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For those who don't know my story, I began gymcelling as a giga skinny framecel and hopped on roids which destroyed me with acne then I hopped on accutane which left me with brutal scarring due to a giga rare side effect I experienced on it which turned parts of my skin tissue on my back and shoulders to jelly which then converted to keloid scarring.
After this happened I managed to figure out how to roid without this shit happening again so I just ran size game in nightclubs during my slaying peak but shirtless game ended for me before it even began (Attended one festival shirtless and slayed at it before the issues started)
Fast forward several years later and I experience issues with a viral infection when I felt run down from overworking and it wreaks havoc on my gums leaving them inflamed.
I consult a dentist and they tell me to come back when it has settled and they perform scaling on my gums which turns my gumline black and the black part of the gumline erodes once I start using an anti bacterial mouthwash, I tell the dentist about this and they claim it was nothing to do with the procedure (I fed the info into AI and they confirmed the procedure was the reason)
From that point on I could never go anywhere without having floss to floss immediately after meals because my gums no longer served as protection against food trappings because of how much they had receded
Fast forward another few years when I get jaw surgery done and finally feel free after pre and post surgery orthodontics and I'm fully content with my face.
I seek gum treatment to restore my gumline and a dentist tells me I would need orthodontics again to give the gum treatment the best chance of working by fixing the angles of the roots.
I accept it as a necessary burden to get to my end goal and rather than overthinking it I just drop the money on the ortho and start it
Only a few weeks into the treatment and I notice it shifting my jaw out of position even though 20 weeks of post surgery orthodontics never did that (maybe coz I had elastics and was planned to keep jaw in place)
So I immediately decide I will start wearing the aligners in reverse to do everything I can to get back to my starting point to restore my mandible position to where I'm comfortable with it being, I am hopeful I can restore it 100% as I'm still in this process
I then enter some of my oral bacteria lab test results into AI and it confirms that I have a genetic condition that creates too much bacteria when my immune system is weakened which destroys my gums, but it confirms that every dentist intervention I had in a bid to help it actually did far more damage than had I just done nothing.
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Now we get to the point of contradiction
Had I never roided thus never had a need for accutane I wouldn't have triggered my rare genetic response to accutane and ended up scarred for life
Had I not gone to the dentist after I was hit with the brutal viral infection, I wouldn't have suffered treatment that damaged my already weakened gums before they had time to repair, meaning I wouldn't have to floss after every meal because my gums would still be largely intact
Had I not agreed to the recent ortho treatment in a bid to prepare me for gum fixing treatment (Which I discovered from AI would've failed anyway because of my oral bacteria test results) I wouldn't have had my mandible moved out of it's post jaw surgery position which I am now working to reverse.
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Despite taking action fucking my up more things than had I done nothing in these instances, it's a 2 sided coin whereby constantly taking action in all avenues gets you further ahead overall but means you'll be left with some scars due to wrong moves.
Had I not had the ambition to try ascend with roids, I would not have eventually gone on my slaying spree when I ran roided size game after I fucked myself up with scars
Had I not had the ambition to ascend in general, I may have never found out that I had a recessed maxilla that required jaw surgery to fix
Had I not gotten the additional ortho work now and quit after a couple of weeks, I may have continued wasting my time on other gum destroying treatment and ended up getting ortho work further down the line that I got too deep into to prevent me from turning back to original occlusion.
At least now I am 100% out of the ortho game once I get my attachments off.
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The moral of the story is that if you start as an incel and try to ascend, you may get badly burned along the way due to genetic defects raising their head to leave you scarred for life (keloid scarring, destroyed gums) but having a mindset where you will just give solutions a try and then bail on them as soon as you figure out they're a negative rather than continuing due to the sunken cost, means you should win more times than you lose in the long run.
Being able to throw away 2k paid so far on orthodontics means nothing to me now as I know it was the cost of trying, failing and moving forward
The younger me would've been more likely to stay commited and end up suffering months of mental anguish over my changing jaw position
Yes there are times when it's best to just do nothing as it relates to certain ventures, but I can only feel confident in doing nothing once I feel I have exhausted the potentially beneficial routes to find out they weren't beneficial
After this happened I managed to figure out how to roid without this shit happening again so I just ran size game in nightclubs during my slaying peak but shirtless game ended for me before it even began (Attended one festival shirtless and slayed at it before the issues started)
Fast forward several years later and I experience issues with a viral infection when I felt run down from overworking and it wreaks havoc on my gums leaving them inflamed.
I consult a dentist and they tell me to come back when it has settled and they perform scaling on my gums which turns my gumline black and the black part of the gumline erodes once I start using an anti bacterial mouthwash, I tell the dentist about this and they claim it was nothing to do with the procedure (I fed the info into AI and they confirmed the procedure was the reason)
From that point on I could never go anywhere without having floss to floss immediately after meals because my gums no longer served as protection against food trappings because of how much they had receded
Fast forward another few years when I get jaw surgery done and finally feel free after pre and post surgery orthodontics and I'm fully content with my face.
I seek gum treatment to restore my gumline and a dentist tells me I would need orthodontics again to give the gum treatment the best chance of working by fixing the angles of the roots.
I accept it as a necessary burden to get to my end goal and rather than overthinking it I just drop the money on the ortho and start it
Only a few weeks into the treatment and I notice it shifting my jaw out of position even though 20 weeks of post surgery orthodontics never did that (maybe coz I had elastics and was planned to keep jaw in place)
So I immediately decide I will start wearing the aligners in reverse to do everything I can to get back to my starting point to restore my mandible position to where I'm comfortable with it being, I am hopeful I can restore it 100% as I'm still in this process
I then enter some of my oral bacteria lab test results into AI and it confirms that I have a genetic condition that creates too much bacteria when my immune system is weakened which destroys my gums, but it confirms that every dentist intervention I had in a bid to help it actually did far more damage than had I just done nothing.
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Now we get to the point of contradiction
Had I never roided thus never had a need for accutane I wouldn't have triggered my rare genetic response to accutane and ended up scarred for life
Had I not gone to the dentist after I was hit with the brutal viral infection, I wouldn't have suffered treatment that damaged my already weakened gums before they had time to repair, meaning I wouldn't have to floss after every meal because my gums would still be largely intact
Had I not agreed to the recent ortho treatment in a bid to prepare me for gum fixing treatment (Which I discovered from AI would've failed anyway because of my oral bacteria test results) I wouldn't have had my mandible moved out of it's post jaw surgery position which I am now working to reverse.
------------------------------------------------------------
Despite taking action fucking my up more things than had I done nothing in these instances, it's a 2 sided coin whereby constantly taking action in all avenues gets you further ahead overall but means you'll be left with some scars due to wrong moves.
Had I not had the ambition to try ascend with roids, I would not have eventually gone on my slaying spree when I ran roided size game after I fucked myself up with scars
Had I not had the ambition to ascend in general, I may have never found out that I had a recessed maxilla that required jaw surgery to fix
Had I not gotten the additional ortho work now and quit after a couple of weeks, I may have continued wasting my time on other gum destroying treatment and ended up getting ortho work further down the line that I got too deep into to prevent me from turning back to original occlusion.
At least now I am 100% out of the ortho game once I get my attachments off.
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The moral of the story is that if you start as an incel and try to ascend, you may get badly burned along the way due to genetic defects raising their head to leave you scarred for life (keloid scarring, destroyed gums) but having a mindset where you will just give solutions a try and then bail on them as soon as you figure out they're a negative rather than continuing due to the sunken cost, means you should win more times than you lose in the long run.
Being able to throw away 2k paid so far on orthodontics means nothing to me now as I know it was the cost of trying, failing and moving forward
The younger me would've been more likely to stay commited and end up suffering months of mental anguish over my changing jaw position
Yes there are times when it's best to just do nothing as it relates to certain ventures, but I can only feel confident in doing nothing once I feel I have exhausted the potentially beneficial routes to find out they weren't beneficial
