LOL San Diego shooter was a femboy lover

[Depresso]

"you seem protective about Mishima" a limp wristed attempt to psychologize me out of the argument, implying my pushback is emotional rather than logical?

Yes, you are and were, you dismissed my quotes as "ancestral". They guy's writing love letters to death and then refused to let go of it! If Mishima found out, how would the conversation go? It would have been a macabre mirror for him. A true plot failure for our author!

While you sit here and continue to circle and drive the same point on two people while I bring up person after person, event after event disproving your ideas but those two yes they are where the conversation begins and ends for you.

You have failed to make sufficient links to your points for every one of them. I could flood the thread but as you said, you will not budge so there's no point for that. It saves me the homework of pulling together literal quotes and other analyses.

We can agree to disagree.

 

[Schwarzwald]

Thank you for conceding.

If the theory applies to everyone then it explains nothing

a theory that explains every case without exception isn't a theory, it's just a label.

You just said "all people who die for a cause were suicidal AND delusional"

which strips agency from literally every martyr, soldier, protester, and revolutionary in human history.

At that point the framework is so broad it's useless.

You painted yourself into a corner with that last line.

Comical that you though it was such a dunk that you added a little wrestler gif...

 

[Depresso]

a theory that explains every case without exception isn't a theory, it's just a label.

Gravity's a label theory.

You just said "all people who die for a cause were suicidal AND delusional"

No I did not, please reread.

which strips agency from literally every martyr, soldier, protester, and revolutionary in human history.

Please reread again. If an already suicidal person joins the military, they did not really "risk" the death. Their contribution is not in vain but they did not risk it like the other joiners who still want to live after their career.

 

[Depresso]

If the theory applies to everyone then it explains nothing

Are you doing this because you want to win an argument at any cost? You've clearly misread my statement here.

You always had the option to steelman it.