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<blockquote data-quote="wait whattt? :o" data-source="post: 66898" data-attributes="member: 564"><p>Those are very insightful pages you have linked, especially the first.</p><p></p><p>Funny enough, I was just thinking few days ago about how femininity being considered of lower status than masculinity was, in part (if not mostly), due to feminine roles such as domestic and care labor being "invisible" to society. I mean, it makes sense to me at least. Domestic and care labor is long-term, not really measurable, and not deterministic either. Society will obviously prioritize and track labor that is measurable, produces faster and predictable results, which men happen to historically occupy until recently more or less.</p><p></p><p>I can't help but feel that the article is a tad bit idealistic though XD</p><p>Like, I get where they are coming from and those are decent ideas but how do you come about executing it.</p><p>Also, it makes me wonder: should domestic and care labor continue to be a purely feminine role? Should society continue to push such labor towards women? Or should society start pushing such labor towards men as well. There are certainly men who invest in domestic and care labor, no doubt, though certainly not as much as women. IF men start investing more into such, would that also help solve the issue of undervaluing care and domestic labor? Idk the answers but those are interesting questions and I wonder if you (or anyone who cares to share) know of examples of this being attempted or being the case.</p><p></p><p>Interesting article though! :D</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wait whattt? :o, post: 66898, member: 564"] Those are very insightful pages you have linked, especially the first. Funny enough, I was just thinking few days ago about how femininity being considered of lower status than masculinity was, in part (if not mostly), due to feminine roles such as domestic and care labor being "invisible" to society. I mean, it makes sense to me at least. Domestic and care labor is long-term, not really measurable, and not deterministic either. Society will obviously prioritize and track labor that is measurable, produces faster and predictable results, which men happen to historically occupy until recently more or less. I can't help but feel that the article is a tad bit idealistic though XD Like, I get where they are coming from and those are decent ideas but how do you come about executing it. Also, it makes me wonder: should domestic and care labor continue to be a purely feminine role? Should society continue to push such labor towards women? Or should society start pushing such labor towards men as well. There are certainly men who invest in domestic and care labor, no doubt, though certainly not as much as women. IF men start investing more into such, would that also help solve the issue of undervaluing care and domestic labor? Idk the answers but those are interesting questions and I wonder if you (or anyone who cares to share) know of examples of this being attempted or being the case. Interesting article though! :D [/QUOTE]
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