Essay "No more bribes from life I accept! Wait... What did I just said?"

[Two-jay]

Oh, my machine, my human body! It wishes for everything, and everything. There is nothing to wish for! Nothing! Everything is based on craving pleasure and craving the disappearance of pain. Amazing? You know... we are here in this machine, and I want to tell you guys that there is something to do! But that's just my stupid desire to "free" people, a simple psychological projection. To bring them "liberation", but from what? There is nothing to be freed from, if anything, free me from life rather! LIFE IS A BIG SCAM! Wait! Is it? Life just is people, there is nothing to do. Life is just being, so we have to be because there is nothing else to do. There is nothing to do, LOL. Nothing, than just be and simply wait for death, lol.

What is the need to enlighten myself? I mean, I was not born saying “I want to get enlightened! I want to get enlightened! I want to get enlightened!" No! I didn't even ask to be born, so much trouble with life, oh my god! What a hassle one gets into, wishing so much... I don't even want peace, that's false. Genius I am! Look! Another desire! Damn. There is no escape after all from the machine of desire. But maybe saying that "there is no escape after all from the machine of desire” attaches me to a certain way of thinking that will not let me escape, but hey! I see the desilusion... I still see you want to escape after all ego! HAHAHAHA.

Enough of your bribes, life! Don't bribe me with love, sex, money, power, altered states of consciousness, validation, titles, knowledge, hate, this and that, no more! More is needed for me to truly love you: that you allow me to free others. Damn! Again, another desire... Even "wanting to liberate others" is a desire. Eh! And why love life? Only a human would do such a stupid thing. It doesn't matter if you love it or hate it; nothing changes. Pure mental constructions arising... again!

Tremendous bribery that plays with our lives. It is there in the nothingness where true peace is. Everything else—the good and the bad— only disturb the peace. But see me there again, wishing for peace. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! I CAN'T ESCAPE! There is no need to escape, dude. Nobody escapes from here, because nobody exists. That is pure illusion. What is there to escape from? From f*cking nothing!

“The meaning of life is X”. So what do you want me to do? Applaud you? Don't bother people and let them live. What a stupid question ‘what is the meaning of life?’. Product of a sick hypercapitalistic society where everything is about consoooooming!

Cheers,

 

[Two-jay]

@fatcel_3000

 

[Two-jay]

@GGWP, just lol at my essays.

 

[newsincerity]

now that's perversion

 

[GGWP]

@GGWP, just lol at my essays.

They're good essays, man. It's characterization. You are miles ahead in spiritual development compared to a someone that doesn't think to articulate their own thoughts at all. I think most people just live off of vague heuristics because it's all they need, but tackling the big questions means that you're engaging in introspection, which is important.

You're right in that life It's one desire after another, an endless samsara of desire. You're completely correct in identifying that Capitalism subordinates these desires and sells them out to you. But such desires are just biological, there is another 'us' in the mind that can reflect on desires and alter their course, and also that can observe these desires as they float by. I think meditation is a way to strengthen areas of the brain involved in regulating base desires, allowing humans to use the one unique tool at their disposal to fight against brutal nature: the advanced human mind.

Pure meditation could allow us to connect to God or enlightenment, which is to do with complete control and understanding of one's own internal desires. In the hierarchical model of consciousness, this is identified as the overmind. I'm terrible at meditation because of my overly scientific mind, always trying to intellectualize suffering. I think though that you might be able to achieve this transcendent state because you are not obsessed with projecting scientific concepts onto the formless natural world like I am, and that if you keep at it you might find that, after a little while that mind of yours will clear its doubts, and you'll be able to grasp something profound about the world that could just change your life for the better.

 

[newsincerity]

They're good essays, man. It's characterization. You are miles ahead in spiritual development compared to a someone that doesn't think to articulate their own thoughts at all. I think most people just live off of vague heuristics because it's all they need, but tackling the big questions means that you're engaging in introspection, which is important.

You're right in that life It's one desire after another, an endless samsara of desire. You're completely correct in identifying that Capitalism subordinates these desires and sells them out to you. But such desires are just biological, there is another 'us' in the mind that can reflect on desires and alter their course, and also that can observe these desires as they float by. I think meditation is a way to strengthen areas of the brain involved in regulating base desires, allowing humans to use the one unique tool at their disposal to fight against brutal nature: the advanced human mind.

Pure meditation could allow us to connect to God or enlightenment, which is to do with complete control and understanding of one's own internal desires. In the hierarchical model of consciousness, this is identified as the overmind. I'm terrible at meditation because of my overly scientific mind, always trying to intellectualize suffering. I think though that you might be able to achieve this transcendent state because you are not obsessed with projecting scientific concepts onto the formless natural world like I am, and that if you keep at it you might find that, after a little while that mind of yours will clear its doubts, and you'll be able to grasp something profound about the world that could just change your life for the better.

you're maybe right
from where I stand it's just mind trying to "win" against the mind and spouting nonesense
if he's able to step outside the trappings of his mind with meditation or something he might get somewhere

I wish you well OP

 

[newsincerity]

you're maybe right
from where I stand it's just mind trying to "win" against the mind and spouting nonesense
if he's able to step outside the trappings of his mind with meditation or something he might get somewhere

I wish you well OP

I want to believe meditation is not empty pleasure chasing

 

[newsincerity]

You are miles ahead in spiritual development compared to a someone that doesn't think to articulate their own thoughts at all.

there is no way to gauge that as an outsider
an empty pat on the back

he's likely worse off than when he started because he has to constantly justify borrowed beliefs and live up to expectations that his ego puts on himself causing more suffering and more need for escapism

 

[Two-jay]

there is no way to gauge that as an outsider
an empty pat on the back

he's likely worse off than when he started because he has to constantly justify borrowed beliefs and live up to expectations that his ego puts on himself causing more suffering and more need for escapism

It is not so complicated dude. We are just hairless apes trying to survive on a rock in the middle of nowhere.

Just meditate for the sake of it. It can be really pleasurable sometimes. I guess that if you don't do anything, your brain will automatically generate pleasure without the need of doing something.

It really reminds me of this Cioran's quote:

 

[newsincerity]

It is not so complicated dude. We are just hairless apes trying to survive on a rock in the middle of nowhere.

Just meditate for the sake of it. It can be really pleasurable sometimes. I guess that if you don't do anything, your brain will automatically generate pleasure without the need of doing something.

It really reminds me of this Cioran's quote:
View attachment 7806

just gorillamax bro

 

[Two-jay]

just gorillamax bro

So... What's your point?

 

[GGWP]

there is no way to gauge that as an outsider
an empty pat on the back

he's likely worse off than when he started because he has to constantly justify borrowed beliefs and live up to expectations that his ego puts on himself causing more suffering and more need for escapism

What do you believe the most optimal set of beliefs and practices are?

 

[Tabula Rasa]

just gorillamax bro

true but unironically

 

[newsincerity]

It is not so complic....

let me rephrase that:

It is not so complicated.. We are the ultimate beings made in the image of God occupying flat earth in the centre of creatiom and free the shape the world as we see fit.

I won't recommend you do anything for I respect your unique consciousness and sovereignty as the divine ray of light emanating from the infinite Creator and I don't wish to intrude upon your path and change it. Life is full of pleasure and we are more blessed than we can imagine. Inaction is a sin stemming from ignorance. We're here to take action and enact our will.

It really reminds me of this quote from the Bible


Genesis 1:27:
"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them."
Psalm 8:4-6,
"What is man that you are mindful of him, and the son of man that you care for him? Yet you have made him a little lower than God, and crowned him with glory and honor. You have given him dominion over the works of your hands; you have put all things under his feet,".

 

[newsincerity]

What do you believe the most optimal set of beliefs and practices are?

none

whatever you are serious about you do what works to get there and ignore the noise

 

[Two-jay]

let me rephrase that

So just another evolutionary strategy for survival, adaptation and coping no different from Buddhism... Got it.

There is no free will. The self is an illusion. Meditation will easily allow you to see that. Just shut off your default mode network enough and it will be clear as water. Anything else?

 

[newsincerity]

So just another evolutionary strategy for survival, adaptation and coping no different from Buddhism... Got it.

There is no free will. The self is an illusion. Meditation will easily allow you to see that. Just shut off your default mode network enough and it will be clear as water. Anything else?

no

I don't even read the bible
I wanted to give you a contrarian view to let you see how absurd your own beliefs are

 

[Two-jay]

no

I don't even read the bible
I wanted to give you a contrarian view to let you see how absurd your own beliefs are

What are those beliefs you are attacking in the first place?

That both of those are extremes?

That both of those are sides of the same coin?

Is that your point?

If so, I agree. I think I had already discussed that point with GGWP in another thread.

If anything, I think that what you are pointing at is "non-duality".

 

[newsincerity]

What are those beliefs you are attacking in the first place?

That both of those are extremes?

That both of those are sides of the same coin?

Is that your point?

If so, I agree. I think I had already discussed that point with GGWP in another thread.

If anything, I think that what you are pointing at is "non-duality".

there is no point in fighting nature's conditioning while ignoring the elephant in the room that is social conditioning where these beliefs stem from would be my point

 

[Two-jay]

there is no point in fighting nature's conditioning while ignoring the elephant in the room that is social conditioning where these beliefs stem from would be my point

Fuck you. Fuck your post. Fuck your questioning. Fuck your words. Fuck your question. Fuck you, fuck you, and fuck you. Yes, thank you!

FUCK YOU!