Personal Experience Some personal thoughts (A statement of intent)

[Tabula Rasa]

I'm a schizoid misanthrope who has more or less checked out of the game, but those who are still playing might find what I say or the whole concept of the Whitepill insensitive or insulting. I've talked in previous threads about the nature of female desire and how it's ultimately rooted in reproductive urges or psychologically conditioned by new media.

But if incels are so repulsive to women, they'd either be treated as a doormat or an ATM if they managed to 'ascend'' (Heck, if this is already an occurrence which average men experience it's almost guaranteed to happen if someone is sub-5).

Some incels are expecting to ascend and end up in some sort of Disney unicorn relationship where a femoid is going to end up 'loving them for who they really are' when it's pretty clear that it doesn't exist in real life.

It's why I advocate men living for themselves and not for the sake of women. But if they want to continue to cry about how 'women won't love them because they aren't Chad' or whatever who am I to stop them from continuing to do so?

 

[Loner]

Living for themselves and not for the sake of women

I'm afraid this is something most young men will never grasp due to deep rooted biological programming and societal conditioning

Having a foid is like a status boost and social proof, so a man who is unsuccessful with them will always be looked at as some kind of pariah, regardless if they'd even be happy with one or not.

 

[Mentalatte]

I'm a schizoid misanthrope who has more or less checked out of the game, but those who are still playing might find what I say or the whole concept of the Whitepill insensitive or insulting. I've talked in previous threads about the nature of female desire and how it's ultimately rooted in reproductive urges or psychologically conditioned by new media.

But if incels are so repulsive to women, they'd either be treated as a doormat or an ATM if they managed to 'ascend'' (Heck, if this is already an occurrence which average men experience it's almost guaranteed to happen if someone is sub-5).

Some incels are expecting to ascend and end up in some sort of Disney unicorn relationship where a femoid is going to end up 'loving them for who they really are' when it's pretty clear that it doesn't exist in real life.

It's why I advocate men living for themselves and not for the sake of women. But if they want to continue to cry about how 'women won't love them because they aren't Chad' or whatever who am I to stop them from continuing to do so?

I respect your personal beliefs and choices.

 

[Mentalatte]

But if incels are so repulsive to women, they'd either be treated as a doormat or an ATM if they managed to 'ascend'' (Heck, if this is already an occurrence which average men experience it's almost guaranteed to happen if someone is sub-5).

What advice does the white pill have for men who are treated like dark triad sex objects and then tossed aside?

 

[Tabula Rasa]

What advice does the white pill have for men who are treated like dark triad sex objects and then tossed aside?

The Whitepill itself doesn't provide specific advice, it provides general advice for all Blackpilled men. I don't have anything to say myself about that however because I personally have never been in that situation.

 

[Mentalatte]

It's why I advocate men living for themselves and not for the sake of women.

Good advice.

What do you think about self-love?

 

[Tabula Rasa]

Good advice.

What do you think about self-love?

T @twojei could probably tell you all about that, but yeah it can be beneficial.

 

[Mentalatte]

Some incels are expecting to ascend and end up in some sort of Disney unicorn relationship where a femoid is going to end up 'loving them for who they really are' when it's pretty clear that it doesn't exist in real life.

Relationships require maintenance so "Disney unicorn relationships" don't really exist in real life. Sometimes the partner doesn't contribute leaving you the sole maintainer.

 

[Tabula Rasa]

Relationships require maintenance so "Disney unicorn relationships" don't really exist in real life. Sometimes the partner doesn't contribute leaving you the sole maintainer.

The main point was about attraction.

 

[Mentalatte]

The main point was about attraction.

Solving that only leads you to the next problem.

 

[Tabula Rasa]

Solving that only leads you to the next problem.

Incels don't make it past the first hurdle lol

 

[Mentalatte]

Incels don't make it past the first hurdle lol

There are far worse conditions then being an "incel" lol

 

[Tabula Rasa]

There are far worse conditions then being an "incel" lol

True

 

[Enju]

Sub-8 theory is a brutal truth. Women are unable to find the majority of men without perfect bone structure suitable for reproduction. Our brains haven’t evolved to accommodate the modern world so women are still under the impression that this will help our species. Most men are imprisoned by their urges to reproduce, so I don’t really blame them if they desire a relationship. Even I get caught up in those thoughts from time to time, despite being knowledgeable of the BP.

I’m not really sure there is a good cope for this. I suppose you could constantly distract yourself with copes. Another thing that helps is jerking off as soon as the thoughts of wanting to ascend come up. Maybe sex robots will eventually become a thing and hyper realistic enough to be a substitute for actual women.

But it truly kills any motivation i have to do anything. Being under the impression that you’re loved when you come home from a long day of wageslaving for your kids and family, would give me purpose. The patriarchy was important to control female hypergamy, now that it’s been destroyed and the nuclear family is no more, we’re really in societal end times. More men will continue to check out

 

[Mentalatte]

Sub-8 theory is a brutal truth. Women are unable to find the majority of men without perfect bone structure suitable for reproduction. Our brains haven’t evolved to accommodate the modern world so women are still under the impression that this will help our species. Most men are imprisoned by their urges to reproduce, so I don’t really blame them if they desire a relationship. Even I get caught up in those thoughts from time to time, despite being knowledgeable of the BP.

I’m not really sure there is a good cope for this. I suppose you could constantly distract yourself with copes. Another thing that helps is jerking off as soon as the thoughts of wanting to ascend come up. Maybe sex robots will eventually become a thing and hyper realistic enough to be a substitute for actual women.

But it truly kills any motivation i have to do anything. Being under the impression that you’re loved when you come home from a long day of wageslaving for your kids and family, would give me purpose. The patriarchy was important to control female hypergamy, now that it’s been destroyed and the nuclear family is no more, we’re really in societal end times. More men will continue to check out

Sub-8 theory is a brutal truth cope.

 

[Tabula Rasa]

Sub-8 theory is a brutal truth. Women are unable to find the majority of men without perfect bone structure suitable for reproduction. Our brains haven’t evolved to accommodate the modern world so women are still under the impression that this will help our species. Most men are imprisoned by their urges to reproduce, so I don’t really blame them if they desire a relationship. Even I get caught up in those thoughts from time to time, despite being knowledgeable of the BP.

I’m not really sure there is a good cope for this. I suppose you could constantly distract yourself with copes. Another thing that helps is jerking off as soon as the thoughts of wanting to ascend come up. Maybe sex robots will eventually become a thing and hyper realistic enough to be a substitute for actual women.

But it truly kills any motivation i have to do anything. Being under the impression that you’re loved when you come home from a long day of wageslaving for your kids and family, would give me purpose. The patriarchy was important to control female hypergamy, now that it’s been destroyed and the nuclear family is no more, we’re really in societal end times. More men will continue to check out

I think if one is fully Blackpilled, you just lose desire for and stop pedestalizing women. Relationships are just part of a social contract or a means to secure reproduction.

 

[Enju]

I think if one is fully Blackpilled, you just lose desire for and stop pedestalizing women. Relationships are just part of a social contract or a means to secure reproduction.

I agree. In fact, when I see women in public, i never imagine being in relationships with them. But the biological urge to reproduce can’t really be subdued. Your libido plays a factor in your ability to suppress your desire for women.

 

[Tabula Rasa]

But the biological urge to reproduce can’t really be subdued. Your libido plays a factor in your ability to suppress your desire for women.

Yeah that's why guys should jack off or fuck scorts. It's only a temporary feeling. Or if they're not incel they shouldn't commit.

 

[bell]

I think if one is fully Blackpilled, you just lose desire for and stop pedestalizing women. Relationships are just part of a social contract or a means to secure reproduction.

There's more to it than that. I'd imagine a relationship would be nice if there was the possibility of being understood by a woman. That's probably rare though, most relationships aren't on entirely equal footing.

 

[Enju]

being understood by a woman

Women would rather gaslight you than try to understand your problems

 

[incelkingkong]

the thought that you can fully rationalize and know how women work and what they are making you free of their influence on you is wrong imo
subconscious controls as much as conscious does imo and the fact if you're ugly you'll be companionship-less for life will gnaw away at your being slowly no matter how many escorts you fuck unless you're genuinely mentally ill and don't experience any joy from human interaction which a man needs from both genders, not only male. also all your male companionship will drift away as you age due to life obligations, so you'll just end up being fully isolated eventually.
so yeah you might feel like checking out is the winning play but there really is no winning play it's all just damage control if you are truly hardstuck being a low-value* male with no potential. which isn't wrong inherently, damage control/minimizing suffering is a key part of life

 

[Tabula Rasa]

the thought that you can fully rationalize and know how women work and what they are making you free of their influence on you is wrong imo
subconscious controls as much as conscious does imo and the fact if you're ugly you'll be companionship-less for life will gnaw away at your being slowly no matter how many escorts you fuck unless you're genuinely mentally ill and don't experience any joy from human interaction which a man needs from both genders, not only male. also all your male companionship will drift away as you age due to life obligations, so you'll just end up being fully isolated eventually.

Debatable. I don't think humans are naturally monogamous.

so yeah you might feel like checking out is the winning play but there really is no winning play it's all just damage control if you are truly hardstuck being a low-status male with no potential. which isn't wrong inherently, damage control/minimizing suffering is a key part of life

Agree.

 

[incelkingkong]

Debatable. I don't think humans are naturally monogamous.

its less about the numbers. its more about that it's very important that there was atleast more than 0 women in your life who displayed genuine affection towards you (mutual) at some point for a prolonged period of time, without being interested in you for your status or money. this is just what my intuition tells me though. that experience is important for your subconscious for you to remain mentally sane and progress in life in a somewhat healthy pace. if you did get that, then there is some merit in escortmaxxing as you aren't trying to fill the void of that experience, but it's more like an entertainment thing and less of a cope thing.

 

[Enju]

its more about that it's very important that there was atleast more than 0 women in your life who displayed genuine affection towards you (mutual) at some point for a prolonged period of time, without being interested in you for your status or money.

If women werent trying to hint that they liked you, or even directly asking you out AT LEAST once in school, it’s over. This is the sign of an undesirable man who has a future of betacucking awaiting him if he manages to “ascend”

 

[Tabula Rasa]

its less about the numbers. its more about that it's very important that there was atleast more than 0 women in your life who displayed genuine affection towards you (mutual) at some point for a prolonged period of time, without being interested in you for your status or money. this is just what my intuition tells me though. that experience is important for your subconscious for you to remain mentally sane and progress in a life in a somewhat healthy pace. if you did get that, then there is some merit in escortmaxxing as you aren't trying to fill the void of that experience, but it's more like an entertainment thing and less of a cope thing.

Looks like we're delving into the subject of human psychology here. It would be useful to pinpoint where such inclinations originate from if they exist. I've always surmised that these subconscious yearnings were something that have been psychologically conditioned by society and new media, and are essentially spooks left over from oversocialization. They don't actually have any basis in reality. All that matters is reproduction.