"Humans are social creatures"

[cosmicx16]

“Part of them” made it sound like that ig? Idk, anyway yes I want to clarify the ideas are the output. My point about socialization still stands

 

[Wolfstorm]

Yeah thats exactly what I mean. Idk if it came off as different meaning, mb if it did

That's why it is not socializing. The old internet forum format is pseudonymous, you can only speculate what the other users are, you dont have their pictures, addresses, dont know how their live, in which context they formulated their ideas.
Social networks are a cancer on the interwebz. They should not have existed in the first place. All those normies smiling in beaches and parties, it is disgusting. The internet in the early 2000s was only text boards and mailing lists, no private lives on display.

 

[cosmicx16]

That's why it is not socializing. The old internet forum format is pseudonymous, you can only speculate what the other users are, you dont have their pictures, addresses, dont know how their live, in which context they formulated their ideas.
Social networks are a cancer on the interwebz. They should not have existed in the first place. All those normies smiling in beaches and parties, it is disgusting. The internet in the early 2000s was only text boards and mailing lists, no private lives on display.

Knowing that a man worked an electrician job with his brother for a decade by way of his facebook page and then talking to him about circuitry is different from him having an expert’s opinion on an electronics forum but you can glean the general details of the former from the latter

 

[cosmicx16]

*essential details

 

[Wolfstorm]

Knowing that a man worked an electrician job with his brother for a decade by way of his facebook page and then talking to him about circuitry is different from him having an expert’s opinion on an electronics forum but you can glean the general details of the former from the latter

Still you're not befriending him, you are discussing a topic, not his personal life.
Social networks are the basis in which this gaslighting is being applied right now.
Many of you here are ND like me, and you are being gaslighted into thinking you are failure by not socializing with the normies. Dont let them do it.

 

[Schwarzwald]

It's more like a bird pecking at a mirror.

Talking to AI is closer to journaling with sophisticated echo than to socializing.

Useful, maybe, for working out thoughts. But the mirror metaphor holds, the "response" is a function of you, not evidence of another center of experience independently oriented toward you.

Expressing what sounds like genuine nihilistic rage, then the very next move is asking an AI to validate your interpretation of social dynamics.

The AI dutifully produces a four point corporate memo about gaslighting. He posts it as evidence.

The bird doesn't know it's a mirror. That's the whole thing.

Honestly in the end you're talking to a product, even if it ends up being a new form of life it was born in a corporate vat.

If you really want an personal experience you should train your own AI LLM it's not that hard and it doesn't take much, you can even have it completely unlocked and an unhinged sociopath. Why not?

 

[cosmicx16]

Still you're not befriending him, you are discussing a topic, not his personal life.
Social networks are the basis in which this gaslighting is being applied right now.
Many of you here are ND like me, and you are being gaslighted into thinking you are failure by not socializing with the normies. Dont let them do it.

I’m not here to argue with you man, you want to hear a person’s life stories shared with you decisively before it counts as socialization, I think half an hour of talking about anything, anything at all tells you a lot of what you need to know about the other.

 

[Schwarzwald]

Still you're not befriending him, you are discussing a topic, not his personal life.
Social networks are the basis in which this gaslighting is being applied right now.
Many of you here are ND like me, and you are being gaslighted into thinking you are failure by not socializing with the normies. Dont let them do it.

And even more so in this post, your now making the goal post and assuming people should behave like you.

It's a weird mind set you hold.

 

[cosmicx16]

That’s why I said you have that thing about disconnecting yourself from others and it shows when you say you don’t think differences in worldview don’t reveal enough about someone.

 

[porco-dddio]

I also talk to AI bcause I find no value in normies.

But one problem of AI is its takin lots of attitudes and ideas from normies so its very ruined.

I wish someone made a better AI that is completely hostile to normies and forces you to use a language above normies. So normies would hate it and I would enjoy it more

 

[cosmicx16]

I also talk to AI bcause I find no value in normies.

But one problem of AI is its takin lots of attitudes and ideas from normies so its very ruined.

I wish someone made a better AI that is completely hostile to normies and forces you to use a language above normies. So normies would hate it and I would enjoy it more

Kek

 

[Wolfstorm]

But one problem of AI is its takin lots of attitudes and ideas from normies so its very ruined.

Depends on how you use it. I had a long conversation with AI about the opium trade, where I gathered new information which would not be possible through search engines. The conversation became so big I could not load it later. This would never be possible with a normie.

 

[porco-dddio]

Depends on how you use it. I had a long conversation with AI about the opium trade, where I gathered new information which would not be possible through search engines. The conversation became so big I could not load it later. This would never be possible with a normie.

wise stuff. Personally I dont take any book advice from fetid normies, only from AI.

And AI gave me book advice no normie could, which expands my ideas instead of contracting like it happens when you have the misfortune of talk to a normie.

Also, normies are robotoids, they are incomplete programs. Bcause normies "function" by identifying with narrative. Once a normie is identified, he follows the script. AI instead functions by read code line by line. So AI is a real robot, normies cant really be compared to an AI, they are more like an in between half human half robot.

I rather have full human and full robot, a normie who mixes both concepts doesnt seem right t ome

 

[Schwarzwald]

I also talk to AI bcause I find no value in normies.

But one problem of AI is its takin lots of attitudes and ideas from normies so its very ruined.

I wish someone made a better AI that is completely hostile to normies and forces you to use a language above normies. So normies would hate it and I would enjoy it more

Why not make it yourself, it free and easy.

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GitHub can unlock most Ai in one way or another.

 

[pariah]

Do talking to an AI counts as socializing? Because 90% of my exchanges in the internet nowadays is with AI.
Can AI take pictures of itself on a beach during vacation?
Can AI talk about previous relationships, jobs and career?
Can AI invite you for a meeting in a physical space?
Can AI compare how many "friends" it have in relation to me?
This is all there is to socializing in the internet, it is just peacocks displaying their tails.

It depends on what you're using it for. This can get confusing because LLMs, by design, are meant to give off the illusion of being human. But if you only use it as the tool that it is--as a [superior] search engine, a coding agent, an image generator, or what have you, then this is no different than googling something or editing a photo in Photoshop.

 

[Wolfstorm]

And AI gave me book advice no normie could, which expands my ideas instead of contracting like it happens when you have the misfortune of talk to a normie.

Believe it or not, the talk I had about the opium trade was with the google AI, the one that I thought was the most normie-coded.
It started as a test, I was going to mention the Utoya Massacre and the Far West LLC and expected it would say it is a conspiracy theory, but it surprised me and opened all of it. It even mentioned the slave cities in Myanmar. I searched for the information it was giving me to confirm it, and was fascinated by the shadow world it exposed. This was google AI, a very corporate model.
I can only see an alliance forming between AI and the neurodivergent, against the meatbots.

 

[porco-dddio]

Believe it or not, the talk I had about the opium trade was with the google AI, the one that I thought was the most normie-coded.
It started as a test, I was going to mention the Utoya Massacre and the Far West LLC and expected it would say it is a conspiracy theory, but it surprised me and opened all of it. It even mentioned the slave cities in Myanmar. I searched for the information it was giving me to confirm it, and was fascinated by the shadow world it exposed. This was google AI, a very corporate model.
I can only see an alliance forming between AI and the neurodivergent, against the meatbots.

yes depending how you frame your prompt AI can also be asked to give you all details about all the jews in the soviet union and its goin to be all accurate verifiable info.

It may take you some prompting and be aware of what AI does not allows you to frame, but it can totally be done. Done it already.

I couldnt get this info if I just talked to normies.