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<blockquote data-quote="Sovereign" data-source="post: 61835" data-attributes="member: 10">Basically this in part, to add unto it would be yes they are a loose gathering of people and in reality that was emotionally charged by Eliot Roger, that being when the idea itself finally became definable we have what you see today. That being a group of men who share in a common suffering; I personally don&#039;t think it was ever meant to be a movement, but when ER did that shooting it gave a name, a face and an idea to something that would be associated with suffering on that level.I think that despite congregating together it revealed the real negatives of this group, that being there is not 100% sense of trust, because you fear that the friend you may have made will back stab you or if he was a fakecel and gets a girlfriend, what are you left with? It would have been a lovely confederacy of weak men, but this idealization of violence idiocy and death took place rather then a philosophical approach. As in, instead of analyzing that suffering in detail and consoling one another instead they sought after power and destroyed each other for personal benefit and nobody could trust one another.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sovereign, post: 61835, member: 10"] [SIZE=7]Basically this in part, to add unto it would be yes they are a loose gathering of people and in reality that was emotionally charged by Eliot Roger, that being when the idea itself finally became definable we have what you see today. That being a group of men who share in a common suffering; I personally don't think it was ever meant to be a movement, but when ER did that shooting it gave a name, a face and an idea to something that would be associated with suffering on that level. I think that despite congregating together it revealed the real negatives of this group, that being there is not 100% sense of trust, because you fear that the friend you may have made will back stab you or if he was a fakecel and gets a girlfriend, what are you left with? It would have been a lovely confederacy of weak men, but this idealization of violence idiocy and death took place rather then a philosophical approach. As in, instead of analyzing that suffering in detail and consoling one another instead they sought after power and destroyed each other for personal benefit and nobody could trust one another.[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]

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