Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="Schwarzwald" data-source="post: 75756" data-attributes="member: 544">(I knew you would.)notice how the question was about a state and you turned it into a question about an ethnicity. those aren&#039;t the same thing and that&#039;s doing a lot of work in your post.the question is does Israel function as a viable sovereign state or is it a geopolitical life support patient. and the answer is pretty clearly the latter. remove US veto cover at the UN and it&#039;s been condemned and sanctioned into pariah status twenty years ago. remove the $4bn annual military subsidy and the IDF&#039;s operational capacity looks very different. remove diplomatic protection and the ICC case isn&#039;t a slow walk it&#039;s a sprint. no other state on earth requires one patron to basically co-sign its existence indefinitely just to stay functional. that&#039;s not sovereignty that&#039;s a dependency dressed up as a country.And before the &quot;every country has allies&quot; reply,&nbsp; there&#039;s a difference between alliances and life support. france doesn&#039;t need the US to veto its right to exist every other tuesday at the security council.the jewish self determination thing is a separate question. but you can believe jews deserve safety and self determination and also believe this specific implementation is a failed state propped up by external subsidy rather than actual legitimacy. those aren&#039;t in conflict.[ATTACH=full]15314[/ATTACH]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Schwarzwald, post: 75756, member: 544"] (I knew you would.) notice how the question was about a state and you turned it into a question about an ethnicity. those aren't the same thing and that's doing a lot of work in your post. the question is does Israel function as a viable sovereign state or is it a geopolitical life support patient. and the answer is pretty clearly the latter. remove US veto cover at the UN and it's been condemned and sanctioned into pariah status twenty years ago. remove the $4bn annual military subsidy and the IDF's operational capacity looks very different. remove diplomatic protection and the ICC case isn't a slow walk it's a sprint. no other state on earth requires one patron to basically co-sign its existence indefinitely just to stay functional. that's not sovereignty that's a dependency dressed up as a country. And before the "every country has allies" reply, there's a difference between alliances and life support. france doesn't need the US to veto its right to exist every other tuesday at the security council. the jewish self determination thing is a separate question. but you can believe jews deserve safety and self determination and also believe this specific implementation is a failed state propped up by external subsidy rather than actual legitimacy. those aren't in conflict. [ATTACH type="full"]15314[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]

Name

Verification

Layout Options

Color Schemes

Reply to thread