The racial wealth gap is a key indicator of the economic costs of racism

[Apollo Tenzen]

Africans are genetically associated with a lower IQ; they have a smaller frontal lobe, which is where many cognitive abilities of humans reside. I highly doubt they have an efficient front lobe that requires less space to function. The Romans built bridges in Ethiopia, but Africans neglected them without maintenance. Then a white dude came and showed how to build a bridge with minimum resources. THEN THE FUCKING NIGGERS DESTROYED THAT BRIDGE FOR SCRAPS! View attachment 12043

No. Stop the fallacies if you want a debate.
– Hasty generalization (isolated anecdotes treated as universal).
– False evidence (debunked or fabricated biological claims).

 

[Schwarzwald]

It’s funny watching ya'll larp as 'realists.'
One of you thinks the world is a giant HR department for Citigroup, and the other thinks life is a video game where your 'stats' are rolled at birth and you can never level up.
You’re both terrified of the same thing: Individual Will.
You’ll arguing over group averages because you all are too weak to stand on your own two feet and judge a person by their character or their actions. A real 'Master' doesn't need a spreadsheet or a slur to navigate the world. He writes his own principles and treats people with the nobility of a leader, not the pettiness of a clerk. Just shouting from the back of the bus. Let me know when one of you actually learns how to drive.

 

[Konrad Cruze]

No. Stop the fallacies if you want a debate.
– Hasty generalization (isolated anecdotes treated as universal).
– False evidence (debunked or fabricated biological claims).

False evidence?

 

[Schwarzwald]

False evidence? View attachment 12233

>If IQ is the only metric of worth, then you’re just a 'goy' to the people outscoring you...

 

[Apollo Tenzen]

False evidence? View attachment 12233

Maybe you should try getting a job?

sighs
-Is to told to not use fallacies
-Uses GWAS (Genome-Wide Association Study) fallacy anyway.
"1) assuming that variants with the strongest statistical associations are causal instead of correlative, 2) believing that associated loci act through nearby genes, and 3) overemphasizing the contribution of individual loci to the total variability of particular traits"

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10473744

This is a study on who stay on school for longer, not high performance.

1. The Portability Problem: Geneticists have repeatedly shown that polygenic scores developed for one population (Europeans) do not work when applied to another (Africans). This is because of "linkage disequilibrium"—the "tags" used to identify these genes in Europeans aren't the same in Africans. When you try to use these scores to predict IQ in Black populations, the predictive power drops to nearly zero.
2. Environment is the "Switch": Many of these alleles relate to "synaptic plasticity"—the brain's ability to change. If you have the "high plasticity" allele but grow up with lead in the water, chronic stress, or poor nutrition, that gene expresses itself differently. It’s like having a high-end graphics card but no electricity to run the PC.
3. The Ancestry Trap: Africa has more genetic diversity than the rest of the world combined. For every "European allele" you listed, there are thousands of African variations that haven't even been mapped yet. You're trying to measure the depth of the ocean using a ruler made for a backyard pool.

 

[Konrad Cruze]

Maybe you should try getting a job?

sighs
-Is to told to not use fallacies
-Uses GWAS (Genome-Wide Association Study) fallacy anyway.
"1) assuming that variants with the strongest statistical associations are causal instead of correlative, 2) believing that associated loci act through nearby genes, and 3) overemphasizing the contribution of individual loci to the total variability of particular traits"

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10473744

This is a study on who stay on school for longer, not high performance.

1. The Portability Problem: Geneticists have repeatedly shown that polygenic scores developed for one population (Europeans) do not work when applied to another (Africans). This is because of "linkage disequilibrium"—the "tags" used to identify these genes in Europeans aren't the same in Africans. When you try to use these scores to predict IQ in Black populations, the predictive power drops to nearly zero.
2. Environment is the "Switch": Many of these alleles relate to "synaptic plasticity"—the brain's ability to change. If you have the "high plasticity" allele but grow up with lead in the water, chronic stress, or poor nutrition, that gene expresses itself differently. It’s like having a high-end graphics card but no electricity to run the PC.
3. The Ancestry Trap: Africa has more genetic diversity than the rest of the world combined. For every "European allele" you listed, there are thousands of African variations that haven't even been mapped yet. You're trying to measure the depth of the ocean using a ruler made for a backyard pool.

Using insults and calling someone argument fallacies instead of actually pointing out the flaw in their logic shows you have political bias.

1. There exists verifiability in many tests. Here, a method, even if it requires slight adjustment, will consistently give the result of identifying intelligent and unintelligent individuals regardless of region or observer. The image listed all the alleles associated with intelligence that were abundantly present in Europeans. You didn't provide any evidence of other alleles that exist outside of those present in Africa. You said they haven't been mapped means you can't find one to prove me wrong.

2. While the environment is in fact true, we also need to take into consideration customs and inheritance. You nurture and nature both define you. Africans have a ghost hominid admixture. Basically, how Europeans have Neanderthal DNA, similarly, Sub Saharan African have their own admixture. The effect of an environment on communities with different hominid admixtures is not the same. This fact can not be ignored.

3. You talk about lead, but Africans never created huge industries where they could get lead poisoning. They built no sustainable or grand structure even before European came, and not even today, even with a lot of assets left behind more than they already had. The lead poisoning was nothing, even after industrialization, compared to that of other nations like India or the USA. Even Roman had more lead poisoning in the classical era than many African regions have today.

 

[Konrad Cruze]

>If IQ is the only metric of worth, then you’re just a 'goy' to the people outscoring you...

No, IQ is not the only metric of your worth. However, it does show an indication of your capabilities. African didn't create advanced civilization due to resource scarcity, yet Russians, Mongols, and Vikings did take logistics into great account while planning their strategy.

 

[Apollo Tenzen]

Using insults and calling someone argument fallacies instead of actually pointing out the flaw in their logic shows you have political bias.

1. There exists verifiability in many tests. Here, a method, even if it requires slight adjustment, will consistently give the result of identifying intelligent and unintelligent individuals regardless of region or observer. The image listed all the alleles associated with intelligence that were abundantly present in Europeans. You didn't provide any evidence of other alleles that exist outside of those present in Africa. You said they haven't been mapped means you can't find one to prove me wrong.

2. While the environment is in fact true, we also need to take into consideration customs and inheritance. You nurture and nature both define you. Africans have a ghost hominid admixture. Basically, how Europeans have Neanderthal DNA, similarly, Sub Saharan African have their own admixture. The effect of an environment on communities with different hominid admixtures is not the same. This fact can not be ignored.

3. You talk about lead, but Africans never created huge industries where they could get lead poisoning. They built no sustainable or grand structure even before European came, and not even today, even with a lot of assets left behind more than they already had. The lead poisoning was nothing, even after industrialization, compared to that of other nations like India or the USA. Even Roman had more lead poisoning in the classical era than many African regions have today.

Get a job i am not reading your shit.

 

[Konrad Cruze]

Get a job i am not reading your shit.

So, you admit to be doing all this in bad faith and you never had a proper argument against me.

 

[Schwarzwald]

No, IQ is not the only metric of your worth. However, it does show an indication of your capabilities. African didn't create advanced civilization due to resource scarcity, yet Russians, Mongols, and Vikings did take logistics into great account while planning their strategy.

Listen man, the 'logistics' argument is kind of a self-own because it ignores the actual map. Those Russians and Vikings didn’t win because they had better 'logistics software' in their brains; they won because they lived on a giant East-West landmass where you could actually ride horses and grow wheat for thousands of miles. If you put those same 'high-IQ' Vikings in central Africa with nothing but zebras—which are basically just angry, un-rideable horses—and a vertical climate that kills every crop you move ten miles south, their 'logistics' wouldn't have done shit. We’re all just pink in the middle, man, reacting to the tools the earth gave us. You’re looking for 'nobility' in a spreadsheet because you're scared of the fact that civilizational success is mostly just geographical luck. Quit larping as a warlord and look at the actual terrain.

 

[Schwarzwald]

Using insults and calling someone argument fallacies instead of actually pointing out the flaw in their logic shows you have political bias.

1. There exists verifiability in many tests. Here, a method, even if it requires slight adjustment, will consistently give the result of identifying intelligent and unintelligent individuals regardless of region or observer. The image listed all the alleles associated with intelligence that were abundantly present in Europeans. You didn't provide any evidence of other alleles that exist outside of those present in Africa. You said they haven't been mapped means you can't find one to prove me wrong.

2. While the environment is in fact true, we also need to take into consideration customs and inheritance. You nurture and nature both define you. Africans have a ghost hominid admixture. Basically, how Europeans have Neanderthal DNA, similarly, Sub Saharan African have their own admixture. The effect of an environment on communities with different hominid admixtures is not the same. This fact can not be ignored.

3. You talk about lead, but Africans never created huge industries where they could get lead poisoning. They built no sustainable or grand structure even before European came, and not even today, even with a lot of assets left behind more than they already had. The lead poisoning was nothing, even after industrialization, compared to that of other nations like India or the USA. Even Roman had more lead poisoning in the classical era than many African regions have today.

First, your 'unmapped genes' logic is a joke. You’re basically saying, 'I’m using a map of London to navigate Tokyo, and because the Tokyo map isn't finished yet, London must be the only city that exists.' Geneticists have already shown that the 'tags' you’re using for intelligence in Europeans don't work on African DNA because Africa has more genetic diversity than the rest of the planet combined. You aren't measuring 'unintelligent individuals'; you’re just using a broken ruler.
Second, your 'Ghost Hominid' talk is just another way to avoid looking at the actual terrain. Everyone has admixture—Europeans have Neanderthal, Asians have Denisovan. If 'admixture' was a death sentence for civilization, we’d all still be living in caves. You’re looking for a biological 'boogeyman' because you’re too scared to admit that geography is the real driver of history.


Look Konrad, let’s just play devil’s advocate and say your whole 'hierarchy' is 100% correct for a second. Even if you believe some groups have 'lower stats' on a chart, what is this hate actually doing for you? You’re acting like a guy who hates a dog because it can’t do calculus. Do you kick a dog because it’s not a human? Of course not. A real leader—a real 'Master'—doesn't find glory in being cruel to those he thinks are 'lesser.' That’s 'slave morality' behavior; it’s the pettiness of a clerk who needs someone to look down on just to feel like he’s standing up. Even if you don't see the 'joint mental space' we all share, we are all still 'pink in the middle' and capable of suffering. Carrying all this bitterness just turns your own soul into a 'Stage 3' stress wreck. You're trying to build a civilization out of 'logistics' and 'alleles,' but you’re forgetting that the only thing worth building is a world where you can actually be proud of the man you are when no one is looking. Let the hate go, man. It’s a heavy bag to carry, and it’s not making you any 'smarter' or 'superior'—it’s just making you small.