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This guy says once MAGA is done embarrassing tself, it has to be eradicated. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/paul-krugman-post-donald-trump_n_6a1d37aae4b0ba317300ae93

He calls it " deMAGAfication" and perhaps is the first good idea I heard from him. I wouldnt disagree, even if is coming from a guy like him.

Is it even possible? I think, yeah maybe. Seems hard but its totally possible, its in the cards, this idea isnt in contrast with conspiracy theories. Because MAGA responds to the logic of false opposites. So the dumbified people became MAGA followers, led by the desire to oppose imaginary enemies like SJWs and tranies. SJW and tranies were victims, they didnt do shit to deserve the hate.

MAGA became the villain, they began to charge with sins and social evils.

Once you kill the goat, the sins disappear, and the "chosen people" get to be saved, scapegoating it all on MAGA, which would totally work. So the idea can totally be real, especially if is coming from that guy paul.

I do think the tards have to be removed from civil society, or they remove us, this is the only reason I agree with paul, otherwise I would disagree automatically.

Regardless, MAGA deserves to be humiliated. So I hope they get some massive deMAGAfication
 
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This guy says once MAGA is done embarrassing tself, it has to be eradicated. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/paul-krugman-post-donald-trump_n_6a1d37aae4b0ba317300ae93

He calls it " deMAGAfication" and perhaps is the first good idea I heard from him. I wouldnt disagree, even if is coming from a guy like him.

Is it even possible? I think, yeah maybe. Seems hard but its totally possible, its in the cards, this idea isnt in contrast with conspiracy theories. Because MAGA responds to the logic of false opposites. So the dumbified people became MAGA followers, led by the desire to oppose imaginary enemies like SJWs and tranies. SJW and tranies were victims, they didnt do shit to deserve the hate.

MAGA became the villain, they began to charge with sins and social evils.

Once you kill the goat, the sins disappear, and the "chosen people" get to be saved, scapegoating it all on MAGA, which would totally work. So the idea can totally be real, especially if is coming from that guy paul.

I do think the tards have to be removed from civil society, or they remove us, this is the only reason I agree with paul, otherwise I would disagree automatically.

Regardless, MAGA deserves to be humiliated. So I hope they get some massive deMAGAfication
when did you start reading huffpo?
 
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when did you start reading huffpo?
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Just one of the first Google searches when it comes to the concept of removing MAGA from a culture.

I'm interested, because in EU we got the task of doing the same, removing all the MAGA traitors.

There's a lot of these traitors like rassemblement national, AFD, Meloni, so on.

MAGA should never happen again, we already lived the degrading experience once.
 
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Just one of the first Google searches when it comes to the concept of removing MAGA from a culture.

I'm interested, because in EU we got the task of doing the same, removing all the MAGA traitors.

There's a lot of these traitors like rassemblement national, AFD, Meloni, so on.

MAGA should never happen again, we already lived the degrading experience once.
They should focus on get rid of the whatever the fuck the marxists are calling themselves at the moment. (Nazis, commies, socialists, etc. They change every 10-15 years.) Tired of having to hear these brownshirts act like their for the people and all, but as soon as they get power basically go full tyrant but it good when they do it, attacking anyone that calls him out.
 
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They should focus on get rid of the whatever the fuck the marxists are calling themselves at the moment. (Nazis, commies, socialists, etc. They change every 10-15 years.) Tired of having to hear these brownshirts act like their for the people and all, but as soon as they get power basically go full tyrant but it good when they do it, attacking anyone that calls him out.
De-marxify is even more possible and realistic, because the introduction of marxism is as artificial as nazism was.

MAGA instead is an organic interpretation of people moods and vibes and feels, which is why the concept of deMAGAfication fascinates me, I wonder how it will be interpreted, and it may even be horrible.
 
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it may even be horrible.

The elites wanted a horrible... demagafication before maga existed. The closest they had was libertarians and tea partyers for so long. Not enough people to show america whos boss.

now theres really a large enough group to crush and it will really strike fear but whats the point? To show china that they are their best goys?
 
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The elites wanted a horrible... demagafication before maga existed. The closest they had was libertarians and tea partyers for so long. Not enough people to show america whos boss.

now theres really a large enough group to crush and it will really strike fear but whats the point? To show china that they are their best goys?
Hi I dont know what to reply. I mean the hippies made 2+2 years ago, it didnt take much to notice trump is an elite and all you gotta do is take a peek at people who support and fund him or people who constructed his fake mythology.

So the hippies done 2+2= trump is a liar elite. And its very easy to do, and you dont even have to be against elites. For instance im not against elites, one thing that illuminated my path was elite theory, and I dont have really that fervor where I pretend to be anti-elite. Im not anti elite, it simply doesnt take a genius to see trump slogans are empty platitudes. Why you characterize MAGA as "anti elite" in light of all the events happened including epstein island?
 
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Hi I dont know what to reply. I mean the hippies made 2+2 years ago, it didnt take much to notice trump is an elite and all you gotta do is take a peek at people who support and fund him or people who constructed his fake mythology.

So the hippies done 2+2= trump is a liar elite. And its very easy to do, and you dont even have to be against elites. For instance im not against elites, one thing that illuminated my path was elite theory, and I dont have really that fervor where I pretend to be anti-elite. Im not anti elite, it simply doesnt take a genius to see trump slogans are empty platitudes. Why you characterize MAGA as "anti elite" in light of all the events happened including epstein island?
Democrats hold tighter institutional grip on traditional elite networks and parts of finance through credentialed staffing, regulatory complexity, and past donation tilts.


Securities and investment industry gave [imath]280 million to Democrats/liberal groups versus[/imath]212 million to Republicans/conservatives in the 2023-2024 cycle. Finance, insurance, and real estate sectors have shown similar or stronger Democratic leans in multiple prior cycles, including 63-37 congressional split in 2018. Big finance profits from the dense rulebook Democrats expand—compliance costs and lobbying favor incumbents who already sit inside the system.


Democrats also dominate the credentialed cultural and administrative layers: Ivy League pipelines, legacy media, entertainment, NGOs, and federal bureaucracy overwhelmingly staff and fund their side. This creates revolving doors and policy that rewards managed globalism, financialization, and social engineering over raw production.


Trump-aligned elites are rarer because most of them broke ranks from that consensus.


In 2024, billionaires and families directed roughly [imath]1.36 billion to Republicans versus[/imath]413 million to Democrats—a 75-25 split favoring Trump. Elon Musk alone dropped over $290 million into Trump-aligned efforts, the largest single donor by far. Tech figures who had long backed Democrats—Zuckerberg, Bezos, Pichai—shifted: inaugural donations, policy changes at their companies, and public alignment after clashing with Biden-era regulators and speech controls.


These Trump elites stand out as disruptors—self-made builders in tech, energy, and finance who treat the administrative state as a growth-killing obstacle rather than a partner. Traditional Wall Street and coastal elites largely treated Trump as radioactive until policy pain and election results forced recalibration. The ones who moved early or hard are the exception, not the rule.


Both parties court money. Democrats captured more of the old institutional and regulatory elite for years; Trump pulled a visible slice of the productive, anti-consensus slice in 2024 when the costs of the prior setup became obvious. Money follows whoever holds power and writes rules that match self-interest.
 
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Hi your message seemed to reintroduce the logic of false opposites where you try to introduce "but democrats did worse" type of analysis.

But I was asking, in light of all what happened, why you keep believe in the mythology that trump is against elites or there is also a second variation which would be that trump is a counter-elite.

I also ask a second question, why you think MAGA cultural revolution is working despite they only occupy the media? I mean, usually, first priority would be occupy the university, and tribunals and form militias and so on. Why is MAGA succeeding even if they only use the media?

I got my own speculative hypothesis as to why, but lets hear yours.
 
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Hi your message seemed to reintroduce the logic of false opposites where you try to introduce "but democrats did worse" type of analysis.

But I was asking, in light of all what happened, why you keep believe in the mythology that trump is against elites or there is also a second variation which would be that trump is a counter-elite.

I also ask a second question, why you think MAGA cultural revolution is working despite they only occupy the media? I mean, usually, first priority would be occupy the university, and tribunals and form militias and so on. Why is MAGA succeeding even if they only use the media?

I got my own speculative hypothesis as to why, but lets hear yours.
who are the elite to watch?
Maybe its blackrock. They have more money than anything
They orchistrated the DEI for initiatives for corperations.
The the Trump Assassin was a literal employee of blackrock
 
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why you think MAGA cultural revolution is working despite they only occupy the media? I mean, usually, first priority would be occupy the university, and tribunals and form militias and so on. Why is MAGA succeeding even if they only use the media?
The Maoist cultural revolution analogy doesn't fit because MAGA isn't a vanguard minority seizing total state power through violence and purges—it's a populist electoral backlash using available democratic and technological levers against overreach that already lost public consent.


Legacy institutions (universities, legacy media, federal bureaucracy) leaned hard left for decades via the "long march," enforcing DEI, gender ideology in schools/sports, and lax enforcement on borders/crime. That produced visible backlash: inflation, record encounters, youth mental health spikes tied to rapid transitions, and fairness erosion in women's sports. Voters noticed through direct experience and alternative information flows. Elections delivered the mandate; policy execution followed.


Why media (new media) punches above its weight here​


Legacy media trust hit a record low of 28% in 2025 Gallup data, down from 40% five years prior. National news organizations sit at 56% trust per Pew, with sharp drops across parties. Independent and online voices now lead trust at 34% versus 12% for national outlets. X under Musk amplified primary data, videos of policy failures, and dissenting experts that legacy outlets downplayed or framed as fringe. This bypassed gatekeepers and accelerated narrative correction on immigration numbers, urban crime trends, and school policies—issues where public tolerance collapsed faster than institutions could adapt.


Podcasts and direct platforms reached working-class and younger audiences traditional media lost. 2024 results reflected that information shift more than old broadcast dominance.


Not "only media"—executive and funding levers deliver faster results​


Trump's second term hit DEI and Title IX immediately via executive orders ending race/sex preferences in federal contracting and agencies, with universities on notice for losing federal grants and loans if non-compliant. Investigations launched into specific campuses, funding pauses hit places like Harvard ($2.2B frozen in one case), and pressure produced resignations and policy retreats at UVA and elsewhere. Title IX enforcement on women's sports moved from rhetoric to probes and resolutions.


This is targeted administrative rollback, not campus occupation. Universities change slowly due to tenure and endowments, but external money pressure and civil rights enforcement bite without Red Guard tactics. Red states already moved on K-12 curricula and sports; federal leverage scales it.


No need for militias or revolutionary tribunals—that route destroys legitimacy and invites counter-crackdowns. Rule-of-law approach uses DOJ, ICE, courts, and legislation. Tribunals imply politicized show trials; enforcement targets violations of existing statutes instead.


Measurable cultural traction without full institutional capture​


Public opinion shifted on flashpoints:


  • Two-thirds of Americans now favor birth-sex teams in sports and birth sex on IDs (Gallup 2025).
  • Support for trans medical interventions and protections declined since 2022; morality acceptance of gender transition fell toward 40%.
  • Broader LGBTQ cultural momentum stalled or reversed on same-sex marriage acceptance and related issues.

These moved via exposure of excesses (biological males in girls' sports, school secrecy policies, detransition stories) amplified outside legacy channels, plus policy signals from the election. Trans issues rank near-zero as voter priority now.


Universities remain left-leaning, but federal funding threats and post-SFFA legal environment constrain the worst practices without "occupying" them. Corporate DEI retreats predated 2025 and accelerated under scrutiny.


Why this path works better than historical revolutionary playbooks​


Past cultural revolutions required total capture and coercion because they imposed minority ideology against majority traditions and economics. MAGA draws from majority frustration with elite consensus that ignored trade-offs on borders, merit, family formation, and child safeguarding. Technology broke the old information monopoly, making media (especially open platforms) a high-leverage first strike. Elections and executive power then convert sentiment into rules faster than campus purges ever could.


The prior side overreached on rapid social engineering; backlash + information democratization produced correction without needing to mirror their institutional seizure tactics. Full "occupation" of every node isn't required when the administrative state and funding spigots respond to whoever holds the elected branches. Policy results and lived outcomes (safer streets, clearer sports categories, reduced federal DEI mandates) compound the media effect.
 
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Why this path works better than historical revolutionary playbooks​


Past cultural revolutions required total capture and coercion because they imposed minority ideology against majority traditions and economics. MAGA draws from majority frustration with elite consensus that ignored trade-offs on borders, merit, family formation, and child safeguarding. Technology broke the old information monopoly, making media (especially open platforms) a high-leverage first strike. Elections and executive power then convert sentiment into rules faster than campus purges ever could.
Sorry if just reply to this for now. I was compiling list of elites for your other request.

Since you reveal this is your belief. I tell you mine. I think MAGA works because low birthrate. Its my speculation.

If you just brainwash people on dissidoid media, they arent reproducing, so there is no new people to replace them, so if you only focus on the media it works. If there were younger people alive, the effects of MAGA could be undone. But theres no youth, and the elderly is superior in power and numbers.

The few youth alive are easy to stomp. So they dont matter. Which is why it cannot be organized a resistance against MAGA, not without tackling the issue of natality crysis first. We are stuck with MAGA so long the people who believe in it are a live, which is gona be a long ass time.
 
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Sorry if just reply to this for now. I was compiling list of elites for your other request.

Since you reveal this is your belief. I tell you mine. I think MAGA works because low birthrate. Its my speculation.

If you just brainwash people on dissidoid media, they arent reproducing, so there is no new people to replace them, so if you only focus on the media it works. If there were younger people alive, the effects of MAGA could be undone. But theres no youth, and the elderly is superior in power and numbers.

The few youth alive are easy to stomp. So they dont matter. Which is why it cannot be organized a resistance against MAGA, not without tackling the issue of natality crysis first. We are stuck with MAGA so long the people who believe in it are a live, which is gona be a long ass time.
While I think its very likely that Trump is not on the peoples side end of the day

You really running on. MAGA controls the media and it only works because the media does not need to influence as many people if they were reproducing more younger generations to who whom you hold distain?
 
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While I think its very likely that Trump is not on the peoples side end of the day

You really running on. MAGA controls the media and it only works because the media does not need to influence as many people if they were reproducing more younger generations to who whom you hold distain?
was simply observing removing MAGA is possible, but not easy, due to circumstances where we dont have the numbers.

So this is the reason why im curious abotu this concept of deMAGAfication, because that guy paul isnt a friendly person. Wonder what sort of malevolent plan he has in mind.
 
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was simply observing removing MAGA is possible, but not easy, due to circumstances where we dont have the numbers.

So this is the reason why im curious abotu this concept of deMAGAfication, because that guy paul isnt a friendly person. Wonder what sort of malevolent plan he has in mind.
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De-marxify is even more possible and realistic, because the introduction of marxism is as artificial as nazism was.

MAGA instead is an organic interpretation of people moods and vibes and feels, which is why the concept of deMAGAfication fascinates me, I wonder how it will be interpreted, and it may even be horrible.
You can't stop MAGA like you can marxists and a lot of leftist groups. As they require the government to cover for them and force their views for people to care about it. MAGA is counter to such groups and the reply when said groups cross a line to the point the normies even notice and start waking the fuck up. The problem was pre-2010s, the bread and circuses were good enough to keep people from look far. However, after Obama basically pull the classic leftist I am here for you and then as soon as he gets in shuts the door and listens to his donorers and master. He piss off a bunch of people, hints why he ended up losing his majority to the point he was locked out. Then when Trump got in basically calling out Obama and Clinton, he basically started doing as much as he could. Which most people noticed. However, he got stabbed in the back one too many times to get all the stuff he wanted done by the end of his first term. (Plus most of it was band-aids that Biden took off as soon as he got in.) Hints when he went the second time he had more of his own people and basically said fuck waiting and sign off EVERYTHING within the first week. However, he needs to make it law rather just a order. As they're only till the person leaves and the next person resends said order or put his own to replace it.
 
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You can't stop MAGA like you can marxists and a lot of leftist groups. As they require the government to cover for them and force their views for people to care about it. MAGA is counter to such groups and the reply when said groups cross a line to the point the normies even notice and start waking the fuck up. The problem was pre-2010s, the bread and circuses were good enough to keep people from look far. However, after Obama basically pull the classic leftist I am here for you and then as soon as he gets in shuts the door and listens to his donorers and master. He piss off a bunch of people, hints why he ended up losing his majority to the point he was locked out. Then when Trump got in basically calling out Obama and Clinton, he basically started doing as much as he could. Which most people noticed. However, he got stabbed in the back one too many times to get all the stuff he wanted done by the end of his first term. (Plus most of it was band-aids that Biden took off as soon as he got in.) Hints when he went the second time he had more of his own people and basically said fuck waiting and sign off EVERYTHING within the first week. However, he needs to make it law rather just a order. As they're only till the person leaves and the next person resends said order or put his own to replace it.
I think de-marxification isnt impossible and I wonder why nobody inside MAGA even attempted it.

Things can only get worse if you dont act. In america during 2016 there were 700 feminist university courses. I dont know how many there are now.

I listened to many anti-marxists who saw some good in MAGA, I thought maybe they would have had some idea how to do something despite the obvious flaws of MAGA. None did a thing, which to me seemed absurd, and I cannot even explain it.

I mean, it appeared evident that we need armies of lawyers, and embolden a youth able to enter academia and challenge SJWs and remove history of civic right courses and introduce history of the west and so on.

Then train a militia, and put favorable laws so that anyone can arm himself, and do the work of removing all marxists, and theres a lot of them.

MAGA didnt do that. Even if De-marxify was totally within their power.

Now hey get removed.
 
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I think de-marxification isnt impossible and I wonder why nobody inside MAGA even attempted it.

Things can only get worse if you dont act. In america during 2016 there were 700 feminist university courses. I dont know how many there are now.

I listened to many anti-marxists who saw some good in MAGA, I thought maybe they would have had some idea how to do something despite the obvious flaws of MAGA. None did a thing, which to me seemed absurd, and I cannot even explain it.

I mean, it appeared evident that we need armies of lawyers, and embolden a youth able to enter academia and challenge SJWs and remove history of civic right courses and introduce history of the west and so on.

Then train a militia, and put favorable laws so that anyone can arm himself, and do the work of removing all marxists, and theres a lot of them.

MAGA didnt do that. Even if De-marxify was totally within their power.

Now hey get removed.
Let's be honest. Half of the people really don't want to rock the boat, they just want that government paycheck and bribe money from super-pacs and corpos. The other half get taken out before they can do anything. The media covers those who attend the same "Diddy and Epstein parties." If they don't have something they can use on you, they will try to find something, make something, or hell just lie. I mean look at Trump, they still trying to push the Epstein shit on him, mind you Trump banned him from his resort and WAS WORKING WITH THE FBI against him thinking he was up to something and was right. However the left think if he lie enough and push all of hollywood and whoever is on their side to make the same jokes. People will end up thinking it's true...... (Sadly it works somewhat works with the NPCs as they can't read past the headlines and just blindly listen to the news. The saving grace is most of them are so forgetful that shit that happens a few months ago they will forget unless someone remembers it for them.)
 
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Let's be honest. Half of the people really don't want to rock the boat, they just want that government paycheck and bribe money from super-pacs and corpos. The other half get taken out before they can do anything. The media covers those who attend the same "Diddy and Epstein parties." If they don't have something they can use on you, they will try to find something, make something, or hell just lie. I mean look at Trump, they still trying to push the Epstein shit on him, mind you Trump banned him from his resort and WAS WORKING WITH THE FBI against him thinking he was up to something and was right. However the left think if he lie enough and push all of hollywood and whoever is on their side to make the same jokes. People will end up thinking it's true...... (Sadly it works somewhat works with the NPCs as they can't read past the headlines and just blindly listen to the news. The saving grace is most of them are so forgetful that shit that happens a few months ago they will forget unless someone remembers it for them.)
I dont know, I think I wrote some shitposts about it.

I don think is impossble to do good as a politician, I had a short career as mid tier politician, and at the time I didnt know any conspiracy theory, there were people with a title in sociology, one of them studied how to defeat mafia. My uncle also opened a party, and bled him dry. My exp with politics is limited and most of the true info I got them from conspiracy theories on the internet.

My current problem is how to get rid of MAGA-tards in europe, theres many, like rassemblement nationale, AFD and meloni and alll these shitbags who wish to ruin poland.

Observing MAGA in the USA I got an idea of the damage that can do to people, and why is such a problem.

I noticed in their movement they were able to corrupt the wealthy class very rapidly, which isnt happening in EU. In europe the corruption is mostly of the plebs and tards.

Hard for me to understand MAGA fully, especially since all the people I speak to are tards, and they dont give me much intel.
 
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I dont know, I think I wrote some shitposts about it.

I don think is impossble to do good as a politician, I had a short career as mid tier politician, and at the time I didnt know any conspiracy theory, there were people with a title in sociology, one of them studied how to defeat mafia. My uncle also opened a party, and bled him dry. My exp with politics is limited and most of the true info I got them from conspiracy theories on the internet.

My current problem is how to get rid of MAGA-tards in europe, theres many, like rassemblement nationale, AFD and meloni and alll these shitbags who wish to ruin poland.

Observing MAGA in the USA I got an idea of the damage that can do to people, and why is such a problem.

I noticed in their movement they were able to corrupt the wealthy class very rapidly, which isnt happening in EU. In europe the corruption is mostly of the plebs and tards.

Hard for me to understand MAGA fully, especially since all the people I speak to are tards, and they dont give me much intel.
Do I think it's impossible and no one got anything done at any level? No, we have clear examples of people get things done at the local, city, state and sometimes national level. However, anything past the "city level" often has some backroom deals or even if the person themselves isn't in the room or knows about it. They have people pulling the strings in the shadows to push something and basically make that good thing bad by the time they get what they want. However, we have seen states give to the will of the people at times. Though, at times they just say no cause they know the people won't do shit about it. Depends on the state.
 
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Do I think it's impossible and no one got anything done at any level? No, we have clear examples of people get things done at the local, city, state and sometimes national level. However, anything past the "city level" often has some backroom deals or even if the person themselves isn't in the room or knows about it. They have people pulling the strings in the shadows to push something and basically make that good thing bad by the time they get what they want. However, we have seen states give to the will of the people at times. Though, at times they just say no cause they know the people won't do shit about it. Depends on the state.
youre right I was at city level.

My uncle went further and it bled him dry and he spent all his money.

When you go bigger you are going to go against people who have apparently inextinguishable sources of money.

But even then, what I thought in the past was impossible, now seems absolutely real and I can see a way.

Also, I think if you go big, you will also do mistakes more often. But if you want do good theres ways.
 
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