Serious Why do hylics have such a visceral hatred of human euthanasia?

[Depresso]

A lot of the arguments in the pro-life side in the other thread came down to "control" and trolling.

Culture - What is your opinion on pro-choice vs. pro-life in general?

This is going to be a long-term debate thread. What is your opinion on these two stances about life, abortion and everything in general?

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[Chisai]

Literally fucking why how can you even be an outcast an be against people choosing to quit this rigged shithole full of suffering have you never lived in a shitty environment? gone to school, job, hospital, geriatric or have broken family or shitty health or mind? i dont fucking get it is one of the reason i wish fucking Hitler had won and cut down my family line before they imposed suffering on me but no like christcucks who i should side because most are against agecukery eventhough they pretend they say the fucking demiurge created you and no matter what you must take it and not only thank be fucking thankful for it and there they lost me completely to the point i feel such i could skin them alive or force them into paralized states to see if they still anti euthanasia then FUCK

 

[Shinrinken]

Big medicine can't cure you. It will give you things that make it worse and dependent.

Oh, they CAN cure you. However, they don't like to make cures now. They want just give you treatments and pills to mask the problem. They want everyone to have to pay them to feel good. Only people they know, like and have lots of money get the cure that "doesn't exist" or isn't "approved" now.

 

[Depresso]

Second thing, it pissess me off, because people dont wan to buy a shotgun and use clinics instead. But that is secondary, I consider them lesser humans, but if they are old I dont really care.

It's like I said in the other response, society is already like that in all the ways that matter. It's the fact that you've classified some people as people you don't really care about and keep repeating on about buying a shotgun that proves that point. Normies, like you, telling each other to "kys" is the only attitude shift that matters to this subject and it's already like that in the world.

If they use clinics, you could provide 10 alternatives that keep them alive before they go through with it in the end. You can actually prevent young people from buying the shotgun in the first place.

She bought a shotgun and didn't tell anyone about it

No im simply worried that the "philosophy" spreads in white countries, and white kids get to die. That is what worries me.

Assisted dying now accounts for one in 20 Canada deaths

For the first time, the annual report delved into race and ethnic data of those who underwent assisted dying.

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The "philosophy" that you're worried about is already in most countries and I don't think it's authentic of you to make this conversation into an ethnic issue. In Canada where they have MAID and the clinics you hate around 5% of all deaths are through MAID and around 96% of these deaths were "reasonably foreseeable". The median age of these deaths is more than 77. Canada now has public reports of who applies to MAID which is something that other countries don't have and there are controls in place.

In Canada, consenting adults can request medical assistance in dying from a healthcare provider if they have a serious and irremediable medical condition.

Some provisions are in place, including a requirement of having two independent healthcare providers confirm that the patient is eligible before their request is approved.

What makes me afraid is this shit can become very big if unchallenged.

No, you're only scared that people privately decide to go on their own terms before you get to tell them to go buy a shotgun. It's fear of loss of control. You don't own people.

 

[porco-dddio]

No, you're only scared that people privately decide to go on their own terms before you get to tell them to go buy a shotgun. It's fear of loss of control. You don't own people.

i already told my reasoning. You should just ask my opinion instead of inventing my opinion

 

[Depresso]

i already told my reasoning. You should just ask my opinion instead of inventing my opinion

You might have a point but what I said is true for others.

As a self-identified hylic, what's you solution to a trapped soul? Assume all of the painless ways have been taken away by the government.

 

[porco-dddio]

You might have a point but what I said is true for others.

As a self-identified hylic, what's you solution to a trapped soul? Assume all of the painless ways have been taken away by the government.

I have read your description about hylic, seems I suit it more or less. I tend to think theres only material reality. Or, if there is else I didnt consider I will not go around "Be spiritual" anyway.

Solution to trapped souls? I dont have any, sorry. I was in a tranny community and they had soul trap theory, but then they realized it was incoherent because they had to also accept religious positions unrelated to their transition.

So they solved it by simply expressing a preference, and now they cope with scientific jargon like AGP.

I advise to make it easy and dont try to justify too much your choices. I think you need to give no justification whasoever.

 

[Depresso]

I have read your description about hylic, seems I suit it more or less. I tend to think theres only material reality. Or, if there is else I didnt consider I will not go around "Be spiritual" anyway.

Solution to trapped souls? I dont have any, sorry. I was in a tranny community and they had soul trap theory, but then they realized it was incoherent because they had to also accept religious positions unrelated to their transition.

So they solved it by simply expressing a preference, and now they cope with scientific jargon like AGP.

I advise to make it easy and dont try to justify too much your choices. I think you need to give no justification whasoever.

You don't have a solution. Why do you oppose other's solutions to their own pain without offering a better one that doesn't offend you?

 

[porco-dddio]

You don't have a solution. Why do you oppose other's solutions to their own pain without offering a better one that doesn't offend you?

i just said I disagree with these dumbasses philosophy, not them dropping dead. It doesnt matter if they die, lots of them die they drop like flies and nobody cares.

If they spread their mental retardation then yes is a problem. Im not giving them any solution. I am not in power to give any of them any solution and they should be ashamed just asking one.

They gotta find a solution on their own, usually the first step is be able to define a problem correctly. I am not payed to define problms for them, they have to learn to do it on their own.

 

[Depresso]

i just said I disagree with these dumbasses philosophy, not them dropping dead. It doesnt matter if they die, lots of them die they drop like flies and nobody cares.

If they spread their mental retardation then yes is a problem. Im not giving them any solution. I am not in power to give any of them any solution and they should be ashamed just asking one.

They gotta find a solution on their own, usually the first step is be able to define a problem correctly. I am not payed to define problms for them, they have to learn to do it on their own.

I think suicide should be a crime with a death penalty

 

[porco-dddio]

I think suicide should be a crime with a death penalty

I think is totally fine. Their death, my life. Less normies, more incels.

 

[Depresso]

If you use a shotgun and do the deed yourself, you nver see me complaining. If you argue morally for euthanasia, I will complain.

If only one person finds out that they are insignificant that's nothing and they were not important anyway. But if many people find out that they are individually insignificant then that's dangerous and I will have to complain. That's just too dangerous for the things we actually care about

 

[porco-dddio]

If only one person finds out that they are insignificant that's nothing and they were not important anyway. But if many people find out that they are individually insignificant then that's dangerous and I will have to complain. That's just too dangerous for the things we actually care about

yes we are in a competition. If too many members of your groups are hving an issue you have to investigate what it is, and possibly fix it.

 

[Depresso]

yes we are in a competition. If too many members of your groups are hving an issue you have to investigate what it is, and possibly fix it.

What if the problem itself is that the investigators are too corrupt and it will never be fixed? Or what if it's an unfixable condition and they have to go?

If you investigate the investigators, you then get investigated yourself and gangstalked and then assassinated or worse. They will commit you to mental hospital and finish the job themselves. Maybe they will give you injections and psycho-torture you for decades.

This is worse than euthanasia, you run away from suffering but they stalk you, chase you, kidnap you and torture you with the suffering.

 

[porco-dddio]

What if the problem itself is that the investigators are too corrupt and it will never be fixed? Or what if it's an unfixable condition and they have to go?

yuo mean some bullshit loosh harvesting bullshit about "the grid" or "the reincarnation soul trap" bullshit? I dont even know what that is. I cant investigate that pack of bullshit

 

[Depresso]

yuo mean some bullshit loosh harvesting bullshit about "the grid" or "the reincarnation soul trap" bullshit? I dont even know what that is. I cant investigate that pack of bullshit

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They don't want to cure you because of how it affects power, profits and micro-games. The loosh is a side-effect and you can take it or leave it if you want. Management is always more profitable than the cure and when you're "spent" like a nuclear rod, they leave you to die of exposure. The patients are the pimp's BPD whores, the doctors get in when it's good and dump her when it's over.

Trans and looksmaxxing is greenfield economy for these guys, the corruption is a loosh engine whether it gets consumed or not is your personal belief. It spins, and spins and spins and nothing gets solved ever.

 

[porco-dddio]

They don't want to cure you because of how it affects power, profits and micro-games. The loosh is a side-effect and you can take it or leave it if you want. Management is always more profitable than the cure and when you're "spent" like a nuclear rod, they leave you to die of exposure. The patients are the pimp's BPD whores, the doctors get in when it's good and dump her when it's over.

Trans and looksmaxxing is greenfield economy for these guys, the corruption is a loosh engine whether it gets consumed or not is your personal belief. It spins, and spins and spins and nothing gets solved ever.

its a complex logic that only these people can "solve" and their demands for randoms to "solve" their loosh imaginary game is annoying. I dont share their views of reality.

 

[Depresso]

its a complex logic that only these people can "solve" and their demands for randoms to "solve" their loosh imaginary game is annoying. I dont share their views of reality.

Even with the social media panopticon and surveillance, they were going to leave you to die by exposure. It's passive so there's no smoking barrel. Euthanasia is just a practical admission of something that people denied for a long time.

 

[porco-dddio]

Even with the social media panopticon and surveillance, they were going to leave you to die by exposure. It's passive so there's no smoking barrel. Euthanasia is just a practical admission of something that people denied for a long time.

Im lost I cant understand any "logic" of that nonsense. I suppose if they die, with them dies also their theory which is cool

 

[Wolfstorm]

Loosh theory is real. You assign a part of yourself to some egregore and leave it there, filling space in your mind. So now you have less mind to interact with the world, while the egregore got more power. Its like those spells in a videogame where, while they remain active, decreases your total mana by some amount. In other words, loosh is egregore maintenance inside your soul.
For instance, someone in his 20s doing chemistry, but at the same time interested in le epic battles of Alexander the Great, will have less power to dedicate to chemistry, than someone not interested in le epic battles, but fully commited to chemistry. Now the first guy is feeding the egregore of le epic movies with le epic crowds simulating le epic battles full of /pol/ epicness and belonging to the history of the great ancient race that now is reduced to soylent drinkers. The first guy is now having loosh extracted by le epic /pol/ chud egregore, and will be a half-chemist since he will have his mind busy with political concerns. The second guy, though, has no mind for politics, and is obsessed with chemistry, so becoming a brilliant scientist. That's why one should be delusional about his dreams. By being obsessed and delusional, you prevent your loosh from being extracted by distractions. If you are obsessed and delusional, notifications will not hook you, they will annoy you instead.