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I view people who say "Height and Face is all that matters" in 2025 the same way I viewed people who said "Just be Confident" in 2015

The Enlightened One
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Both are just as delusional and lagging behind when the understanding of dating dynamics has since moved on

Yeah 2015 tinder experiments were great when we discovered that having a top 0.01% face meant you got exponentially better results than a typical decent looking guy who would expect to get better results than he does.

Both the guys who are still parroting that absolutely any attraction trigger only works because the person that is receiving the attraction has height and face is just as braindead as the "Just be confident" guys were, I'd actually argue that "Just be confident" actually has more truth to it than the belief that absolutely every instance of a woman having attraction to a man was because of his height and face.

I skimmed through this recent Rehab video and the way he explains that this whole foids fantasy only exists because the fantasy she has is of a tall man because she looks up (as if men aren't 5 inches taller than women on average) is so fucking comical.



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Women have been exposed to plenty of tall/goodlooking men in their lifetime, guess what.. they're desensitized to them.
Foids can pass countless tall/goodlooking men without batting an eyelid, unless there's a reason for an interaction to take place they don't give a fuck about them and will forget about them a nano second after seeing them unless they're the best looking man that they've seen in their life up to that point.
Foids fantasies come first then the looks of the man who is best able to fill that fantasy come secondary.

Being hunted down by foids solely for your face starts at a level of face rarity that doesn't apply to anyone on PSL forums
The amount of things that foids prioritize seeking in a partner before they hunt down a guy for his height and face is an exceptionally long catalogue
The guy who's 50th percentile in everything who's right in front of her face and forced to be around her through external circumstances who has behavioural traits that turn her on will be in her fantasy long before some random mogger who she seen online or seen on the street once is.

Romance novels that describe billionaire werewolf gigachads ravaging 35+ year old career women are written for 35+ year old women who don't even have access to social circle maxxed MTNs that young women are taking as their first choice so romance novel readers imagine themselves in scenarios with some gigachads who don't even exist irl
While young girls imagine scenarios with the cocky, funny MTN in her social circle who she thinks might like her back, leaving her no reason to read romance novels describing gigachads.
 
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I'm confident that despite being obese and unattractive facially if I pulled up in a very expensive car I could score a whole lot of sloots, I'm also confident if I had a 8 inch dick I could get someone who just wants a guy with a big dick, I've seen really fat ugly guys with good looking women and I ask my sister "why would she want that fat ugly guy?" and my sister says "its because he has a big dick".

Both these will never happen for me, best I can hope for and have is that I'm a decent height (6 feet), and once I lose the weight and looksmax I will be probably HTN (high tier normie) again, at which time I can probably score a decent looking welfare mother, but then the issue is finding one that hasn't taken 15 cocks.
 
isekai me
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Women have been exposed to plenty of tall/goodlooking men in their lifetime, guess what.. they're desensitized to them.
They’ve been desensitized to thousands of years of evolution? Doesn’t make much sense. They still desire tall men because their brains haven't developed to accommodate the modern world where bone structure doesnt play much of a factor.

The guy who's 50th percentile in everything who's right in front of her face and forced to be around her through external circumstances who has behavioural traits that turn her on will be in her fantasy long before some random mogger who she seen online or seen on the street once is.
now i agree with this partly. Despite popular belief, women do not have unlimited SMV and still generally have to date in their looks range. They’ll settle for a normie because they have to, not because they want to.
 
The Shadow one
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Both are just as delusional and lagging behind when the understanding of dating dynamics has since moved on

Yeah 2015 tinder experiments were great when we discovered that having a top 0.01% face meant you got exponentially better results than a typical decent looking guy who would expect to get better results than he does.

Both the guys who are still parroting that absolutely any attraction trigger only works because the person that is receiving the attraction has height and face is just as braindead as the "Just be confident" guys were, I'd actually argue that "Just be confident" actually has more truth to it than the belief that absolutely every instance of a woman having attraction to a man was because of his height and face.

I skimmed through this recent Rehab video and the way he explains that this whole foids fantasy only exists because the fantasy she has is of a tall man because she looks up (as if men aren't 5 inches taller than women on average) is so fucking comical.



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Women have been exposed to plenty of tall/goodlooking men in their lifetime, guess what.. they're desensitized to them.
Foids can pass countless tall/goodlooking men without batting an eyelid, unless there's a reason for an interaction to take place they don't give a fuck about them and will forget about them a nano second after seeing them unless they're the best looking man that they've seen in their life up to that point.
Foids fantasies come first then the looks of the man who is best able to fill that fantasy come secondary.

Being hunted down by foids solely for your face starts at a level of face rarity that doesn't apply to anyone on PSL forums
The amount of things that foids prioritize seeking in a partner before they hunt down a guy for his height and face is an exceptionally long catalogue
The guy who's 50th percentile in everything who's right in front of her face and forced to be around her through external circumstances who has behavioural traits that turn her on will be in her fantasy long before some random mogger who she seen online or seen on the street once is.

Romance novels that describe billionaire werewolf gigachads ravaging 35+ year old career women are written for 35+ year old women who don't even have access to social circle maxxed MTNs that young women are taking as their first choice so romance novel readers imagine themselves in scenarios with some gigachads who don't even exist irl
While young girls imagine scenarios with the cocky, funny MTN in her social circle who she thinks might like her back, leaving her no reason to read romance novels describing gigachads.

NIce post man, yeah its kinda like that, social circle maxxing, i rather do party maxxing tho, too much time wasted for dating, getting a girlfriend its kinda easy in the end, several girls over my job and the supermarket gave signs of wanting to date despite myself not being totally looksmaxxed, just because i looked cute or with a good sense of moral. The math guy wanted to settle down but focused on only looksmaxxing & money for improvment, instead of choosing that normal girl on the libraly, kinda the same for me too.



They’ve been desensitized to thousands of years of evolution? Doesn’t make much sense. They still desire tall men because their brains haven't developed to accommodate the modern world where bone structure doesnt play much of a factor.


now i agree with this partly. Despite popular belief, women do not have unlimited SMV and still generally have to date in their looks range. They’ll settle for a normie because they have to, not because they want to.
Yeah its cuckmaxxing the whole settling down thing, make sure to have a 7 inch and know how to fuck properly.
 
The Shadow one
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I'm confident that despite being obese and unattractive facially if I pulled up in a very expensive car I could score a whole lot of sloots, I'm also confident if I had a 8 inch dick I could get someone who just wants a guy with a big dick, I've seen really fat ugly guys with good looking women and I ask my sister "why would she want that fat ugly guy?" and my sister says "its because he has a big dick".

Both these will never happen for me, best I can hope for and have is that I'm a decent height (6 feet), and once I lose the weight and looksmax I will be probably HTN (high tier normie) again, at which time I can probably score a decent looking welfare mother, but then the issue is finding one that hasn't taken 15 cocks.
Just take drugs to leanmaxx, tard, i rather go to special forces and do a lot of fighting for status once i settle down in university, stats by 30=5'11-6'1, MTN, 8 inches to 9, bodybuilder lean body, whitemaxxed, also dude, take dunasteride fr.
 
𝕾𝖑𝖆𝖕𝖁𝖊𝖌𝖆🌹
Joined
Oct 15, 2024
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I'm confident that despite being obese and unattractive facially if I pulled up in a very expensive car I could score a whole lot of sloots, I'm also confident if I had a 8 inch dick I could get someone who just wants a guy with a big dick, I've seen really fat ugly guys with good looking women and I ask my sister "why would she want that fat ugly guy?" and my sister says "its because he has a big dick".

Both these will never happen for me, best I can hope for and have is that I'm a decent height (6 feet), and once I lose the weight and looksmax I will be probably HTN (high tier normie) again, at which time I can probably score a decent looking welfare mother, but then the issue is finding one that hasn't taken 15 cocks.
If that's really you in the pic, you are not ugly. You are a 6 in looks, but you can bump that up to 6.5 or 7 with proper weight training.
 
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