Venting Had a "mini ego death" after meditation. No drugs. It felt a lil bad to be honest.

[jayjay]

Today while meditating I felt what felt like several voices speaking in my head. I guess in this case it would be more appropriate to say that instead of voices, it could surely be the same voice, but speaking in terms of different emotions. There was Fear speaking, there was another one giving advice, and those are the ones I remember. Later, after I had stopped meditating, Motivation said that I should not let life beat me. It is as if one is not really the architect of one's thoughts, as if the emotions do the thinking for one.

The question “What am I?” came up. If I wasn't those voices, then who was I?, am I nothing?, “I” never existed? My body began to contort, and I felt weird. It wasn't pleasureable to be honest, but I did not feel any sadness nonetheless.

 

[jayjay]

@SergeantAutist @Tabula Rasa

 

[fatcel_3000]

ego death is a meme and people who brag about it usually got it through brain damage

if you drill a hole into someone's Wernicke's area and have them sit down they'll think they're one with their clothes, the chair, the floor, with you, the whole room and the universe.

that being said those voices aren't you. They're either entities or trauma-induced dissassociative fragments of yourself

 

[jayjay]

ego death is a meme and people who brag about it usually got it through brain damage

if you drill a hole into someone's Wernicke's area and have them sit down they'll think they're one with their clothes, the chair, the floor, with you, the whole room and the universe.

that being said those voices aren't you. They're either entities or trauma-induced dissassociative fragments of yourself

Interesting perspective.

 

[jayjay]

if you drill a hole into someone's Wernicke's area and have them sit down they'll think they're one with their clothes, the chair, the floor, with you, the whole room and the universe.

Aren't we all? I'm just saying...

 

[jayjay]

that being said those voices aren't you. They're either entities or trauma-induced dissassociative fragments of yourself

Yes, they are a recollection of all the information adquired in order to defend myself from the trauma caused by an illness.

 

[Raul and the Kings Of Lame]

Today while meditating I felt what felt like several voices speaking in my head. I guess in this case it would be more appropriate to say that instead of voices, it could surely be the same voice, but speaking in terms of different emotions. There was Fear speaking, there was another one giving advice, and those are the ones I remember. Later, after I had stopped meditating, Motivation said that I should not let life beat me. It is as if one is not really the architect of one's thoughts, as if the emotions do the thinking for one.

The question “What am I?” came up. If I wasn't those voices, then who was I?, am I nothing?, “I” never existed? My body began to contort, and I felt weird. It wasn't pleasureable to be honest, but I did not feel any sadness nonetheless.

Schizophrenia ? Existential Crisis ?

 

[jayjay]

Schizophrenia ? Existential Crisis ?

 

[Raul and the Kings Of Lame]

What about other people outside of myself are they an illusion as well ?

 

[jayjay]

What about other people outside of myself are they an illusion as well ?

It is not like that. It is about "you" as a center of experience. There is no center of experience within the body. It is simply that, how come can you have free will? How come can you be outside of the flow of causal events? In that sense you are an illusory psychological construct. How can you believe that you are an inherent identity with inherent likes and dislikes?

You are a convergence of infinite causes and conditions. You were never separate and never will be.

 

[Raul and the Kings Of Lame]

It is not like that. It is about "you" as a center of experience. There is no center of experience within the body. It is simply that, how come can you have free will? How come can you be outside of the flow of causal events? In that sense you are an illusory psychological construct. How can you believe that you are an inherent identity with inherent likes and dislikes?

You are a convergence of infinite causes and conditions. You were never separate and never will be.

Separate from what ? Seriously this is nonsense I exist.

 

[jayjay]

Separate from what ? Seriously this is nonsense I exist.

Warning: this doesn't involve anything metaphysical. It is just neuroscience and psychoanalysis, even though some claim that psychoanalysis is not science per se.

The thing is that the "I" as a psychological construct of language is a very poor thing to capture your lived experience as a human being. It is way more complex, but the thing is that at the relative level we have to use all of those concepts to navigate daily life.

Personal Experience - Illusion of permanent self. Very painful experience.

I was listening to songs and in a very subtle moment I began to see how identity is something that is fabricated from instant to instant giving the illusion of a permanent being that is not really there. It was one of the most brutal experiences I've ever had because it felt like witnessing your...

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