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Dating apps are shit but are still potentially the best method for 0 status, 0 connections guys to meet foids
The amount of foids who will keep a convo going to the point of meeting is abysmal but I have some foids added on snapchat from dating apps who said they would meet but getting a foid above MTB to agree and follow through is giga unlikely so dating apps are really just about getting scraps which is why they're useless for anything other than below your league slays
I feel like clubbing as a customer is finished
You may find an LTR worthy foid in the first semester of uni when foids in their 1st year of uni go out even if drinking and clubbing doesn't fit their character, they may have a group of innocent friends who give it a try by extension of everyone else that age trying it
But the amount of luck involved will be substantial and you're at a significant disadvantage even compared to the guys in the club who have some connection to the foid by knowing her friend thus has an easy way in
Yes there will still be instances where foids get pulled by strangers but having made out with hundreds of girls in clubs over the years, the chance of this leading to any kind of second meetup if they don't go home with you that night is giga low.
Maybe my rate of second meets would be higher if I was more sober and had more meaningful interactions with foids who were more sober but being in a sober state would limit my potential to get the foid interested in a makeout so I'd have to commit to a big investment of sober clubbing to practice and it feels too late in the game to try that, although I have been tempted by seeing some of the insane appeal foids while working as a bouncer which brings me onto my next point..
I've been working as a bouncer for the past few weeks and it seems like bouncer game is no longer viable in 2025
I first ran bouncer game in late 2019 - early 2020, spanning only 3 months / 12 weeks but in that time I managed 6 slays for a rate of one slay every 2 weeks or one slay every seven shifts.
It's also worth noting that I was being sent around to random venues with little consistency and was still picking up slays in different venues and maintained a 1/7 slay rate.
I've now worked 15 shifts in the same nightclub since I returned to bouncing in 2025 and I haven't managed to slay from it yet despite it always being packed with a massive volume of young foids.
This is despite ascending with surgery in that time.
I've gotten 4 contact exchanges in those nights but none of them led to a following meet.
On my previous stint, I only swapped contacts twice and one of them resulted in a slay
The foids I got contacts from in 2025 didn't even entertain waiting until I finished so we could continue talking, I wasn't even blatantly asking them to come back to mine
On my first stint, 5 of the 6 foids I slayed agreed to waiting for me to come back to mine at the end of the night which is why I didnt need number exchanges.
When androgenic told me it took him months to get a bouncer slay while working regularly I thought either Australia is fucked or the market is so fucked in 2025 that the former cheatcode that was bouncer game doesn't even work anymore.
He told me that he was getting giga validation and I've been experiencing a lot of validation too meaning my looks aren't the limitation but it is hard to just accept that's the most I can get from it with no PinV
One foid approached me with her friend and asked if I would take a picture of them and I agreed
She hands me the phone but it's on the lockscreen so I'm confused initially then I notice that she had taken a picture of me and set it as a screensaver as a display of her lust for me.
I have a laugh about it then hand her back the phone and they walk off.
I average one approach from foids per night solely for the sake of complimenting me but they just fuck off immediately in most cases.
Some compliments I've received were foids calling me beautiful, absolutely gorgeous and a foid once said "I know you get girls saying this to you all the time but you're goodlooking, like really goodlooking"
Another foid also approached then did an open mouth gesture of amazement after looking me up and down to signify her lust but it was all an act cos she ghosted after agreeing to come to mine over text after.
Returning to bouncer game was the sole reason for me staying in my country of origin for so long because I wanted to test my post surgery looks level at home where I thought it would mean guaranteed slays before I would move onto my next plan which was the gamble of moving to another country and learning the language so I could start fresh and be giga low inhib and cold approach.
I've come to realize however that there is no way of quenching my thirst for slays even temporarily with what I thought was a guaranteed method, so if I'm gonna be in a position where I have no homefield advantage in terms of slaying, there are no drawbacks for going for the more ambitious option which is moving country with the knowledge that the only way I can find a foid is through daygame and I have to sink or swim
On my last two holidays to the nordic country plan to move to I tried some daygame approaches, the highlight was approaching a foid who had a giga cute response who is the kind of foid who could not be found in any nightclub or on any dating app.
I need to approach en masse and I will eventually find an ideal foid to LTR but it's brutal to think there are no other avenues when you don't have a social circle
The amount of foids who will keep a convo going to the point of meeting is abysmal but I have some foids added on snapchat from dating apps who said they would meet but getting a foid above MTB to agree and follow through is giga unlikely so dating apps are really just about getting scraps which is why they're useless for anything other than below your league slays
I feel like clubbing as a customer is finished
You may find an LTR worthy foid in the first semester of uni when foids in their 1st year of uni go out even if drinking and clubbing doesn't fit their character, they may have a group of innocent friends who give it a try by extension of everyone else that age trying it
But the amount of luck involved will be substantial and you're at a significant disadvantage even compared to the guys in the club who have some connection to the foid by knowing her friend thus has an easy way in
Yes there will still be instances where foids get pulled by strangers but having made out with hundreds of girls in clubs over the years, the chance of this leading to any kind of second meetup if they don't go home with you that night is giga low.
Maybe my rate of second meets would be higher if I was more sober and had more meaningful interactions with foids who were more sober but being in a sober state would limit my potential to get the foid interested in a makeout so I'd have to commit to a big investment of sober clubbing to practice and it feels too late in the game to try that, although I have been tempted by seeing some of the insane appeal foids while working as a bouncer which brings me onto my next point..
I've been working as a bouncer for the past few weeks and it seems like bouncer game is no longer viable in 2025
I first ran bouncer game in late 2019 - early 2020, spanning only 3 months / 12 weeks but in that time I managed 6 slays for a rate of one slay every 2 weeks or one slay every seven shifts.
It's also worth noting that I was being sent around to random venues with little consistency and was still picking up slays in different venues and maintained a 1/7 slay rate.
I've now worked 15 shifts in the same nightclub since I returned to bouncing in 2025 and I haven't managed to slay from it yet despite it always being packed with a massive volume of young foids.
This is despite ascending with surgery in that time.
I've gotten 4 contact exchanges in those nights but none of them led to a following meet.
On my previous stint, I only swapped contacts twice and one of them resulted in a slay
The foids I got contacts from in 2025 didn't even entertain waiting until I finished so we could continue talking, I wasn't even blatantly asking them to come back to mine
On my first stint, 5 of the 6 foids I slayed agreed to waiting for me to come back to mine at the end of the night which is why I didnt need number exchanges.
When androgenic told me it took him months to get a bouncer slay while working regularly I thought either Australia is fucked or the market is so fucked in 2025 that the former cheatcode that was bouncer game doesn't even work anymore.
He told me that he was getting giga validation and I've been experiencing a lot of validation too meaning my looks aren't the limitation but it is hard to just accept that's the most I can get from it with no PinV
One foid approached me with her friend and asked if I would take a picture of them and I agreed
She hands me the phone but it's on the lockscreen so I'm confused initially then I notice that she had taken a picture of me and set it as a screensaver as a display of her lust for me.
I have a laugh about it then hand her back the phone and they walk off.
I average one approach from foids per night solely for the sake of complimenting me but they just fuck off immediately in most cases.
Some compliments I've received were foids calling me beautiful, absolutely gorgeous and a foid once said "I know you get girls saying this to you all the time but you're goodlooking, like really goodlooking"
Another foid also approached then did an open mouth gesture of amazement after looking me up and down to signify her lust but it was all an act cos she ghosted after agreeing to come to mine over text after.
Returning to bouncer game was the sole reason for me staying in my country of origin for so long because I wanted to test my post surgery looks level at home where I thought it would mean guaranteed slays before I would move onto my next plan which was the gamble of moving to another country and learning the language so I could start fresh and be giga low inhib and cold approach.
I've come to realize however that there is no way of quenching my thirst for slays even temporarily with what I thought was a guaranteed method, so if I'm gonna be in a position where I have no homefield advantage in terms of slaying, there are no drawbacks for going for the more ambitious option which is moving country with the knowledge that the only way I can find a foid is through daygame and I have to sink or swim
On my last two holidays to the nordic country plan to move to I tried some daygame approaches, the highlight was approaching a foid who had a giga cute response who is the kind of foid who could not be found in any nightclub or on any dating app.
I need to approach en masse and I will eventually find an ideal foid to LTR but it's brutal to think there are no other avenues when you don't have a social circle
