I have a thing for siding with the underdog

[MAGONIA]

I tink i have a pretty clear idea what it is. Its an anti west separatist movement.

You call Fuentes as MAGA and as someone who is MAGA. I am offended. MAGA is nationalistic. its not anti west but I hope its Anti EU unless EU transforms into something based

 

[porco-dddio]

You call Fuentes as MAGA and as someone who is MAGA. I am offended. MAGA is nationalistic. its not anti west but I hope its Anti EU unless EU transforms into something based

I didnt reply to all you said. Seems to me absurd to say trump betrays arabs, hes supported by them.

And yeah, nick is inexorably tied to the Trump media regardless what he says.

 

[MAGONIA]

I didnt reply to all you said. Seems to me absurd to say trump betrays arabs, hes supported by them.

By Saudis? Saudis and Americans have a longs standing relationship.
What persident didnt have a positive relationship with saudis Polk?
What are you even talking about?

And yeah, nick is inexorably tied to the Trump media regardless what he says.

It sounds like you have a mental illness

They both have denounced each other, trump has denounced tucker Carlson too. they dont get along.

America first shoots america in the foot. They promote term thinking that sounds based but hurts long term.

 

[porco-dddio]

America first shoots america in the foot. They promote term thinking that sounds based but hurts long term.

I admit I dont follow either of them so I dont have any idea what they said recently but its impossible to think these people are not part of trump media.

By Saudis? Saudis and Americans have a longs standing relationship.
What persident didnt have a positive relationship with saudis Polk?
What are you even talking about?

Theres masonries in iran and all arablands in general. I simply wanted to keep the conspiracy at a minimum.

On social media I think you will see the "based" christian + islam alliance vs jews. Its measurable also observing moods of the MAGAtards, they insult only white people and they always talk good of arabs calling them "based".

Overall conspiracy theories are reality.

 

[MAGONIA]

I admit I dont follow either of them so I dont have any idea what they said recently but its impossible to think these people are not part of trump media.

What is trump media?

Both market america? Make americas Great again VS America Fist?

You think they are the same because they market to the same people... er.. sometime after 2018 Nick stared to market towards the weirdos that are terminally online.

He was for Kamala Harris because it would cause a Collapse sooner
Now he styles himself as a based democrat.
If that makes him MAGA or Trump media then so is David Duke, Andrew Yang, and Richard Spencer. You being like a democrat desperate to place correlation.


Its because of Islamic brotherhood, Qatar and others subverting America First, Tucker Carlson and others
Its nothing to do with MAGA other than MAGA is influenced by these guys who arent MAGA

Also allot of people on X and stuff are Islamists actually pretending to be based americans.
Its actually normal for english speaking people to larp as americans online epecially canadians and muslims

 

[porco-dddio]

What is trump media?

To me, it is the whole dissidoid movement, including also the "accelerationists" and guys into critique of modernity, the libertarians and so on. The whole broad group. I remembe dugin identified 12 major groups I dont know them all he identified them prtty accurately.

Traditionalists, christians, conservatives, pagans, alternative media, gamers, anti sjw people, libertarians so on.

Thats the group that contains all these people, and they cannot be organized in a coherent way, because some of them have ideas opposite of the other group.

So the organization happeend with demoralization, using the logic of each of their ideologies so that they would agree on common "hating points" like hate of NATO for example. So long you conclude your "philosophical journey" with "NATO is crap" then youre good.

Or they make you conclude "the west is doomed" or whatever. What matters is the conclusion not the starting point. You can start libertarian, and so long you focus all day and night talk about gold standards and isolationism, then youre good who gives a fuck about your "intellectual framework".

Thats trump media, the whole of the anti-west demoralization psyop. Its pretty large.

 

[MAGONIA]

To me, it is the whole dissidoid movement, including also the "accelerationists" and guys into critique of modernity, the libertarians and so on. The whole broad group. I remembe dugin identified 12 major groups I dont know them all he identified them prtty accurately.

Traditionalists, christians, conservatives, pagans, alternative media, gamers, anti sjw people, libertarians so on.

Thats the group that contains all these people, and they cannot be organized in a coherent way, because some of them have ideas opposite of the other group.

So the organization happeend with demoralization, using the logic of each of their ideologies so that they would agree on common "hating points" like hate of NATO for example. So long you conclude your "philosophical journey" with "NATO is crap" then youre good.

Or they make you conclude "the west is doomed" or whatever. What matters is the conclusion not the starting point. You can start libertarian, and so long you focus all day and night talk about gold standards and isolationism, then youre good who gives a fuck about your "intellectual framework".

Thats trump media, the whole of the anti-west demoralization psyop. Its pretty large.

So you decided everything you dislike about the "dissadoid riight" is orange manism and nato is golden and the west has nothing to worry about?

 

[porco-dddio]

So you decided everything you dislike about the "dissadoid riight" is orange manism and nato is golden and the west has nothing to worry about?

Bro its impossible to not see it. All people in dissidoid movement repeat the same shit during the same period of time, slander the same people, coordinate the same united front tactics, use the same demoralizations at the same time, signal boost each other.

If you dont want to see it who gives a shit.

To answer your question, no I dont think the west is all good. There are issues that the dissidoid movement is enhancing and their goal is obviously to profit off of them. Solving issues is probbly the best way to annihilate the dissidoid menace. But its way harder than just insulting them online, which is why you see me often resorting to this cheap theatrics on the internet where I shit on MAGA.

 

[MAGONIA]

Solving issues is probbly the best way to annihilate the dissidoid menace.

See, we are this way because you and Nato are that way. We prefer the Pacific over Europe. We (not me) prefer Sharia over femmenism. We been trying to talk but we feel betrayed by women and the EU all the time.

 

[porco-dddio]

See, we are this way because you and Nato are that way. We prefer the Pacific over Europe. We (not me) prefer Sharia over femmenism. We been trying to talk but we feel betrayed by women and the EU all the time.

No its mostly foreign interference, cause they treat america as an open market leaderless country where anyone can go and buy their politicians and corrupt them and propagandize american people.

Its a situation where if I go there, buy their land and pay some assholes I will use americans however I want. I can buy some bullshit propaganda, and pierce their politics, its a matter of money.

These topics talked about by dissidoid media are mostly BS, except maybe the issues they had in the past talkin about marxist academia, that one is demonstrably real. But if you notice is also the one they did nothing whatsoever to stop.

 

[MAGONIA]

the issues they had in the past talkin about marxist academia, that one is demonstrably real. But if you notice is also the one they did nothing whatsoever to stop.

His efforts to "stop" Marxist influence have been hindered or halted in the following ways:

• Court Challenges to Executive Orders: Several of Trump's actions have been blocked or stalled in federal court, particularly those involving the revocation of funding or changing accreditation rules3•6. For example, a federal judge temporarily blocked the administration from revoking research grants from University of California researchers3.
• Legal Disputes over DEI: The administration's efforts to restrict Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives in schools and higher education have faced legal pushback. A district court permanently invalidated a "Dear Colleague" directive that aimed to limit these efforts5.
• Accreditor Resistance: The Council of Regional Accrediting Commissions has rejected Trump's characterization of accreditors as "Marxist" and has indicated that they are prepared to escalate concerns regarding accreditor recognition to federal court2.
• Immigration and Visa Challenges: Efforts to restrict the entry or certification of international students—such as the revocation of Harvard's Student Visa certification and new proclamations preventing certain students from entering the country—have also been met with lawsuits and temporary court orders that have halted the administration's actions8.
• Bureaucratic Hurdles: Some of the administration's moves to overhaul the education system have been slowed by a lack of staff at the Department of Education following significant cuts, making it difficult to implement new directives or complete required administrative procedures

 

[porco-dddio]

His efforts to "stop" Marxist influence have been hindered or halted in the following ways:

I have another interpretation but thanks for your perspective will take it into account later, but not now. I wrote incel shitposts of what I think is the MAGA cultural revolution and why it seems they have such a small effect inside institutions. Yes probably you got a point and its not easy to change institutions, its useful to read your perspective perhaps can balance my total anti-MAGA attitude a bit.

 

[Shinrinken]

Dirtbag left and dissidoid right are the same what are you saying? theyre 2 flavors of the same communism.

One is marxist lesbian (SJW) and the other is bolshevik homosexual (dissidoids). This is not a prank, is really what they are.

Yeah, though I am not going to blame group A being attack by group B and basically having the government and media cover and hide them for doing that, then whine when that group complains. Both sides are the same, however when the left start the shit and now whine that the tactics they used as being used against them. I don't like the tactic to begin with however, if they used and abused it. They can't whine when they have it use on them. Though, to be fair the "MAGA right" are barely fucking using it. They're not really using it like the left have been. They need to use it more like them if they want it to work. Funny enough if they would use it, they would do more damage then the left as they have more weight to use it compare to the left.

I think most of the people in MAGA at least cares about the country and don't want to fuck us over to get that bag right now, the left are basically brownshirts or have no problem fucking the country over as long as they get theirs before fucking off. (Politicians on both sides are basically trying to get the bag, I am talking about the people themselves.)

 

[porco-dddio]

. Both sides are the same

This became true when the dirtbag left became stalinist, which I embraced and welcomed. I simply thought it was the reveal moment when finally they made the meme a reality.

When one said "they are the same" it sounded like a platitude cynical observation, now is instead a truth you can say like when you do 2+2 = 4, now does not sounds like a platitude.

most of the people in MAGA at least cares about the country

It can be, they signaled towards people who "care" similarly compared to the left who signals towards people who "care" about environment, other than "caring" you can notice there isnt much oftentimes.

they rebrand symbols of dissent and resistance repackagin them so they get incorporated into generic "nationalism" so on, surely they do demonstrate a tendency to attract people who "care". So you get the "truth tellers" or "the underground counterculture" with joe roagan being their leader.

Very fascinating but it didnt escape my incel oversight.

 

[Shinrinken]

This became true when the dirtbag left became stalinist, which I embraced and welcomed. I simply thought it was the reveal moment when finally they made the meme a reality.

When one said "they are the same" it sounded like a platitude cynical observation, now is instead a truth you can say like when you do 2+2 = 4, now does not sounds like a platitude.



It can be, they signaled towards people who "care" similarly compared to the left who signals towards people who "care" about environment, other than "caring" you can notice there isnt much oftentimes.

they rebrand symbols of dissent and resistance repackagin them so they get incorporated into generic "nationalism" so on, surely they do demonstrate a tendency to attract people who "care". So you get the "truth tellers" or "the underground counterculture" with joe roagan being their leader.

Very fascinating but it didnt escape my incel oversight.

It was implied, at the end of the day, both sides want to be in control. However the left basically shown any power they have that they can abused, they do it without a second thought. The right at least "holds back" when they have the power. Look at Jan 6 for a perfect example. It was revealed to be done by the FBI and even then they couldn't get the riot they trying to say it was. However, look at the "summer of love," the capital building bombing of 83 and the 10 fucking years of "fiery but mostly peaceful protests." They basically don't deny they all about "rules for thee, but not for me." The right at least holds back, if Trump was half the tyrant the left lies and cries he was. It would be more like when the left in charge and abusing their power like Biden, Obama, etc.

 

[porco-dddio]

It was implied, at the end of the day, both sides want to be in control. However the left basically shown any power they have that they can abused, they do it without a second thought.

Well as for what im concerned our culture needs to reframe colonialist studies, reintroduce history of the west and open a challenge vs marxists inside academia, reclaim the right to open debate, create holocaust conferences, reclaim our mythology and so on, get rid of the antiwest antiwhite stuff, punish feminism, persecute liars (including redpill liars).

Simply framing yourself "dissident" didnt achieve any of that, on the contrary it is a frame that accepts the logic of false opposites. This is not "a mistake", they consciously accepted to be adversaries of "the left" they did it on purpose.

I know they do it on purpose, read all these fucks into critique of modernity or "accelerationism", these guys are literally enemies of the west, they are traitors and deserters. The frame of normies in their squabble left vs right simply accepts ideas tat once were mainstream or old conspiracies, they became mainstream with the passing of time.

 

[porco-dddio]

Oh by the way. Notice this.

All these "macho posturing" guys, they posture alot.

But when the west is in danger, they never join us and they disappear or they join the enemy.

They are out spamming "accelerationism", this is what their "masculinity" is all about, shit your pants when things are hard. This is why traitors are universally hated in all cultures, when things are bad they shit their pants and become "accelerationist" or join the enemy.

 

[MAGONIA]

ts useful to read your perspective perhaps can balance my total anti-MAGA attitude a bit.

I like reading your posts. you are so unusual and I think im hearing foreign takes we doint hear so often as Americans
I think some of it is your own (or just your circles) subversiveness but others are real european takes

 

[porco-dddio]

I like reading your posts. you are so unusual and I think im hearing foreign takes we doint hear so often as Americans

Its embarrassing for me to admit I dont know shit about my local politics.

Its simply bcause im a loser who has been americanized 100%, you hear it also in my english accent with sounds like russian+mexican+american, all my terminology is american, all my life is american influenced. Spent a ton of time listening or redin boomers on gun reloading platforms. Had all american heroes like that guy on cold steel who was doin gun education vids and cringe stunts.

So if you ask me bout local politics, my perspective is mostly bout masons and conspiracies and stuff. Can say somthin bout how mafia functions, but all politics I approached is more like me listening to intro level materials on political philosophy or me getting internet perspectives.

Im also outcast, so I wont participate with any university consciousness, like IDK colonialist studies or the framing of fascism, but im aware of broad university trends, is simply an outcast like myself has nothing to do with them.

 

[porco-dddio]

I think some of it is your own (or just your circles) subversiveness but others are real european takes

Im not embracing any particulare "european take" and took too long to figure out the values of the west nobody taught me in school.

I presume in the context of an open dialog opened with normies, the only "european takes" I can have in common are hostility towards russia and the idea we are getting invaded by third world.

However, the EU world is not dissimilar to yours, because we are given these puppet idiot "dissidoids" who reframe the hatred against immigration and force us on platforms that spport MAGA, russia and israel. Basically what they do is take advantage of the sentiments of the populace, and reframe the anti-immigration feels into support russia+america+israel. Its the usual, you get that shit too.

The dissidoid is a global menace.

 

[Shinrinken]

Oh by the way. Notice this.

All these "macho posturing" guys, they posture alot.

But when the west is in danger, they never join us and they disappear or they join the enemy.

They are out spamming "accelerationism", this is what their "masculinity" is all about, shit your pants when things are hard. This is why traitors are universally hated in all cultures, when things are bad they shit their pants and become "accelerationist" or join the enemy.

I agree, most of the these internet "tough guys" will shut their account down and go into hiding when it's time to walk to walk. The left at the moment know they can get away with most of the shirt due to the Soro's DA and Judges basically releasing them or slapping them on the wrist while going after people who don't let the 3rd world POC robber/rapist/etc have their way and shooting/beating them. Especially in places like CA, MN, NY, all of canada, etc. However we seen with the protest when they get arrested they start freaking out like a toddler and scream all the "magic words" they think that will help like like "rape," "I can't breathe," etc. It's kind of funny and somewhat sad when you think these fuckers can vote.

 

[porco-dddio]

I agree, most of the these internet "tough guys" will shut their account down and go into hiding when it's time to walk to walk. The left at the moment know they can get away with most of the shirt due to the Soro's DA and Judges basically releasing them or slapping them on the wrist while going after people who don't let the 3rd world POC robber/rapist/etc have their way and shooting/beating them. Especially in places like CA, MN, NY, all of canada, etc. However we seen with the protest when they get arrested they start freaking out like a toddler and scream all the "magic words" they think that will help like like "rape," "I can't breathe," etc. It's kind of funny and somewhat sad when you think these fuckers can vote.

If you observe reality, peoples you may frame as "leftist" are of help to us.

I mean, whos preserving our local language and identity? Left. Whos into art preservation? Left. In my country is atheists the ones who run church preservation, for as absurd as it seems. I think nobody in the right has any passion for tradition or folklore or mythology.

I mean, there are high-tier conservatives, some are also useful like roger scruton isnt all bad cause at least he done apple festivals and hes into art preservation and he done something against brutalist architecture using a conservative perspective.

But the majority of people who actually do something tend to be left leaning. Its just the reality of life.

 

[porco-dddio]

Yes theres some conservatives who are good, or decent at least. Like, even vittorio sgarbi who was insulted often by national TV, hes very good in reality he done a lot to preserve churches and he also mounted an attack against cacciari an he blamed women. He said venice is ruined because women vote with vagina. He really said it.

he said women voted cacciari because hes a pseud who uses philosophy to fascinate women, which is true. And women are romantically attracted to the pseudo-philosophy of giuseppe cacciari, who in real life is a hobo with bad breath, looks like one of these scammer indians who fascinate womn with cheap spirituality.

Issue is, he became mayor, he enabled the destruction of the city implanting horrid architecture. Whos fault = Women fault. This is objective.

So there you have it, theres some good conservatives out there, however they are in the minority. Surely, if you observe public dialog, the masses are hateful anti-white antiwestern and theyre only appropriating of ideas so they reframe them into left vs right dissidoid adversarialism.

 

[Shinrinken]

If you observe reality, peoples you may frame as "leftist" are of help to us.

I mean, whos preserving our local language and identity? Left. Whos into art preservation? Left. In my country is atheists the ones who run church preservation, for as absurd as it seems. I think nobody in the right has any passion for tradition or folklore or mythology.

I mean, there are high-tier conservatives, some are also useful like roger scruton isnt all bad cause at least he done apple festivals and hes into art preservation and he done something against brutalist architecture using a conservative perspective.

But the majority of people who actually do something tend to be left leaning. Its just the reality of life.

The left aren't preserving shit. If they don't try demonize it, they actively try to change it to their ideals or reboot it to do it. Look at Star Wars, Dr. Who, LOTR, Marvel, DC, etc. I agree, that the left are more in tune with arts then the right. However, most of them are tumblr fanart shippers mostly tourists and activists over writers and artist. Plus the few who are good tend to get in their own way to push the message over writing a good story. The few right wing artist basically are fucked over by both sides as the right don't give shit to them, and the left basically gatekeep them from everything they can.

Remember, the left will ruin anything that doesn't help push their will. We seen it time and time again.

 

[porco-dddio]

The left aren't preserving shit. If they don't try demonize it, they actively try to change it to their ideals or reboot it to do it. Look at Star Wars, Dr. Who, LOTR, Marvel, DC, etc. I agree, that the left are more in tune with arts then the right. However, most of them are tumblr fanart shippers mostly tourists and activists over writers and artist. Plus the few who are good tend to get in their own way to push the message over writing a good story. The few right wing artist basically are fucked over by both sides as the right don't give shit to them, and the left basically gatekeep them from everything they can.

Remember, the left will ruin anything that doesn't help push their will. We seen it time and time again.

I just made examples where the people who preserve are left leaning.

Next time I show you pics. I mean, for instance in all churches f genova, leftist curator (a woman) plugged pagan symbols, explaining to all tourists that these religious sites were built atop of older truer mythologies now slandered as "pagan", basically cultural replacement. And near jesus cross she plugged the Y symbol like the one used by some nazis at times.

And she also put a second donation box, one goes to the shit church, the second goes to atheist art preservation and every single tourist donates for art, not for the church.

This is one example o the amazing based leftist ideas. Unfortunately shes one of these old timer marxists, but in front of such based behavior Im gona close an eye.