My problem is WP is

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WP is just acceptancepill and be happy (crucial difference to BPers who wallow in self-pity imo) Like I get that. But I genuinely feel it should be more revolutionary because it accepts circumstances today which weren't always the case.

You don't need to be an epicurean stoic nowadays to escape modern hell, if you geomaxxx in some village in Egypt. You can be a normie and equally get happiness alongside material, worldly pleasure.

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you're not wrong with 'geomaxxing'. i disagree however with your assessment that it's just an acceptance pill. it's less about accepting specific circumstances that exist today that weren't present in the past and more about accepting that shit happens, and if you sit there and wallow/cry/complain/seethe/cope/etc. then you'll get nowhere and things will never improve. it's about doing the best with what you can. the concept transcends that of the modern era. the 'whitepill' isn't a new concept but i can argue an easier way to digest it.
 
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you're not wrong with 'geomaxxing'. i disagree however with your assessment that it's just an acceptance pill. it's less about accepting specific circumstances that exist today that weren't present in the past and more about accepting that shit happens, and if you sit there and wallow/cry/complain/seethe/cope/etc. then you'll get nowhere and things will never improve. it's about doing the best with what you can. the concept transcends that of the modern era. the 'whitepill' isn't a new concept but i can argue an easier way to digest it.
Sounded a bit contradicting when you said 'improve'. Do you mean improving your situation or improving your mental health to cope with the situation (which you can't change).

Modern era and society is LITERALLY not made for most people. By the end of the century population will fall off a cliff. We are not supposed to live like this and I propose geomaxxing to societies where you can - or at least importing someone from elsewhere, wherever you can. Although WP tends to say let go over your need/demand of women / sexual gratification. I don't think that helps nor is natural.
 
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Sounded a bit contradicting when you said 'improve'. Do you mean improving your situation or improving your mental health to cope with the situation (which you can't change).
i mean both, in a way. you should do what you can to improve your mental health first and foremost as it has arguably the most direct impact on your day to day life. (at least internally.) the second step is to do what you can to impact the situation around you. a lot of the time the stressors come from things in your immediate situation which you can change. there's a lot of overlap in overthinking and blackpilling. a majority of the major issues in the western world you might not even encounter due to the mass scale nature of them, and others are sort of this overreaching hand hovering above us. we think it'll crash down but it hasn't yet, it might be a bluff, and for that reason we must keep going.

might have sounded contradictory there mentioning the 'mass scale' but what i mean is that there's plenty of opportunities for you to slip under the radar and pass by these issues without being majorly impacted by them.
 
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There is a problem with most pill and with a lot of other groups and categories, unfortunately the world is often more gray than black or white, and if you try to focus on what it fits or not, you will just end up without a home, or something to follow, call it being a loser or call it avoiding sheep mentality.

It makes me remember something, The original forum is gone, but I remember reading about the concept of the "Dark Blue" on the Italian incelosphere.
The Dark Blue pill isn’t just about rejecting the blue pill illusions or the false hopes of the red pill. It also avoids the black pill overly negative view of life.
it’s about accepting your social status or looks and focusing on other parts of life for happiness and fulfillment.
It’s a middle path. living fully without fighting or giving in to the realities of attraction and social dynamics

I recall user "Adinur" explaing some things about it, being part of his bigger "Alba Theory":
"A dear friend, tired of continuous rejections and failures, asked me for advice on how to avoid being daily conditioned by this enormous gap that affects us all.

  • Mental Preparation: Let go of all negative (or positive) thoughts about women, not being misogynistic, nor a doormat; start thinking your life could be without a woman by your side. Maybe for most of you, this won't be the case, but acknowledging a possible reality isn't harmful.
  • Behavioral Preparation: Don't try to directly approach any girl. No initiatives on chat, Facebook, WhatsApp. Only respond if sought out. Never ask for a number on the street, never try an approach. But don't isolate yourself, go out with friends and do outdoor activities. Every day you don't act like a B2 perceived doormat will be a victory.
  • Physical Preparation: Your sexuality will rebel, force you to try with women despite failures, evident ugliness, and various issues. Manage sexuality in a modern, contemporary, prejudice-free way. If someone wants you, and you don't try, good for you, you'll have sex, maybe you're even quite handsome. Don't fall into the trap of following your biology; just as female hypergamy is due to overexposure to alpha models, we are overexposed to female images and in reality desire much more than we need"
And this was from his much bigger ALBA theory:
The name ALBA comes from the acronym for ALpha-BetA: women choose men based on alpha-perception, which depends on culture, genetics, fashion, and times. Ugliness doesn't help because an ugly man is beta-perceived, meaning he's seen as unsuitable for reproduction.

Here are the categories of alpha-perceived males:
  • A0: Men who are like gods, football players, or messiahs. This is a special category as they are extremely rare, men that 99% of women will never have. Hence, it's numbered with a zero.
  • A1: Very handsome, charismatic men who always have one or two relationships, true men, tough, and they make women suffer. They are the quintessential seducers.
  • A2: Very handsome men whose excessive beauty is their status of alpha-perception. They are wanted no matter what they do.
  • A3: Men who are either handsome or not, very determined and confident, generally rich or well-off. They usually marry a very beautiful woman and are somewhat faithful to her. They have women proportional to their beauty, often with good hypergamy.
  • A4: Intense, very passionate, determined, romantic, and heroic men. In contemporary times, they still have prominent beauty.
  • A5: Generally ugly but rich, exploitative, or manipulative men. They have no respect for women, who drool over them. The strongest even defeat A1s, but not A0s.
  • A6: Men with great artistic and communicative abilities. Singers, dancers, entertainers in general. Less commonly, intellectual artists.
  • A7: Violent, ignorant, vulgar men. Women adore them and joyfully accept violence from them

    Beta-perceived Males:
    • B1: Handsome or very cute men, but essentially weak, they go from one relationship to another because they're insecure and unstable. Women like them at first but leave them shortly after.
    • B2: Generally nice and cute men, sociable, boy scout types, generous. They have good rapport with women but remain just friends. Friendzoners. Women tend to despise B2s, and when they get into relationships with them, they usually just want to cheat.
    • B3: Neither beautiful nor ugly, neither smart nor stupid. Average men. B3s make up 50% of the male population and generally have few relationships, marrying whoever they find. Women cheat on them with alphas after several years of relationship.
    • B4: Unstable, exotic, whiny, and troubled men, artists, singers, painters of no fame or value. They are similar to A4s but, living in a fairy tale world, are generally discarded by women due to objective ugliness.
    • B5: Men genetically destined for solitude. Wrong social dynamics, tendency towards isolation, objective ugliness. Emotional problems from childhood. Intellectuals and paranoiacs, inconsistent.
    • B6: Truly ugly men. A man is B6-perceived when a woman remembers him only for his ugliness. Aesthetic level <4.
    • B7: Isolated men, with severe social problems even in friendships and acquaintances. Their condition can prevent them from being part of a group or doing simple things. Objectively ugly
So much bullshit for what?

Apparently after a year of this approach, you gain several benefits.
Your body will have fewer harmful substances, and people around you will respect you more since you’re not chasing around for clout and attention.
You’ll understand that being clingy or overly submissive or trying to be funny like me where it just leads to making being fun of doesn’t lead to success...or any kind of attention.

This method also gives you a clear idea of your attractiveness. Posting photos on social media without initiating contact lets you see if others reach out naturally. If no one does after a year, it’s a reliable indicator of how you’re perceived (it is what i say since forever, if what you think it is the truth, the fucking universe will slap it on your face every time!)

You’ll become more resilient, focused, and confident, handling challenges better and concentrating on work or studies. Additionally, seeing an escort occasionally teaches your body to associate sex with a reward based on your efforts, not someone else’s approval!
 
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WP is just acceptancepill and be happy (crucial difference to BPers who wallow in self-pity imo) Like I get that. But I genuinely feel it should be more revolutionary because it accepts circumstances today which weren't always the case.

You don't need to be an epicurean stoic nowadays to escape modern hell, if you geomaxxx in some village in Egypt. You can be a normie and equally get happiness alongside material, worldly pleasure.

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Concise and clear for you to understand: BOTH pills are important because they are a duality just as chaos-order, good-bad, masculine-femenine, etc. Whitepill is about constantly transforming yourself and your understanding of the world so that you become greater than fear and pain. Blackpill is about the dark realities of this life, the dark reminder of the world we live in; the world of ego. And with of all that integrated come the respective courses of action:

Do you want to be a scientist? Then do it.

Do you want to geomaxx? Then do it.

Do you want to cause chaos? Then do it.

It is all about embracing who we are until there is nothing left of us. When there is nothing left of us we realize we do not exist, we are pure illusion in the sense of the "permanent" identity we create of ourselves, and from such comes enlightment and we end up breaking from the Blackpill and the Whitepill. Because being blackpilled or being whitepilled is attachment, attachment to apparently permanent states of being, and identification with those brings suffering. Free of attachment, free of suffering.

The Whitepill is just a mean, but not the end. The Blackpill is just a mean, but not the end.

The end is true liberation from the Whitepill and the Blackpill.
 
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