Serious Under which conditions would you have a son? When would you say no?

[Depresso]

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This question is for everyone but some understanding of the blackpill is required. Under which conditions would you have a son? This includes neighbourhood, salary, assets and any other conditions.

Assume he's going to turn out average, between 4 and 7.

 

[Wolfstorm]

I'm neurodivergent. I would have to be born in another planet, with another humanity, and another civilization, in order to have kids.

 

[Depresso]

For me the answer depends on my financial situation and connections because if I had those, then he would have opportunities. If he went anywhere near trouble or he was predated on, I'd have no problems moving him out of that situation.

If I didn't have the finances and the connections, I would be much more dependent on the local area. Two things would stand out immediately.

First, the economic corruption and how easy it is to self-improve and gain status. If the economy is corrupt then you live in a gangland cartel hell, growing up will be dangerous because you will be predated on and recruited into a gang and then maybe end up on LiveLeak. You can't even run a business in a corrupt economy because gangs will extort your profits and then spend that on women and drugs. Your only option is immigration.

Second, how bluepilled the local attitudes are. If you live in a bluepilled country everyone pretend hates natural masculinity and is a jestermax to the worst of femcels. Everyone pretends to be a wholesome feminist but watches porn in secret. There's a high incidence of gender dysphoria (up to 50 times more) because some men take the bluepill at face value. Once an oofy doofy has fatigued of the bluepill, they end up taking the blackpill and if that's not enough, there are billionnaire oligarchs playing culture wars and recruiting angry radicals to their little wars. Everything is parental guidance only and nothing is safe, not even for adults.



So without finances and connections, it would be very difficult to raise a son.

 

[newsincerity]

having family in this matrix is a wrap for me
the very need for parents is because you're born defenseless and limited
I'd rather have a "family" in a place where you come into being already as young adult or create yourself so free will is respected and it's not a retarded loosh farm lottery filled with negative energy as well as physical pollution
I'm sure all the bad things here are interconnected and kept that way for a reason by beings far older than us and with more energy
your thoughts here are not your own so why would your child be
good luck playing family in a prison

 

[Wolfstorm]

You dont have father and son in the causal plane, the genealogies of the gods were only created in order to sell the myths to the peasants. The idea of continuity by blood only have importance in a realm filled with entropy.

 

[Quintilian]

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This question is for everyone but some understanding of the blackpill is required. Under which conditions would you have a son? This includes neighbourhood, salary, assets and any other conditions.

Assume he's going to turn out average, between 4 and 7.

If and only if, I was educated in the seven liberal arts, well mannered and tempered, that I am financially well off; from my education it is compelte, my character strong, my mind well cultivated. Overall, to be a capable of teaching another being how to exist within this realm.

 

[porco-dddio]

im into the idea. I think having a kid and put him on welfare is good for me, id be OK to do it.

Or also have lots kids and have a private school for them, thats also fun.

Surely I cant follow normie program, its destructive. We had culture of 1 son for 2 generations now, and I think this is the third, and its unsustainable.

I wrote shitposts about their ideologies, they generate too much suffering other than be all unsustainable. They resorted to mocking me and slandering me for my protest, but at this point in time im just stating the obvious. I dont even feel good knowing i was vindicated on everything and I was right all along.

 

[Depresso]

You dont have father and son in the causal plane, the genealogies of the gods were only created in order to sell the myths to the peasants. The idea of continuity by blood only have importance in a realm filled with entropy.

Did you mean in the acausal plane? In the causal realm, pretty much everything has a cause.

 

[Depresso]

If and only if, I was educated in the seven liberal arts, well mannered and tempered, that I am financially well off; from my education it is compelte, my character strong, my mind well cultivated. Overall, to be a capable of teaching another being how to exist within this realm.

You forgot defense capabilities. You'll have to defend the other being until it can fend for itself.

What do you think about the Naruto world?

 

[Wolfstorm]

Did you mean in the acausal plane? In the causal realm, pretty much everything has a cause.
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True, but the acausal don't touch the material and liminal directly, it needs the causal to make a bridge to it. That's why there are archetypes.
In this case, the cause is your determination for a exit.

 

[Depresso]

True, but the acausal don't touch the material and liminal directly, it needs the causal to make a bridge to it. That's why there are archetypes.
In this case, the cause is your determination for a exit.

Does this come from where I think it comes from?

 

[Wolfstorm]

Does this come from where I think it comes from?

I'm not a buddhist.
I think buddhism is in error, because when you aim for absolute nihilistic emptiness, you are aiming for the highest of the high, which is pure random chaos. From there you fall back into the material realm, like in the flight of Icarus.
You need to aim for the middle realm. Your soul would become a island in the acausal sea, you would be living there with a causal body. The island would be isolated from the causal structures of the omniverse, hence being prevented from being recycled. That's where the gods live, the blessed islands of greek myth.

 

[Depresso]

I'm not a buddhist.
I think buddhism is in error, because when you aim for absolute nihilistic emptiness, you are aiming for the highest of the high, which is pure random chaos. From there you fall back into the material realm, like in the flight of Icarus.
You need to aim for the middle realm. Your soul would become a island in the acausal sea, you would be living there with a causal body. The island would be isolated from the causal structures of the omniverse, hence being prevented from being recycled. That's where the gods live, the blessed islands of greek myth.

What do you follow? Where did you get all this from?

 

[Wolfstorm]

What do you follow? Where did you get all this from?

I dont follow anyone.

 

[Depresso]

I dont follow anyone.

I meant the influences.

I think buddhism is in error, because when you aim for absolute nihilistic emptiness, you are aiming for the highest of the high, which is pure random chaos. From there you fall back into the material realm, like in the flight of Icarus.
You need to aim for the middle realm. Your soul would become a island in the acausal sea, you would be living there with a causal body. The island would be isolated from the causal structures of the omniverse, hence being prevented from being recycled. That's where the gods live, the blessed islands of greek myth.

You see the highest high as pure random chaos, so I'm guessing it gets more chaotic as you transcend? Where does all this come from?

 

[Wolfstorm]

You see the highest high as pure random chaos, so I'm guessing it gets more chaotic as you transcend? Where does all this come from?

Absolute emptiness is where absolute chaos is.
You can check most mythologies, they all start with chaos. A empty void that gives origin to everything, all the time. I see it as a transitory state. So you fly there, you meet absolute boredom and get engulfed by being, being pulled back to down below. That's why you need to create new forms. And these are not eternal, only the soul is.