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Personal Experience Self-narrative: the main cause of suffering.

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Some time ago, I wrote here about the fragility of identity:
There is no "Whitepill" to be found here. Everything that I wrote about above? Bullshit. If so, it should make you all be more pessimistic because our lives are constanly hanging from a thread stretched over the abyss although I guess this is pretty evident for you all by now. Identity is a fragile construct. Pain is a mechanism that encourages the emergence of mental narratives with the sole purpose of providing an explanation for why something is happening in relation to the past, and as such, it is what gives rise to neurosis purely propagated by thought. Therefore, personal history is an empty construct because it depends on pure interpretations given to memories, where interpretations form the so-called “personal narrative” that revolves around an “I.”​

As I see it, when something is painful the mind creates a story so that it can explain what is happening regarding the subject and its surroundings. This is pretty much an automatic thing for the mind, this means that the definition that a person gives to himself in relation to the pain he experiences tends to happen at the unconscious level most of the time. Anything, absolutely anything works for the mind in order to try to explain what is happening and why, and thus we see the appearance of very self-damaging narratives such as "I do not deserve love" and such. The thing is that language has an enormous influence in the unconscious mind, and hence it influences behaviour on a very deep level.

If we part on the premise that we live in a cold and uncaring world, then this means that there is no meaning to anything, but pure interpretations of phenomena. Thus everything finds itself of essence. This is the power that I think we all should know, to better employ this capacity for abstract thinking so that it doesn't fire back at us. It is incredible to think that the mind gives an utmost importance to language when it should be instead, a tool for navigating life. It is all about the story you tell yourself deep down. Depending on the story you tell yourself about you and the world, you will determine how much is the degree of your suffering.

Avoid making of language an ultimate reality, and find peace.

 
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Your post reminds me of what I wrote about incels here and here.

The Game is a mind game in which the objective is to avoid thinking about The Game itself. Thinking about The Game constitutes a loss, which must be announced each time it occurs. It is impossible to win most versions of The Game. Depending on the variation, it is held all over the world, or all those who are aware of the game, are playing it at all times. Tactics have been developed to increase the number of people who are aware of The Game, and thereby increase the number of losses.
Incels are only incels when they are thinking about their state as incels, it's the only time they feel the pain of their identity. Women can't be incels by the way :smile:

This is the power that I think we all should know, to better employ this capacity for abstract thinking so that it doesn't fire back at us.
I think meditation is going to be big in the future because there will be so many fake games and ragebait to clean out.

Avoid making of language an ultimate reality, and find peace.
Truth.
 
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Incels are only incels when they are thinking about their state as incels, it's the only time they feel the pain of their identity.

True, but the pain also gives us license to terror. I cant support cloning and transhumanism without thinking in inceldom first. I cant reject /pol/ without "being" a incel. I cant absolve myself of civilizational collapse without being denied sex.
So it is a double-edged sword. It can be useful since it takes you out of certain circlejerks, but it can also put you inside other circlejerks, which are as harmful as the previous ones. Use the language with moderation.
 
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