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[Sovereign]

What has your experience been within the education system of your country?

As a youth I attended kindergarten from the time I started and ended I do not remember, but my time there was spent mainly on arts and craft, songs & rhymes, I did get into trouble once for pushing a girl and hiding behind the bushes. I was held back during this period of my youth. I remember once saying aloud "I miss my home". School for me at that age was simple; I got into trouble, however it was lowly matters. Once I pulled a young mans shirt back & forth- I meant no harm I simply meant to pull him back and forth like a cartoon character. Life changed once I entered elementary school which was wealthy, I was bullied and I felt isolated and alone for much of my time there, so much so I transitioned to a public to a charter school which the experience was no better. My teachers were very rude and I was bullied still. Oddly, it seemed my behavior was different so to speak but that I acted in a care free manner with no regard to its consequences; I was only aware enough to avoid trouble and authority, soon people would be added to the mix.

My performance as a student was at the retarded level, I went to special classes to help me in reading comprehension which helped and I was proud of it. For most of my life my academic life was sluggish, retarded and backwards, my performance overall was and is till this day is mediocre. I haven't an intellect well developed or defined, I am only aware enough (as Caesar said from Fallout or somewhere along the lines) "there is useful information in old books", hence I am well aware that whatever is hidden from the eyes is worth finding.

This should suffice for now, let me know what your experience were like.

 

[Deleted member 52]

I performed well academics wise, especially standardized testing

I was very lazy, ditched class a lot, just waited to come home and watch anime/play games/rot on internet

Was pretty isolated. Starting middle school I was outcasted, most students disliked me and tbh I disliked them. It never really bothered me at the time.
I was bullied for a while in early middle school but I’d have sperg rage and fight back so it stopped

I was definitely a loser even after though. I don’t have any friends I talked to after graduation. As for the few friends I did have, we never even really liked each other. I was outcasted from the group and never talked to them outside of school while they’d text each other. I think I just hung around them when bored

Don’t think I got much female attention but didn’t give a shit until like my senior year where I was never in class anyway. My reputation was of like a complete asshole too, so if I ever showed interest in a girl people would be shocked and she’d think I had some bad intention.

I always did retarded shit/had a very brash personality which got me into trouble. Teachers hated me.

I didn’t like school much back then, but now I wish I could go back. I hate being oldcel now.

 

[Sovereign]

I performed well academics wise, especially standardized testing

I was very lazy, ditched class a lot, just waited to come home and watch anime/play games/rot on internet

Was pretty isolated. Starting middle school I was outcasted, most students disliked me and tbh I disliked them. It never really bothered me at the time.
I was bullied for a while in early middle school but I’d have sperg rage and fight back so it stopped

I was definitely a loser even after though. I don’t have any friends I talked to after graduation, and the few “friends” that I did have: we didn’t even really like each other. I was especially outcasted from the group and never talked to them outside of school while they’d text. I think I just hung around them when bored

Don’t think I got much female attention but didn’t give a shit until like my senior year where I was never in class anyway. My reputation was of like a complete asshole too, so if I ever showed interest in a girl people would be shocked and she’d think I had some bad intention.

I always did retarded shit/had a very brash personality which got me into trouble. Teachers hated me.

I didn’t like school much back then, but now I wish I could go back. I hate being oldcel now.

How did the school system operate for you where you are from?

Did you socialize and then self-isolate or was most of your time spent alone with minimal interactions?

Did you feel restricted by school or free in any way?

When you observed others what did you notice?

 

[Deleted member 52]

How did the school system operate for you where you are from?

American public school, so fairly typical on here I’m sure.
It wasn’t super strict and most aspects about the specific classes were left up to the teachers. Teachers were pretty lazy though
Fairly laid back compared to private/non American schools. Administration rarely got involved unless you were a troublemaker or sperg
I would fall in both, but my academic performance was good so they didn’t really care about the latter.
Very academic oriented school

You could pick your own classes and stuff to an extent. You got placed in a math level based off of skill, and generally could choose between honors/AP/normal version of class. Then had some electives where you could take whatever

Did you socialize and then self-isolate or was most of your time spent alone with minimal interactions?

I became more isolated as time passed. By the time I graduated I was almost a complete recluse

I never really did things like go out with friends or go to parties. I did use to ditch class and walk to eat at this place nearby with some other guy, but mainly cuz he’d pay for me always lol

I would socialize to kill time in classes or during lunch but I’d prefer to use my phone or some computer over it. The times I went out of my way to socialize was usually to be an asshole

Most of my time was definitely spent alone

Did you feel restricted by school or free in any way?

Restricted for sure at the time, but looking back it was pretty free
I did whatever I wanted personally, I’d often go to the library and use a computer to just rot there or leave class and go to some place nearby. I sometimes brought portable games to school and played

When you observed others what did you notice?

I could write a huge essay on this lol, a lot

I think the main thing that stuck out to me at the time was a lot of gay social rules
Being non NT, I didn’t get them at first (things like fashion norms) and I’d get shit for it. I noticed that I was sort of an in between though, definitely an outsider but I had a better understanding of how normies worked than the other non NTs. I remember I had this other sperg friend, and we’d say dumb shit together, I’d know when to get out and avoid trouble but he wouldn’t for example

One thing I realized is that people pick a group/groups they belong to and curate all of their responses and reactions based off of that. There were a lot of Asians at my school, and it’s eerie how similar Asian Americans are nationwide, I can recognize when someone is one even on the internet for example

I know that people here like to discuss dating/romance dynamics, but I was completely disconnected from this and had no idea

There were definitely a lot of subtle blackpills though, social hierarchy wise

 

[Sovereign]

American public school, so fairly typical on here I’m sure.
It wasn’t super strict and most aspects about the specific classes were left up to the teachers. Teachers were pretty lazy though
Fairly laid back compared to private/non American schools. Administration rarely got involved unless you were a troublemaker or sperg
I would fall in both, but my academic performance was good so they didn’t really care about the latter.
Very academic oriented school

You could pick your own classes and stuff to an extent. You got placed in a math level based off of skill, and generally could choose between honors/AP/normal version of class. Then had some electives where you could take whatever


I became more isolated as time passed. By the time I graduated I was almost a complete recluse

I never really did things like go out with friends or go to parties. I did use to ditch class and walk to eat at this place nearby with some other guy, but mainly cuz he’d pay for me always lol

I would socialize to kill time in classes or during lunch but I’d prefer to use my phone or some computer over it. The times I went out of my way to socialize was usually to be an asshole

Most of my time was definitely spent alone

Restricted for sure at the time, but looking back it was pretty free
I did whatever I wanted personally, I’d often go to the library and use a computer to just rot there or leave class and go to some place nearby. I sometimes brought portable games to school and played

I could write a huge essay on this lol, a lot

I think the main thing that stuck out to me at the time was a lot of gay social rules
Being non NT, I didn’t get them at first (things like fashion norms) and I’d get shit for it. I noticed that I was sort of an in between though, definitely an outsider but I had a better understanding of how normies worked than the other non NTs. I remember I had this other sperg friend, and we’d say dumb shit together, I’d know when to get out and avoid trouble but he wouldn’t for example

One thing I realized is that people pick a group/groups they belong to and curate all of their responses and reactions based off of that. There were a lot of Asians at my school, and it’s eerie how similar Asian Americans are nationwide, I can recognize when someone is one even on the internet for example

I know that people here like to discuss dating/romance dynamics, but I was completely disconnected from this and had no idea

There were definitely a lot of subtle blackpills though, social hierarchy wise

There were definitely a lot of subtle blackpills though, social hierarchy wise

Could you explain more on this topic, that and did you ever pay attention to the teacher/student hierarchy?

 

[vermeulean]

i have very few good memories from my schooldays. mostly just waiting to get home and play vidya.

consistently did average in all non-english related subjects. never interacted with anyone since i wanted to live an unobserved life. people were basically just nonentities to me, and back then i didnt lose any sleep knowing that i had fucked the opportunity to develop any robust social network. public school so most kids there were fairly retarded anyway, the academically-oriented ones were nothing compared to the kids from local selective schools.

i do sort of regret not trying in that environment. might go back to school to study law or economics, idk. despite the fact that i was surrounded by retards at the time, most of them were likely more intelligent simply on the basis of being able to adequately balance their social and academic lives. nowadays a social life only obtains value inside the operculum of utilitarian necessity. i mean, even the stembrained ones were only able to balance everything due to being bullwhipped by their ethnic parents, lol.

even though i rarely think about school now, can't help but wonder if there was some promise on my part just left up in the air due to my overwhelming indifference to it all. always thought that highschool memories, the folies of youth, the whole bolus of partying and drinking and fucking girls, was purely infantile. i mean, the instability that comes from bearing that ideal is surely not a logical one? attributing so much weight to sense data is wild...

 

[Deleted member 52]

Could you explain more on this topic, that and did you ever pay attention to the teacher/student hierarchy?

A lot of racial segregation for one

White kids more athletic/popular and the smart groups being Asian

What’s funny is that the Asians among the more NT groups were all the dumb Asians lol

In terms of typical blackpill stuff, from what I remember the high status guys weren’t super gl. Mostly just tall guys with good phenos involved in sports

Most of the people who were short/ugly/whatever in these groups were jestermaxxers and utter jokes

Almost all the outcasts were ugly, but water

Idk, I was extremely isolated and mostly just friends with other losers so it’s hard to know. Even with these other losers the friendship wasn’t strong like I said

One brutal thing is that the few relationships I did know of, lots of cheating

 

[Sovereign]

i have very few good memories from my schooldays. mostly just waiting to get home and play vidya.

consistently did average in all non-english related subjects. never interacted with anyone since i wanted to live an unobserved life. people were basically just nonentities to me, and back then i didnt lose any sleep knowing that i had fucked the opportunity to develop any robust social network. public school so most kids there were fairly retarded anyway, the academically-oriented ones were nothing compared to the kids from local selective schools.

i do sort of regret not trying in that environment. might go back to school to study law or economics, idk. despite the fact that i was surrounded by retards at the time, most of them were likely more intelligent simply on the basis of being able to adequately balance their social and academic lives. nowadays a social life only obtains value inside the operculum of utilitarian necessity. i mean, even the stembrained ones were only able to balance everything due to being bullwhipped by their ethnic parents, lol.

even though i rarely think about school now, can't help but wonder if there was some promise on my part just left up in the air due to my overwhelming indifference to it all. always thought that highschool memories, the folies of youth, the whole bolus of partying and drinking and fucking girls, was purely infantile. i mean, the instability that comes from bearing that ideal is surely not a logical one? attributing so much weight to sense data is wild...

Regarding the whole, you spent most of it by yourself with no interaction with your peers and much of your time was spent on games and being inside your room?


Going from there, what did you do with most of your time alone?

 

[vermeulean]

Regarding the whole, you spent most of it by yourself with no interaction with your peers and much of your time was spent on games and being inside your room?


Going from there, what did you do with most of your time alone?

earlier in my school years i mainly drifted between groups, never having an anchor to actually be more than just partially acquainted. most of these groups consisted of peers from the lower rung of the social hierarchy, and even then i found myself incompatible with them. i had an almost irrational contempt for many of them, probably an incurrence from years of apathy which had been present as early as my primary school years. in the later years i often retreated to the nearby park during break times. basically just killing time so that i could go home and play vidya until nighttime.

i haven't seriously wasted away on a computer in years, or at least not to the degree that i did in highschool. probably stunted my development in some way, idk. but i don't necessarily regret not forming connections back then. i don't use social media so i never kept up with what most of them are up to, but i assume that they're probably doing fairly well, and it would be naive for me assign to them the empirically vacant glossy-eyed distinction. call it a petty pot-kettle mentality, or the benefit of a doubt.

 

[Sovereign]

earlier in my school years i mainly drifted between groups, never having an anchor to actually be more than just partially acquainted. most of these groups consisted of peers from the lower rung of the social hierarchy, and even then i found myself incompatible with them. i had an almost irrational contempt for many of them, probably an incurrence from years of apathy which had been present as early as my primary school years. in the later years i often retreated to the nearby park during break times. basically just killing time so that i could go home and play vidya until nighttime.

i haven't seriously wasted away on a computer in years, or at least not to the degree that i did in highschool. probably stunted my development in some way, idk. but i don't necessarily regret not forming connections back then. i don't use social media so i never kept up with what most of them are up to, but i assume that they're probably doing fairly well, and it would be naive for me assign to them the empirically vacant glossy-eyed distinction. call it a petty pot-kettle mentality, or the benefit of a doubt.

If I understand your experience, you did not care for what most people of boards of this type talk about, because to you- being apathetic to it and having very little social affiliation continued on with life as you like it?

 

[vermeulean]

If I understand your experience, you did not care for what most people of boards of this type talk about, because to you- being apathetic to it and having very little social affiliation continued on with life as you like it?

learned indifference is probably the most logical course for me. a lack of social capital is just that species of fact which i've adapted to, and hopefully things will remain that way for a while. i mean, i never really needed to cope because i always assumed that my life was just a vacuum of promise, or the absence of any substantive commitment. i don't know.

 

[Sovereign]

learned indifference is probably the most logical course for me. a lack of social capital is just that species of fact which i've adapted to, and hopefully things will remain that way for a while. i mean, i never really needed to cope because i always assumed that my life was just a vacuum of promise, or the absence of any substantive commitment. i don't know.

I understand oddly what you mean, though I share in common the feelings of regret on things I feel were stolen or missed, yet I have had this similar instance.

 

[Mementos]

I understand oddly what you mean, though I share in common the feelings of regret on things I feel were stolen or missed, yet I have had this similar instance.

If you are alone or examined by society at large, then I know what you mean.

 

[Sovereign]

It's a waste of time

Be more specific, how was it a waste of time, what do you remember specifically?

 

[Sovereign]

Autistic kids busy work that taught you nothing low in teachers

I have no idea what idea you are trying to convey.

 

[jayjay]

What has your experience been within the education system of your country?

As a youth I attended kindergarten from the time I started and ended I do not remember, but my time there was spent mainly on arts and craft, songs & rhymes, I did get into trouble once for pushing a girl and hiding behind the bushes. I was held back during this period of my youth. I remember once saying aloud "I miss my home". School for me at that age was simple; I got into trouble, however it was lowly matters. Once I pulled a young mans shirt back & forth- I meant no harm I simply meant to pull him back and forth like a cartoon character. Life changed once I entered elementary school which was wealthy, I was bullied and I felt isolated and alone for much of my time there, so much so I transitioned to a public to a charter school which the experience was no better. My teachers were very rude and I was bullied still. Oddly, it seemed my behavior was different so to speak but that I acted in a care free manner with no regard to its consequences; I was only aware enough to avoid trouble and authority, soon people would be added to the mix.

My performance as a student was at the retarded level, I went to special classes to help me in reading comprehension which helped and I was proud of it. For most of my life my academic life was sluggish, retarded and backwards, my performance overall was and is till this day is mediocre. I haven't an intellect well developed or defined, I am only aware enough (as Caesar said from Fallout or somewhere along the lines) "there is useful information in old books", hence I am well aware that whatever is hidden from the eyes is worth finding.

This should suffice for now, let me know what your experience were like.

There is no need for more intelligence for it only causes more suffering if we are not at the required level of consciousness. "There is only need" for consciousness for it free us from the desilusions of intelligence, which cause suffering.