by considering your individual circumstances.

 

[LaserGunPewPew]

I haven't seen anything valuable from mgtow beyond it's on paper mission statement. Clearly, it lacks any sufficient answers seeing as how no mgtow is actually going anywhere. Perhaps Stardusk? He seems like he has intellectually-induced asexuality. Vast majority? Nothing special. Merely sent their own way.

 

[Queen Belle]

I haven't seen anything valuable from mgtow beyond it's on paper mission statement. Clearly, it lacks any sufficient answers seeing as how no mgtow is actually going anywhere. Perhaps Stardusk? He seems like he has intellectually-induced asexuality. Vast majority? Nothing special. Merely sent their own way.

Whats it supposed to do?
Its a bunch a grown men afraid of pussy. What more do you want?