Spirituality Transcending matter

[Depresso]

We all know that existence is beyond matter. What else is out there?

 

[Depresso]

This is from the other threadd to start us off.

Serious - Under which conditions would you have a son? When would you say no?

This question is for everyone but some understanding of the blackpill is required. Under which conditions would you have a son? This includes neighbourhood, salary, assets and any other conditions. Assume he's going to turn out average, between 4 and 7.

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You dont have father and son in the causal plane, the genealogies of the gods were only created in order to sell the myths to the peasants. The idea of continuity by blood only have importance in a realm filled with entropy.

Did you mean in the acausal plane? In the causal realm, pretty much everything has a cause.

True, but the acausal don't touch the material and liminal directly, it needs the causal to make a bridge to it. That's why there are archetypes.
In this case, the cause is your determination for a exit.

I'm not a buddhist.
I think buddhism is in error, because when you aim for absolute nihilistic emptiness, you are aiming for the highest of the high, which is pure random chaos. From there you fall back into the material realm, like in the flight of Icarus.
You need to aim for the middle realm. Your soul would become a island in the acausal sea, you would be living there with a causal body. The island would be isolated from the causal structures of the omniverse, hence being prevented from being recycled. That's where the gods live, the blessed islands of greek myth.

You see the highest high as pure random chaos, so I'm guessing it gets more chaotic as you transcend? Where does all this come from?

Absolute emptiness is where absolute chaos is.
You can check most mythologies, they all start with chaos. A empty void that gives origin to everything, all the time. I see it as a transitory state. So you fly there, you meet absolute boredom and get engulfed by being, being pulled back to down below. That's why you need to create new forms. And these are not eternal, only the soul is.

 

[porco-dddio]

What do you gain after you transcend matter? Cant you just wait till youre dead instead of skipping levels?

IDK, sounds like inserting cheatcodes in supermario instead of finishing the level. whats the point.

 

[Depresso]

What do you gain after you transcend matter? Cant you just wait till youre dead instead of skipping levels?

IDK, sounds like inserting cheatcodes in supermario instead of finishing the level. whats the point.

You went a bit too fast bro, slow down a little. The question is about what other transcendent dimensions exist.

Do you think the afterlife is transcendent and why?

 

[Depresso]

@Wolfstorm When you said this

I think buddhism is in error, because when you aim for absolute nihilistic emptiness, you are aiming for the highest of the high, which is pure random chaos. From there you fall back into the material realm, like in the flight of Icarus.

Did you mean that the after life the soul always moves to the acausal plane?

Why is highest of the high pure chaos? Where is this from?

 

[Wolfstorm]

@Wolfstorm When you said this

Did you mean that the after life the soul always moves to the acausal plane?

Why is highest of the high pure chaos? Where is this from?

I dont think so. Most souls are npcs and they go to the liminal plane, where they are recycled into light after some decades.
We say coloquially that npcs are souless, but everything has some degree of consciousness, even inanimate objects. We simply can't see it. A rock, for instance, is to the Earth what dandruff is to us.

 

[Depresso]

I dont think so. Most souls are npcs and they go to the liminal plane, where they are recycled into light after some decades.
We say coloquially that npcs are souless, but everything has some degree of consciousness, even inanimate objects. We simply can't see it. A rock, for instance, is to the Earth what dandruff is to us.

You didn't cite your sources? I want the schools and philosophers, the big picture.

 

[Wolfstorm]

You didn't cite your sources?

 

[porco-dddio]

You went a bit too fast bro, slow down a little. The question is about what other transcendent dimensions exist.

Do you think the afterlife is transcendent and why?

I dont know. It seems to me this "spiritual" stuff is premature.

You get to discover anyway, at some point. Maybe when you die, you see whats up with the afterlife if theres any or if there isnt then you find out eventually.

So why being in a hurry?

 

[Depresso]

I dont know. It seems to me this "spiritual" stuff is premature.

You get to discover anyway, at some point. Maybe when you die, you see whats up with the afterlife if theres any or if there isnt then you find out eventually.

So why being in a hurry?

Not all transcendents are after death. Where does the triangle live?

 

[porco-dddio]

Not all transcendents are after death. Where does the triangle live?

geometry, i think its an abstract shape

 

[Wolfstorm]

Not all transcendents are after death. Where does the triangle live?

The acausal. A triangle does not need a cause to exist. It is essential numen.

 

[Depresso]

The acausal. A triangle does not need a cause to exist. It is essential numen.

You said that the highest of the high is pure chaos, how is the acausal chaotic and also hold abstract things triangles?

 

[Wolfstorm]

You said that the highest of the high is pure chaos, how is the acausal chaotic and also hold abstract things triangles?

Yes.

 

[Depresso]

How does the acausal relate to the astral?