Essay Incel culture is indirect female worship

[GGWP]

I liked more what you said before
I think both things are true

My point of contention is portraying men as hopeless romantics when the nature of it is more carnal. Low dimorphism men are just changing their sexual strategy due to higher percieved paternity uncertainty in the traditional route.

blackpilled incels do not do this as they know it won't work.

The very act of identifying as an incel is guilt-tripping. Just think about what it means to identify as an ostracized caste in society openly? You are saying that you're the child that's going to burn down the village unless you recieve love and that you have been forced to identify as such due to your low mate value. Many incels lament that they are so ugly and autistic that nobody will ever love them. In a status-seeking environment such confessions are inhibitory, but in an incel cohort they serve the express purpose of guilt-tripping. It's the same kind of self-victimization women use to accrue resources. Violent outbursts are also guilt-tripping, the implication is 'how dare you let me get to this point, now compensate me for my suffering!'

 

[Fantasea]

The very act of identifying as an incel is guilt-tripping. Just think about what it means to identify as an ostracized caste in society openly? You are saying that you're the child that's going to burn down the village unless you recieve love and that you have been forced to identify as such due to your low mate value. Many incels lament that they are so ugly and autistic that nobody will ever love them. In a status-seeking environment such confessions are inhibitory, but in an incel cohort they serve the express purpose of guilt-tripping. It's the same kind of self-victimization women use to accrue resources. Violent outbursts are also guilt-tripping, the implication is 'how dare you let me get to this point, now compensate me for my suffering!'

most incels just want to vent with men who share similar experiences. calling it guilt-tripping implies incels call women foids and use misogyny as some sort of pick up artistry. sounds like u got all ur info about incels from mainstream media.

 

[Truecel]

trvth

 

[GGWP]

most incels just want to vent with men who share similar experiences. calling it guilt-tripping implies incels call women foids and use misogyny as some sort of pick up artistry. sounds like u got all ur info about incels from mainstream media.

You are not understanding me at all. What is the purpose of venting, biologically speaking, and preaching to a public crowd no less?

 

[Fantasea]

You are not understanding me at all. What is the purpose of venting, biologically speaking, and preaching to a public crowd no less?

the vast majority of incels do not preach to public crowds and venting is often done to attain temporarily relief. this is clearly not ur area of expertise.

 

[GGWP]

the vast majority of incels do not preach to public crowds and venting is often done to attain temporarily relief. this is clearly not ur area of expertise.

The point of venting is to get people to listen to you by guilt-tripping them. You nudge them to spend time and resources on you by professing that you represent an instability. The blackpill posits that there is a biologically determined reason for all human conduct, if you think people just 'vent to attain relief'. Relief from what? What does gaining relief entail, what is the point of putting in effort for relief, and why do people seek 'relief'? Such a postulate answers no biological questions and is bluepilled.

 

[newsincerity]

The point of venting is to get people to listen to you by guilt-tripping them. You nudge them to spend time and resources on you by professing that you represent an instability. The blackpill posits that there is a biologically determined reason for all human conduct, if you think people just 'vent to attain relief'. Relief from what? What does gaining relief entail, what is the point of putting in effort for relief, and why do people seek 'relief'? Such a postulate answers no biological questions and is bluepilled.

venting as the biological organism's answer to stress
duh

 

[Fantasea]

The point of venting is to get people to listen to you by guilt-tripping them. You nudge them to spend time and resources on you by professing that you represent an instability.

they mainly vent to other incels or at the very least other men. if you've been to any incel space you'd know how pissed they get when females infiltrate.

The blackpill posits that there is a biologically determined reason for all human conduct, if you think people just 'vent to attain relief'. Relief from what? What does gaining relief entail, what is the point of putting in effort for relief, and why do people seek 'relief'? Such a postulate answers no biological questions and is bluepilled.

no offense but I find literally no point in tackling this since it should be common sense.

 

[GGWP]

venting as the biological organism's answer to stress
duh

What is stress? How does venting ameliorate this stress? Venting does ameliorate stress through...

The point of venting is to get people to listen to you by guilt-tripping them. You nudge them to spend time and resources on you by professing that you represent an instability.

Resources negate stress. Altruism is based on individuals reciprocating. By venting you propose a deal - that you need more attention and resources if people expect you to reciprocate. If done publicly this is a sociosexual strategy with the intent to garner sympathy. Incels vent on public platforms as a strategy to guilt trip and alarm women. In private they vent on similar principles, also to form coalitions, but ultimately to garner sympathy, and online you have no idea who is behind the avatar. You are rebuking this because you don't want to be associated with such strategies.

no offense but I find literally no point in tackling this since it should be common sense.

Common sense is bluepilled consensus, so you are telling me that you are bluepilled. This is not a cogent point at all if you are attempting to rebut me seriously. As for incels, Fantasea, I don't know why you are so ardently defending them. You are not even one of them, given that you were banned from the big forum for being a fakecel, so what would you possibly know about this? I think you are conflating 'neurotic dimorphic people' with 'incels' given that you are the former, you are unlikely to rationalize the cognition of an incel. On the other hand I'm a stone cold trucel that has been circulating around every part of the manosphere for years like a revenant with over 15k posts spanning several forums of the kind. We are not the same.

 

[Fantasea]

What is stress? How does venting ameliorate this stress? Venting does ameliorate stress through...

Resources negate stress. Altruism is based on individuals reciprocating. By venting you propose a deal - that you need more attention and resources if people expect you to reciprocate. If done publicly this is a sociosexual strategy with the intent to garner sympathy. Incels vent on public platforms as a strategy to guilt trip and alarm women. In private they vent on similar principles, also to form coalitions, but ultimately to garner sympathy, and online you have no idea who is behind the avatar. You are rebuking this because you don't want to be associated with such strategies.

I'll save this for later since we're going in circles and I'm a bit lazy rn.

As for incels, Fantasea, I don't know why you are so ardently defending them. You are not even one of them, given that you were banned from the big forum for being a fakecel, so what would you possibly know about this? I think you are conflating 'neurotic dimorphic people' with 'incels' given that you are the former, you are unlikely to rationalize the cognition of an incel. On the other hand I'm a stone cold trucel that has been circulating around every part of the manosphere for years like a revenant with over 15k posts spanning several forums of the kind. We are not the same.

there's no evidence that im a fakecel and horatio is a meme user.

 

[GGWP]

I'll save this for later since we're going in circles and I'm a bit lazy rn.

there's no evidence that im a fakecel and horatio is a meme user.

You are telling me that the Horatio Alger with a 99.99% WAIS IQ of ~155 with a father in the 99.99999% WAIS IQ range of ~175 is mistaken? Please show me your Prometheus Society membership for disproof sir.

 

[newsincerity]

You are telling me that the Horatio Alger with a 99.99% WAIS IQ of ~155 with a father in the 99.99999% WAIS IQ range of ~175 is mistaken? Please show me your Prometheus Society membership for disproof sir.

sounds like another backstabbing gatekeeping psychopath
incel users are famous for betraying their forum friends
maybe you can tell me what sort of evolutionary reproductive strategy that is

I guess it's a form of cucking your rivals and power projection
females do this too

 

[Myst]

Incel culture is indirect female worship

I feel like the craving for a romantic relationship is exaggerated and forced upon, the thousands down sides of relationships are severely downplayed while the few high moments are amplified and focused. What still baffles me is how incels STILL worship women despite being blackpilled, at least...

neets.net

No point in hating foids and no point in worshipping them either, they're fallible humans like us.

 

[GGWP]

sounds like another backstabbing gatekeeping psychopath
incel users are famous for betraying their forum friends
maybe you can tell me what sort of evolutionary reproductive strategy that is

I guess it's a form of cucking your rivals and power projection
females do this too

In-group purity elevates solidarity through shared goals. Greater reciprocity through solidarity of goals.

 

[newsincerity]

In-group purity elevates solidarity.

purity of the corrupt

 

[GGWP]

purity of the corrupt

You're right, trucels tend to be lolcows.

 

[Fantasea]

I don't really discuss my ban cuz it'd take a good paragraph to do so as most of it took place in my group chat (most active one atm titled Lake of Rot, more commonly known as ID Invaders that mods hijacked and started to add literal fags/troons to). I really am too lazy to explain in detail since I have no love for that site, and thus no reason to defend myself but essentially a janny or two didn't like me, wanted to usurp my group since theirs was dead, hardbanned me to censor me, and used a baseless fakecel accusation that the very intelligent and total non-NPC users on .is ate up in order to get rid of me. notice that nobody asks for evidence.

 

[Mentally Lost Cel]

High iq and based , my thoughts exactly

 

[LaserGunPewPew]

You can't negotiate attraction. Try to guilt trip your way into some panties and let me know how that works out for you. Although, I don't find evidence for the concept of the incel existing. Perhaps if you're Steven Hawking, where someone with his condition wouldn't be able to provide physically or even have sex in the first place without help.

"B-But Laser! Incels don't care about sex. They care about relationships!"

Then my point remains. I was in a BP chat recently where someone asked un-ironically if they're a fakecel because they turned down a single mother. And if you ask me, based on the facts, they are. It's not that you can't get a girlfriend. It's that you can't get one you're attracted to or believe you deserve.

TLDR: The OP is right. Stop being stupid.

 

[cosmicx16]

What is stress? How does venting ameliorate this stress? Venting does ameliorate stress through...

Resources negate stress. Altruism is based on individuals reciprocating. By venting you propose a deal - that you need more attention and resources if people expect you to reciprocate. If done publicly this is a sociosexual strategy with the intent to garner sympathy. Incels vent on public platforms as a strategy to guilt trip and alarm women. In private they vent on similar principles, also to form coalitions, but ultimately to garner sympathy, and online you have no idea who is behind the avatar. You are rebuking this because you don't want to be associated with such strategies.



Common sense is bluepilled consensus, so you are telling me that you are bluepilled. This is not a cogent point at all if you are attempting to rebut me seriously. As for incels, Fantasea, I don't know why you are so ardently defending them. You are not even one of them, given that you were banned from the big forum for being a fakecel, so what would you possibly know about this? I think you are conflating 'neurotic dimorphic people' with 'incels' given that you are the former, you are unlikely to rationalize the cognition of an incel. On the other hand I'm a stone cold trucel that has been circulating around every part of the manosphere for years like a revenant with over 15k posts spanning several forums of the kind. We are not the same.

Really summoned all your neet energy to kamehameha him.

 

[cosmicx16]

In-group purity elevates solidarity through shared goals. Greater reciprocity through solidarity of goals.

It doesn’t really feel so when the group itself is an undesired status.
I mean, for all the times people can claim to be proud of their celdom, it is either caused by frustration over the fully-realized inability to escape this state, or a big fat lie.