Discussion Adverse Childhood Experiences

[GGWP]

The black-pill, in my opinion, is a magnet for abused, battered folk. Abused dogs - is what people in this sphere repeatedly term themselves - and so from what I have observed 'incel' and 'abused dog' tend to go hand in hand. In my opinion, this is the main discrepancy between the online blackpill and the real world, where you will see 'ugly' men perfectly able to have flourishing lives, healthy relationships and satisfying hobbies; there is a dysfunction somewhere in the modern incel, who may not always be hideously ugly but all the while cannot sustain healthy coping mechanisms or relationships with others. Many people will chalk it up to the blackpill being a hive of autistics, but actually I suspect it's more sinister than that, because those who have endured 'complex trauma' have brain adaptations almost identical to those with autism, leading to a large conflation of the two diagnoses, as CPTSD and autism are functionally indistinguishable. Could it be that 21st century circumstances have something unique about them that predispose one to advanced trauma and social defeat that might mirror autism? Could this be why there is such an abberant, meteoric rise in autism diagnosis in the 21st century? I will let you be the judge.

Regardless, blackpill spaces are plagued with tales of bitterly traumatic, unfair experiences. A high frequency of ACEs can be observed, perenially.
An ACE (Adverse Childhood Experience) are circumstances that one experiences as a child which may be potentially traumatic. The following 10 ACEs are commonly used to assess complex trauma in an individual.

In a 2014 UK study on ACEs, 47% of people experienced at least one ACE with 9% of the population having 4+ ACES.

Without adequate support, ACEs can result in toxic stress, which occurs when a child or young person experiences strong, frequent and/or prolonged childhood adversities such as those listed above. In their book Lessons Will Be Learned: Transforming Safeguarding in Education, Martin Baker and Mike Glanville (co-founders of The Safeguarding Company) cite research conducted by Public Health Wales, in which they discovered that people who reported experiencing more than four ACEs during their childhood (before the age of 18) have, subsequently, suffered as adults and were:

• 3 times more likely to suffer from heart disease, respiratory disease or type 2 diabetes
• 4 times more likely to be a heavy drinker
• 6 times more likely to never or rarely feel optimistic
• 14 times more likely to be a victim of violence (2015)
• 15 times more likely to commit violence
• 16 times more likely to use cocaine or heroin
• 20 times more likely to go to prison

For those who have six or more ACEs, the statistics get even bleaker with adults being 14 times more likely to attempt suicide.
For children, ACEs can impact their physical and mental health and development and can often be barriers for forming healthy attachments. 1 in 3 diagnosed mental health conditions in adulthood directly relate to ACEs, and other effects of ACEs in children can include:

• An increased risk of mental health difficulties
• An increased risk of developing violent behaviour or becoming a victim of violence
• An increase in the risk of mental health problems, such as anxiety, depression, and post-traumatic stress disorder
• Difficulties in the ability to recognise and manage different emotions
• Difficulties in making and keeping healthy friendships and relationships
• Struggling to manage behaviour in school, which can then lead to difficulties in managing behaviour in professional settings

Adverse Childhood Experiences: What are ACEs and how do they Affect Children, Young People and Adults? | Tes

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ACEs are significantly correlated with decreased ability to form relationships and function as a normal human would.
It is actually quite mind-boggling to me that over half of the population have never experienced any of these things, I suppose this explains the gulf between the behaviour of the average 'normie' and people who frequent blackpill spaces. I am wondering how many ACEs you fellows have endured and whether it would be significantly higher than that of the average of the population (which seems to be ~1). I will make the poll anonymous to encourage honesty and integrity.

 

[Tabula Rasa]

If a negative environment induces a negative state of mind, then it stands to reason also that a positive environment will lead to a positive state of mind.

 

[Deleted member 258]

Being a parent is the most important job in the world.

One has to contextualize their struggles in life within the entire scope of their childhood experience. It isn't fair to expect people to empathize with you, to attempt to hold you to a fair enough standard regarding your mistakes and shortcomings, because, it goes without saying, that nobody will ever have the level of context for what you've seen and felt in your formative years that you do.

However, the crucial lesson to extract from all of this is that one should be willing to maintain a certain degree of compassion for oneself. We're our own worst critics, and I see this proven constantly with young men in particular.

In general, boys aren't raised with the same carefulness that girls are, despite arguably requiring more. My impression is that boys are sort of just left to themselves (I implore you to examine your own experiences for proof of this). Society expects more from men but collectively leaves them out to dry during their most crucial developmental years, under the assumption--whether it's a conscious one or not--that they'll just figure things out. Throw some abuse into the mix for the hell of it, and you have a mess of an individual who is nowhere near ready for a world that supposedly belongs to him, emotional, albeit filled with potential, but nevertheless frozen, paralyzed, to do anything.

All of that being said, I still fundamentally think it's a good thing that men ought not to expect any help with their suffering. Life is a brutal reality, but finding meaning, and more importantly, strength, within it all catalyzes a rich, insightful, and tenacious existence that one should be grateful for, a situation which is far more valuable than the kinds of "perfect" circumstances that people whine about not being able to experience, and to which people attribute all of their problems.

My point is that, no matter what, young men ought to hold themselves to a fair standard, which entails admitting shortcomings as well as strengths, in light of what they've been through. Sitting around allowing oneself to decay in passivity, in self-hatred, is a privilege, and if one is to adopt this pathway, one absolves themselves of the right to complain, beyond a certain extent.