Discussion What makes this forum worth keeping in your opinion?

[johnvee]

I dont know what forum id go to. I just like this place and neets.net. Im uncomfortable going back to neets .net I like it here or bring this to creation.social

I tried to join incels.is and they declined me because I guess I'm not an incel, I'm banned from both looksmaxxing forums as well, I'm on NEETS.NET but what other forums are there I'm not aware of?

 

[Tabula Rasa]

is the competition that fierce? the only really active manosphere forum is looksmax I think and that's nothing like this one.

It’s not about competition from other forums. I’d rather not keep the forum up when users here are fighting all the time and there’s not much of a harmonious environment.

 

[LaserGunPewPew]

I tried to join incels.is and they declined me because I guess I'm not an incel, I'm banned from both looksmaxxing forums as well, I'm on NEETS.NET but what other forums are there I'm not aware of?

Incels is a cesspool. It's just a few clowns here who ruin what Tab wants to build but Incels? Forget about it. They're all lost causes.

 

[Queen Belle]

I tried to join incels.is and they declined me because I guess I'm not an incel, I'm banned from both looksmaxxing forums as well, I'm on NEETS.NET but what other forums are there I'm not aware of?

We can create a group on creation.social if Tabula trashes the project. Hopefully we can gather enough refugees to make a community
or create a discord.

I used to like some other stuff. I loved Facebook groups but im meta banned

There was a forum called Zenhex but it changed branding and became a fratboy forum or something like that

 

[OgreLTN]

It’s not about competition from other forums. I’d rather not keep the forum up when users here are fighting all the time and there’s not much of a harmonious environment.

For the short time I've been here, I haven't perceived any of what you talk about as hostility. I took it as friendly banter, which is bound to happen in that way between men. Other forums seem to have true hostility, whilst this one, as I said, seems to just be jokes.

What do you mean with harmonious?

 

[Sovereign]

There are users who have voiced their objections so I'd like to hear their perspective more. What makes Elysian Fields different and worth keeping compared to the other forums out there, when in recent times in terms of discourse and atmosphere the forum has started to look no different to the other offerings in the space?

The 'cool features' and 'customization' is something that is extraneous and if that's all people are using it for that's more of a reason to shut down the forum.

The forum has declined noticeably in the past few months, with terrible user engagement and user retention. One of the main aspirations when starting the forum was to have an environment and culture similar to Neets where the majority of members were comfortable enough with each other to strike up friendly conversation and create a chill non-toxic environment. While Elysian Fields succeeded in that aspect in the beginning, with a small close-knit group of members, the forum has slowly become less cohesive over time.

I'd rather not keep the forum up if people are always attacking each other and it's just a hotbed for bullying and negative vibes.


@Registered

Tabula, we are faced with an awkward dilemma and I would like to make myself and my opinions clear on certain matters.

What makes this forum worth keeping in your opinion?​

Forums come and go, so do people; but what they established for their time and continue to produce answers unto itself. 4chan was a site that no one knew of unless you adventured the internet in days long past- at first it was just a joke between Moot and his friends, what started as a anonymous image board became the worlds most recognized and hated site. It created hostilities, government agencies were poking their head through the window, wondering what this site was about, the people who reside in mass and have the most vocal opinion are the most blatant of FAGGOTS. However, despite the issues that plagued it, it was the number 1 site where even to this day, great stories, pictures, webm's and information were posted, everyone was equal and what separated you from the many was the quality of your post- meaning that a quality thread that was funny or just outright silly was worth keeping in internet history. It provided a frame work for many chans to come and take their place, its culture influenced the world for just a image board, where did Pepe get his popularity? 4chan, who post funny moments and stories? 4chan.


This site can serve a purpose, but that purpose cannot be recognized until its power is wielded responsibly, their has not been a decline in user hospitality, but rather because there were certain characters of abrupt and assertive natures and they being known through this sphere of course made their being clear.


I will be clear- @Tabula Rasa if you want this to work you cannot expect the sweet corn to grow by itself, there was once a farmer in the land of Lu in Ancient China, he was concerned that his sweet corn was not growing at a pace he was confrontable with so he said "I'll help my corn to grow, so it can grow faster", so he went to work lifting up and down the sweet corns till it was late; he returned home and his daughter and son were eating and he said allowed "Boy, what a day! I spent all this time helping my sweet corn to grow. WHAT?!" said the son in shock, he went over and saw that all the corn had wilted and died.
Moral:
You can help plants by watering and sheltering them,​

But you can't make them grow any faster then what they are capable of.
Is it any more different then people?


In this respect, this site servers as opportunity and option, how many sites are there in this sphere? Incels.is, neets, looksmaz, the blackpill club, based space, but truly there is not much in the field. Elysian fields stands as fertile ground, but I will tell you this @Tabula Rasa if this user base has acted as you claim, then in honest where are you when these things happen or better yet how do you contribute in your own way, and by what intensity does your presence bring?

If you want to see the site grow a certain way, then put the sun flower in a sunny place, if you want no thorns on your roses cut them off; if you want your dog to be behaved then you have to show him in a manner that is possible to his being.

I will write this last bit, no site does it better in terms of a openness, the abilities users have on this site has given them more freedom then any other site. It now becomes a matter of choice & direction. If you want to see this site succeed, then you had better start now and being honest with yourself. Neets failed because it imploded unto itself and relied on moderators who did as they pleased, and allowed certain behaviors and attitudes to persist without resistance. Let neets go, it died, we are set upon the digital stage and we now have a moment where truly we can interact intelligently and have more opportunity then most will ever get in this sphere, its a time in our lives to choose, the past cannot be redeemed, but we can redeem ourselves here and now, the past has been, the present belongs to us and the future is not yet known.

Don't just give up until you've made every conservable effort to see this struggle through. Without you I would not have had a chance to be a moderator, if it wasn't for you giving it a chance we would not have certain opportunities.

Its your choice in the end, but we can't do it alone, we can't do it without you @Tabula Rasa

 

[Fantasea]

It’s not about competition from other forums. I’d rather not keep the forum up when users here are fighting all the time and there’s not much of a harmonious environment.

arguments and a bit of drama is basic forum culture everywhere tbh. the only places I've seen with virtually no beef are subreddits that just employ insane censorship and perma's countless users. extremely toxic shit is rare and that's what moderation is for. it makes more sense to tackle the root of the issue (the few users) than nuke everything. of course there will be some hostile behavior when hostile users like @LaserGunPewPew don't get banned

 

[VioletBlast]

Forget about it. They're all lost causes

No when your birth right is taken from you and brainwashed from birth by the schools, tv, religion and your peers to treat girls with “respect” and ignore your own gut would drive them into such spaces

 

[johnvee]

Incels is a cesspool. It's just a few clowns here who ruin what Tab wants to build but Incels? Forget about it. They're all lost causes.

Yeah reading the rules for incels.is makes it seem like a very gloomy and depressing place, no talk of "chad" or positive experiences with women, the few incels I know IRL are fucking deadbeat losers with no future rife with serious personal issues like lack of self esteem/self worth, insecure about themselves, jealous of good looking men, I dont want to associate with people like that at all, one of my cousins is practically an incel so I have had to associate with him a bit but I dont need to anymore, hes an idiot with serious problems.

 

[Tabula Rasa]

arguments and a bit of drama is basic forum culture everywhere tbh. the only places I've seen with virtually no beef are subreddits that just employ insane censorship and perma's countless users. extremely toxic shit is rare and that's what moderation is for. it makes more sense to tackle the root of the issue (the few users) than nuke everything. of course there will be some hostile behavior when hostile users like @LaserGunPewPew don't get banned

I don’t know why you all keep singling @LaserGunPewPew for some reason and this witch-hunting is partially why I’ve decided to shut down the forum. He’s the kind of user that if you don’t see eye to eye with it’d be better to ignore and not interact with.

I’ve always respected the diversity of opinion from the members here and argue that it’s probably what makes this site different from the other forums.

@Queen Belle would remember Plukee and The Devil for instance.

 

[TalesFromDaBasement]

Nothing, just nuke this useless piece of shit and move on

 

[Fantasea]

I don’t know why you all keep singling @LaserGunPewPew for some reason and this witch-hunting is partially why I’ve decided to shut down the forum. He’s the kind of user that if you don’t see eye to eye with it’d be better to ignore and not interact with.

I’ve always respected the diversity of opinion from the members here and argue that it’s probably what makes this site different from the other forums.

@Queen Belle would remember Plukee and The Devil for instance.

it's not about our disagreements or ideologies he literally opens conversations with hostility. everyone here know this is. he also slides into users profiles and DMs to start beef.

 

[VioletBlast]

@LaserGunPewPew for some reason and this witch-hunting is partially why I’ve decided to shut down the forum.

Did he suck your dick or something?? Niggas about the throw away the entire forum for him

 

[Fantasea]

I don’t know why you all keep singling @LaserGunPewPew for some reason and this witch-hunting is partially why I’ve decided to shut down the forum. He’s the kind of user that if you don’t see eye to eye with it’d be better to ignore and not interact with.

I’ve always respected the diversity of opinion from the members here and argue that it’s probably what makes this site different from the other forums.

@Queen Belle would remember Plukee and The Devil for instance.

if u want to allow redditors, fags, and bluepillers into a supposedly whitepilled community that's that but when u let in hostile ones who bully those who actually belong here ur asking for trouble. it's already asking a lot to expect us to co-exist when we're nothing alike. it'd be almost like letting in foids and expecting us to be on good terms. anyway the point is it makes more sense to snipe the targets than nuke the entire city.

 

[LaserGunPewPew]

Yeah reading the rules for incels.is makes it seem like a very gloomy and depressing place, no talk of "chad" or positive experiences with women, the few incels I know IRL are fucking deadbeat losers with no future rife with serious personal issues like lack of self esteem/self worth, insecure about themselves, jealous of good looking men, I dont want to associate with people like that at all, one of my cousins is practically an incel so I have had to associate with him a bit but I dont need to anymore, hes an idiot with serious problems.

And that mindset is why you're already on your way.

I don’t know why you all keep singling @LaserGunPewPew for some reason and this witch-hunting is partially why I’ve decided to shut down the forum. He’s the kind of user that if you don’t see eye to eye with it’d be better to ignore and not interact with.

I’ve always respected the diversity of opinion from the members here and argue that it’s probably what makes this site different from the other forums.

@Queen Belle would remember Plukee and The Devil for instance.

I know the crabs will come out after this reply (they're on ignore once more just in case), but this whole thing began when certain users were blocked for their antics. I didn't even insult them or anything. They crossed a boundary, I politely asked them to stop more than once, they continued, so I blocked them. I'll admit, one or two of these people were ignored because of gross and potentially law breaking behavior on other forums and I have zero tolerance for what they did, but that's neither here nor there.

As I say many times, I don't deal with illogical or emotional behavior. I separate myself and move on. If one can't be logical or respectful when talking with me, no interaction will take place. It's that simple. That being said, I don't want you to feel you have to run the site. You owe nobody anything and you have to put yourself first. Do what is best for you, my good man. Don't worry about us. We're grown men. We'll be fine.

 

[Fantasea]

Did he suck your dick or something?? Niggas about the throw away the entire forum for him

the fact that tabula thinks @LaserGunPewPew is a peaceful user makes me not surprised of today's ordeal anymore.

 

[VioletBlast]

If one can't be logical

feel

 

[OgreLTN]

the fact that tabula thinks @LaserGunPewPew is a peaceful user makes me not surprised of today's ordeal anymore.

Then it was bound to happen sooner or later. Some people can't help their nature. One of the core blackpill tenats

 

[Fantasea]

Then it was bound to happen sooner or later. Some people can't help their nature. One of the core blackpill tenats

the few problems we have are so obvious. sad to see this all happen over something so trivial.

 

[VioletBlast]

And that mindset is why you're already on your way.


I know the crabs will come out after this reply (they're on ignore once more just in case), but this whole thing began when certain users were blocked for their antics. I didn't even insult them or anything. They crossed a boundary, I politely asked them to stop more than once, they continued, so I blocked them. I'll admit, one or two of these people were ignored because of gross and potentially law breaking behavior on other forums and I have zero tolerance for what they did, but that's neither here nor there.

As I say many times, I don't deal with illogical or emotional behavior. I separate myself and move on. If one can't be logical or respectful when talking with me, no interaction will take place. It's that simple. That being said, I don't want you to feel you have to run the site. You owe nobody anything and you have to put yourself first. Do what is best for you, my good man. Don't worry about us. We're grown men. We'll be fine.

Spirituality - Spirituality is a psyop

"I killed my Ego, you should do it too." Spirituality's literally something old women are into. Seems like a way to feminize men and keep them chasing glorified states of silent mind/non duality/unity with creation or other fleeting mind phenomena and make them accept whatever bullshit comes...

elysianfields.se

 

[Queen Belle]

FAGGOTS

I dont know if you know this but this is a term of endearment in the branch of the the internet i once occupied

I don’t know why you all keep singling @LaserGunPewPew for some reason and this witch-hunting is partially why I’ve decided to shut down the forum. He’s the kind of user that if you don’t see eye to eye with it’d be better to ignore and not interact with.

I’ve always respected the diversity of opinion from the members here and argue that it’s probably what makes this site different from the other forums.

@Queen Belle would remember Plukee and The Devil for instance.

@LaserGunPewPew is something we arent accustomed to not just in mesosphere. He is really not like pluckee and the devil both types we expect to find in strange internet spaces. There are places where its mostly people like him or there arent any. Hes a reddit tier moderator personality that has spoken against us. Its not just us casting the first stone. In some cases he is on the attack. If you say me and all his haters should put him on ignore maybe we can do that.

BTW in the past you wanted to vote people out
I was the one against it


For historians
Pluckee was an internet liberal who had a mental breakdown. I dont know why Tabula Did not ban him for being gay. I reported him once for clear cut case of homosexuality but I was stoned out of my mind and maybe did not report properly. Sometimes I didnt report him because I he wasnt the wrong kind of gay and i dont hate gays. The devil... He was a deranged satanic communist. I was the one who spoke to his defense most in private staff discussions. I called him rude the day he was banned. I wonder if i was a big impact in keeping him here and getting him banned

 

[VioletBlast]

had a mental breakdown

He was a teen and couldn’t handle adult men plowing his teen gf in real life so he came here and lashed out at users for telling the truth

 

[Waco]

Since I was tagged I'm gonna give my opinion.
I don't really use this place I just log in to check if I got any notifications, but nigga literally every user in this thread doesn't want the forum to get killed, this just seems to be your own sentiment, drama is bound to happen but if any users step out of line or whatever just ban them, you don't have to shut everything down cuz there's a beef.

 

[newsincerity]

Spirituality - Spirituality is a psyop

"I killed my Ego, you should do it too." Spirituality's literally something old women are into. Seems like a way to feminize men and keep them chasing glorified states of silent mind/non duality/unity with creation or other fleeting mind phenomena and make them accept whatever bullshit comes...

elysianfields.se

both logic and feeling are needed

 

[Archibald]

I don’t see how this place can continue to provide value to anyone when people would just move back to the other forums anyway.

Bro, ts the only forum I use at this point (other than the ones for music recording, videotape, photography, and language learning)