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I would like some opinion if the arguments I put forth were at all cogent.
The Whitepill operates on the premise that the Blackpill is true. If the Blackpill describes reality accurately, the Whitepill extends the Blackpill by prescribing behavior. If one is Blackpilled, the Whitepill goes further by suggesting that an individual should maximise happiness for themself and finding the most optimal lifestyle in response to their circumstances.
It doesn't extend shit as it doesn't propose anything
From what I understand you are a Blackpiller? Then you would agree that the Blackpill proposes a genetically deterministic worldview where looks are the primary factor in regards to sexual attractiveness.
The Whitepill is dependent on the Blackpill, and operates on the same worldview. If the Blackpill is an accurate description of reality, the Whitepill, while based on the same assumptions of the Blackpill, instead of describing reality proposes (or prescribes) individual behavior in response to these assumptions.
Ye so it doesn't propose anything, the blackpill isn't a genetically deterministic worldview (that's your fabrication), it's just that social dynamics are primarily based on looks, the way you operate around this worldview is thru looksmaxxing which proposes the idea that looks are alterable (water)
Whitepill therefore does not mean anything, since looksmaxxing would the be whitepill according to your definition, nor serves any purpose
My suggesting that the Blackpill has ties to the notion of genetic determinism isn't some novel fabrication of mine, it's a concept that has been long-discussed within Blackpill and incel communities extensively, and why wouldn't it, when looks are part of the swath of genetically pre-determined traits which dictate social and romantic success.
But let's say for your sake that we use your more simplified and to the point definition. Even the Incel Wiki notes that the idea of genetic determinism is only an extended definition of the Blackpill, and not part of the core proposal of the Blackpill (that socio-sexual dynamics are based around physical attractiveness).
You use the phrase 'the way you operate around this worldview'. If the Blackpill proposes that social dynamics are primarily based on looks, why should one looksmax? What was proposed is a description of reality -- raw information. An individual can do any number of things in response to this information. They could looksmax, like you've said, or maybe they'd opt to become a hermit or monk. Perhaps they'd decide to live a life of hedonism and wantonness, or even make plans to end their own life. Or they could just simply go about their day without a care in the world.
With your definition, you are prescribing a positive judgemental action/behavior, being that one should looksmax. Looksmaxxing does not 'propose' anything, it is a neutral action. The Whitepill likewise prescribes behavior, but expands it more broadly than just looksmaxxing.
A bunch of nothing, you're still not saying what the whitepill proposes
Looksmaxing isn't to sustain a hedonistic lifestyle, it's to stop the useless suffering that comes with being ugly, which is what salvation is about : reducing suffering
It looks like you didn't understand my argument which you'd see if you read it carefully. I never said that looksmaxxing was hedonistic, you just latched onto the word and made your own assumptions without going through the paragraph.
Here's what I was trying to explain more succinctly. The Blackpill is raw information, like you've said, 'social dynamics are primarily based on looks'. However, one can react in anyway in response to this information, which can include looksmaxxing, as well as living a hedonistic lifestyle, among a myriad of other things.
A bunch of nothing, how about you tell me what the whitepill proposes positively (it means proactively) instead of saying "a behaviour beyond just looksmaxxing" over and over
I'd prefer it if you'd not argue so disingenuously by insulting and making no attempt to understand my position, but I'll take the bait.
That you're waving away my previous responses and condensing it to 'a behaviour beyond just looksmaxxing' shows that you have a hazy idea of what I'm explaining. The Blackpill is raw information, they are observations about the world we are living in. The Whitepill agrees with the same premises of the Blackpill.
The Whitepill however, further proposes that a person should maximise happiness for themself.
Wtf are you saying, acting like a fed up educator or some shit
The point here is to define something and YOU CANT DEFINE IT, you're not EXPLAINING WHAT IT IS, "you have a hazy idea" ye no shit since you don't even know what you're trying to define
The Whitepill proposes that a person should maximise happiness for themself.
GROUND BREAKING THEORY, SO DEEP ! !