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Why I support mandatory male slavery and forced castration or military service
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<blockquote data-quote="wait whattt? :o" data-source="post: 66812" data-attributes="member: 564"><p>I see where you are coming from, but I genuinely don't see how societies will shift towards a matriarchy, especially when Western societies seem to reform gender, which I feel would make it harder for a matriarchy to manifest (or at least not in the way we might typically define it).</p><p></p><p>Also, this is an interesting framing. You claim that the vast majority of men cannot achieve high status despite hard work, yet I feel that is just as applicable to many women. If I had to accept that it is easier for women to achieve high status, then the only way I can think of is through hypergamy but that further illustrates how society is actually patriarchal because that means men gatekeep the upper status of society and women's access to that level of society is THROUGH men (unless we consider women who had a stroke of luck + hard work to achieve high status which, again, more men have done this than women). I am genuinely curious, why do you think society today is estrocentric or "female-dominated"? Why do you think it will shift to a matriarchal one?</p><p></p><p>Also, on an unrelated note: how did you do this thing where you quote different sections of my message? Quite handy :D</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wait whattt? :o, post: 66812, member: 564"] I see where you are coming from, but I genuinely don't see how societies will shift towards a matriarchy, especially when Western societies seem to reform gender, which I feel would make it harder for a matriarchy to manifest (or at least not in the way we might typically define it). Also, this is an interesting framing. You claim that the vast majority of men cannot achieve high status despite hard work, yet I feel that is just as applicable to many women. If I had to accept that it is easier for women to achieve high status, then the only way I can think of is through hypergamy but that further illustrates how society is actually patriarchal because that means men gatekeep the upper status of society and women's access to that level of society is THROUGH men (unless we consider women who had a stroke of luck + hard work to achieve high status which, again, more men have done this than women). I am genuinely curious, why do you think society today is estrocentric or "female-dominated"? Why do you think it will shift to a matriarchal one? Also, on an unrelated note: how did you do this thing where you quote different sections of my message? Quite handy :D [/QUOTE]
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