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<blockquote data-quote="JayJay" data-source="post: 59496" data-attributes="member: 147">I think that detaching yourself might be something along the lines of you having always been pure consciousness. Escaping all identities and thought constructs, basically being without definition nor non-definition, which goes back to nonduality or something like that.I had very interesting experience where I actually observed how a thought that seemt to be coming from me, I mean my ego identity the one I believe I AM, hadn&#039;t been actually thought by me, if you know what I&#039;m saying...I mean, I have a observed how thoughts related to my identity or related to what I think I am have arisen by themselves. I didn&#039;t brought them, they just arose&nbsp; by themselves and &quot;I&quot; observed mindfully. But here&#039;s comes the catch... Who is this &quot;I&quot; that is observing the thoughts arise?&nbsp; Wasn&#039;t it all just not-personal processes where thoughts appropriated them, and in turn, generated self-contracting feelings that felt uncomfortable or painful around needs that arise by themselves through biology, but that are carefully constructed around this psychological construct of language that you and me call &quot;I&quot;?I think that there have to be causes and conditions that allow the body-mind to decondition itself naturally, and to stop suffering around the actor. It is a gradual process of deconditioning achieved by mindfulness practices until the triggers of daily life have a reduced impact you, and depending on your &quot;Karma&quot; or past conditions, this will be hard as hell or easy as heaven. Because here Karma does not mean pushining or reward, it is just an abbreviation for &quot;causes and conditions along the flow of causality that go around pushing for other things, connecting us all through a web of interdependence&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JayJay, post: 59496, member: 147"] I think that detaching yourself might be something along the lines of you having always been pure consciousness. Escaping all identities and thought constructs, basically being without definition nor non-definition, which goes back to nonduality or something like that. I had very interesting experience where I actually observed how a thought that seemt to be coming from me, I mean my ego identity the one I believe I AM, hadn't been actually thought by me, if you know what I'm saying... I mean, I have a observed how thoughts related to my identity or related to what I think I am have arisen by themselves. I didn't brought them, they just arose by themselves and "I" observed mindfully. But here's comes the catch... Who is this "I" that is observing the thoughts arise? Wasn't it all just not-personal processes where thoughts appropriated them, and in turn, generated self-contracting feelings that felt uncomfortable or painful around needs that arise by themselves through biology, but that are carefully constructed around this psychological construct of language that you and me call "I"? I think that there have to be causes and conditions that allow the body-mind to decondition itself naturally, and to stop suffering around the actor. It is a gradual process of deconditioning achieved by mindfulness practices until the triggers of daily life have a reduced impact you, and depending on your "Karma" or past conditions, this will be hard as hell or easy as heaven. Because here Karma does not mean pushining or reward, it is just an abbreviation for "causes and conditions along the flow of causality that go around pushing for other things, connecting us all through a web of interdependence". [/QUOTE]

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