Personal Experience Holy shit! Who am I?

[JayJaySattva]

Guys, what's happening with me. I have been working on psychologically deconstructing my past. My experiences, and integrating back my projections. I swear, I don't know who I am.

The past seems unreal, like it never happened.

Who am I?

D @Foidkiller, any idea?

Maximum detachment must be obtained this way:

Śūnyatā - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This must be some sort of organic and unconscious process I guess. The mind has to drop the past, and the personal story to become super detached. It happens naturally...

 

[Apollo Tenzen]

Guys, what's happening with me. I have been working on psychologically deconstructing my past. My experiences, and integrating back my projections. I swear, I don't know who I am.

The past seems unreal, like it never happened.

Who am I?

D @Foidkiller, any idea?

How you did it?

 

[JayJaySattva]

How you did it?

Read about anima projection. Now, start analyzing to what kind of archetypes projected on women you are atracted towards, and identify what is it that makes it so desirable to you. Remember, it is not her, it is the psychological quality that you are projecting onto her what makes her desirable, archetypically of course.

 

[Apollo Tenzen]

Read about anima projection. Now, start analyzing to what kind of archetypes projected on women you are atracted towards, and identify what is it that makes it so desirable to you. Remember, it is not her, it is the psychological quality that you are projecting onto her what makes her desirable, archetypically of course.

Goths. Since forever, so its must come from my projection of the shadow self, the rocker rebel, that i am fusing in my 20's

 

[JayJaySattva]

Goths. Since forever

Read about shunyata:

Śūnyatā - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Read about non-duality. Start looking for the self... And so on. I mean there are lots and lots of practices. I suppose meditation should speed the process.

 

[Budan]

Guys, what's happening with me. I have been working on psychologically deconstructing my past. My experiences, and integrating back my projections. I swear, I don't know who I am.

The past seems unreal, like it never happened.

Who am I?

D @Foidkiller, any idea?

Maximum detachment must be obtained this way:

Śūnyatā - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This must be some sort of organic and unconscious process I guess. The mind has to drop the past, and the personal story to become super detached. It happens naturally...

You'll realize in the future that this is all a cope. Hell I bet that Michael W Ford guy realized there's no such thing as magick and stopped coping with it

 

[JayJaySattva]

You'll realize in the future that this is all a cope. Hell I bet that Michael W Ford guy realized there's no such thing as magick and stopped coping with it

Huh? How come? This is psychology we are talking about. There are really benefits to doing this that I have been feeling in myself.

I haven't even talked about magick, metaphysics or something like that. This is all about the human mind. Plus, the "emptyness" buddhists talk about is related to the unconscious tendencies of the mind to solidy phenomena into permanent, independent things. It is something that belongs to the psychological realm, a matter related to the way we perceive the phenomena of the physical world.

Are you sure you are not projecting your own frustrations with magick onto me?

 

[Budan]

Huh? How come? This is psychology we are talking about. There are really benefits to doing this that I have been feeling in myself.

I haven't even talked about magick, metaphysics or something like that. This is all about the human mind. Plus, the "emptyness" buddhists talk about is related to the unconscious tendencies of the mind to solidy phenomena into permanent, independent things. It is something that belongs to the psychological realm, a matter related to the way we perceive the phenomena of the physical world.

You can't prove to me that this rise of new age spirituality on the internet isn't just a way to cope by dissociating with the world turning to shit and not having your desires fulfilled.

Are you sure you are not projecting your own frustrations with magick onto me?

I never bothered to do it as I knew it has no base in reality lol

 

[JayJaySattva]

You can't prove to me that this rise of new age spirituality on the internet isn't just a way to cope by dissociating with the world turning to shit

I say that it is the opposite. It helps you to be a more compassionate being towards others and contribute to the world in a more integrated way.

and not having your desires fulfilled.

If you are operating on a hyper-reductionistic framework related to making everything about survival and reproduction, then of course, no wonder you all will be unfulfilled.

I never bothered to do it as I knew it has no base in reality lol

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[Budan]

It helps you to be a more compassionate being towards others and contribute to the world in a more integrated way.

Most people would walk over you in the street without a second thought, take a look at how the people that contributed to society got treated by it like Tesla.

If you are operating on a hyper-reductionistic framework related to making everything about survival and reproduction, then of course, no wonder you all will be unfulfilled.

That's the game of life though, you can either work towards your desires and goals or die with regret.

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You're meditating every time you go to sleep, of course it's good for your mental health.

 

[JayJaySattva]

Most people would walk over you in the street without a second thought, take a look at how the people that contributed to society got treated by it like Tesla.

It is better to be whole than "good". Compassion is not enough, you also need wisdom obviously. If you are naive and idealistic in regards to human nature as Tesla was, then no wonder those things happened to him.

I mean, if you just want an excuse to treat others like shit because they are doing it between themselves, then go ahead. It seems as if you are looking to me for approval to do "bad".

 

[newsincerity]

It is better to be whole than "good". Compassion is not enough, you also need wisdom obviously.

What is wholeness

 

[JayJaySattva]

What is wholeness

Psychological wholeness. Making conscious the unconscious. For example, if someone criticizes others for doing "good" under the excuse that "Most people would walk over you in the street without a second thought", then it might be possible that he himself wants to walk over others in the street without a second thought. It is just that he's repressing himself of doing exactly that. Perhaps it is slave morality what prevents him from truly showing his true self.

 

[Budan]

Psychological wholeness. Making conscious the unconscious. For example, if someone criticizes others for doing "good" under the excuse that "Most people would walk over you in the street without a second thought", then it might be possible that he himself wants to walk over others in the street without a second thought. It is just that he's repressing himself of doing exactly that. Perhaps it is slave morality what prevents him from truly showing his true self.

Wow you got every single thing about me wrong. How did you come to the conclusion I have slave morality when it's the exact opposite of that lol

 

[newsincerity]

Psychological wholeness. Making conscious the unconscious. For example, if someone criticizes others for doing "good" under the excuse that "Most people would walk over you in the street without a second thought", then it might be possible that he himself wants to walk over others in the street without a second thought. It is just that he's repressing himself of doing exactly that. Perhaps it is slave morality what prevents him from truly showing his true self.

my first thought is that mind examination leads to mind playing games with itself and you can be above and beyond that if you are sincere
in the end it's all about following your will and insincere imitation out of recommendation will lead to poor result
your desire can be to be free of the mind
Im only saying because you recommend to people
truth seems to be that a human is where he is and no premade solutions are necessary only intent and others can't give intent

 

[JayJaySattva]

Wow you got every single thing about me wrong. How did you come to the conclusion I have slave morality when it's the exact opposite of that lol

Just tryna spark debate lol.

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I am autistically deconstructing myself for the sake of it. You are all my mirrors into my triggers. That's all.

 

[JayJaySattva]

my first thought is that mind examination leads to mind playing games with itself and you can be above and beyond that if you are sincere
in the end it's all about following your will and insincere imitation out of recommendation will lead to poor result
your desire can be to be free of the mind
Im only saying because you recommend to people
truth seems to be that a human is where he is and no premade solutions are necessary only intent and others can't give intent

Sometimes when you try to reduce neuroticism, you end up more neurotic.

It is the mind the one who desires to be free of the mind.

 

[newsincerity]

It is the mind the one who desires to be free of the mind.

You can say everything is the mind because it's all you know
doesn't mean there is no real part of you that can't be fooled by psychological tricks

 

[JayJaySattva]

You can say everything is the mind because it's all you know
doesn't mean there is no real part of you that can't be fooled by psychological tricks

Which psychological tricks?

Are you mean to say that there is part of me that knows all of this to be bullshit? If so, I agree it is all bullshit. There are only perspectives in life, I just decided to choose those I get most benefited from in regards to psychological suffering.

I just see the mind to me a very malleable thing.

I just hope times passes quickly and drop dead after dedicating my life to what fulfills the most. Not interested in children or women, as I am very sympathetic towards antinatalism and philosophical pessimism. So, as reality presents itself as something that is disturbing the peace of nothingness, I try to employ methods of ego reduction to become more and more freer of desires.

 

[newsincerity]

Which psychological tricks?

all of psychology for a start

Are you mean to say that there is part of me that knows all of this to be bullshit? If so, I agree it is all bullshit. There are only perspectives in life, I just decided to choose those I get most benefited from in regards to psychological suffering.

I just see the mind to me a very malleable thing.

I understand but I think you said it yourself
how can the mind be reliable in deciding what's most beneficial for you?
It all leads to nihilism in the end this self-denial

 

[JayJaySattva]

all of psychology for a start

Well, if it weren't for psychology I would be worse now. So I measure things in regards to their capacity to reduce suffering.

I understand but I think you said it yourself
how can the mind be reliable in deciding what's most beneficial for you?
It all leads to nihilism in the end

Easy. If it reduces suffering, it is useful.

If the "I" that needs meaning dissolves, there will be no need for meaning. It all revolves around identity.

 

[newsincerity]

Well, if it weren't for psychology I would be worse now. So I measure things in regards to their capacity to reduce suffering.

Easy. If it reduces suffering, it is useful.

If the "I" that needs meaning dissolves, there will be no need for meaning. It all revolves around identity.

so you're aware that it's an arbitrary judgement by the mind
if you saw mind as a part and not the whole you would have to admit that you don't know what's the most beneficial for you
it's all matter of perspective you're right

 

[Budan]

Well, if it weren't for psychology I would be worse now. So I measure things in regards to their capacity to reduce suffering.

Easy. If it reduces suffering, it is useful.

If the "I" that needs meaning dissolves, there will be no need for meaning. It all revolves around identity.

You're no better hedonist than me

 

[JayJaySattva]

You're no better hedonist than me

Yes. I have been inducing altered states of consciousness where it gives me the impression that all we are is just consciousness playing a character.

Do you know why the character doesn't allow himself to surrender fully and see the illusion of self?

Because contractions start appearing in my body.

"I want riches, I want lots of women".

Interesting you see...

This is more material to work on, anyways. This is fun.

 

[ZZEBRA813]

"I want riches, I want lots of women".