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Philosophy Why does death exist for humanity ?

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That's probably the ultimate Black Pill of existence. Death is the most certain, and everything else is cope.
Or maybe a white pill.

Why dont we know anything? Why we we were not born with infinite wisdom and knowledge?
Then we'd all be God and then there would be no more drama.

Why can't be be invincible and live forever without old age ? Why can't we be living in that world instead ?
Meaning would end before you do.
 
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I wonder how jews and other people who think that humans are pinnacle of creation cope with this like turtles longevity or crocodiles regeneration abilities the creator had those programs are their disposal so why no gift their masterpiece with such advancements??
 
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Why can't be be invincible and live forever without old age ? Why can't we be living in that world instead ?
That’s a heavy question for a Thursday, but honestly, it’s the ultimate million dollar mystery. You basically have three different ways to look at it depending on what kind of mood you're in.

If you're feeling the science vibe, you have to look at entropy. It’s a basic law of the universe that everything eventually moves from order to chaos, so our bodies are just following the same physics as a dying star or a rusted-out car.
Then you have the religious angle, which is a bit more of a mic drop: the wages of sin are death. That frames the whole thing as a consequence rather than a glitch like we broke the original contract and now the bill is coming due.
Or you could go the philosophical route and realize that if we were actually invincible, nothing would ever be special. Scarcity is what gives life value. Death is basically just the universe’s way of giving us a deadline so we don't spend eternity sitting on the couch doing nothing.


Personally, I think it’s a mix of all three. Without an ending, the story doesn't really have a point, right? Which one of those paths feels more "real" to you?
 
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The original old testament has Lilith and the Christian Bible has two stories about how Eve was created one made of Adam and other probably made after to appease the feminism bullshit where she is created indepently
Ah, I see what happened. You’re yapping from the Jewish folklore and SMT canon, not the actual Bible.
That whole Lilith-as-first-wife story comes from the Alphabet of Ben Sira, which was written about a thousand years after the Old Testament. It’s basically the 10th-century version of a Reddit thread trying to explain away why Genesis has two creation accounts.

Fun fact in the Talmud written between 300–500 AD, it mentions her as a winged demon, but not as Adam's wife.
So yeah it's just more Jewish fanfiction. If you're Christian everything after the new testament that was written by the Jews means nothing so yeah.
 
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Ah, I see what happened. You’re yapping from the Jewish folklore and SMT canon, not the actual Bible.
That whole Lilith-as-first-wife story comes from the Alphabet of Ben Sira, which was written about a thousand years after the Old Testament. It’s basically the 10th-century version of a Reddit thread trying to explain away why Genesis has two creation accounts.

Fun fact in the Talmud written between 300–500 AD, it mentions her as a winged demon, but not as Adam's wife.
So yeah it's just more Jewish fanfiction. If you're Christian everything after the new testament that was written by the Jews means nothing so yeah.
What about muslim abrahamic trilogy is she canon there or non existent?
also according to a guy who does esotheric-religion lore in juicetube all demons are male even if according to some other lore angels are supposed to be genderless and sexless then again they fucked with the daughters of men which makes 0 sense
 
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What about muslim abrahamic trilogy is she canon there or non existent?
also according to a guy who does esotheric-religion lore in juicetube all demons are male even if according to some other lore angels are supposed to be genderless and sexless then again they fucked with the daughters of men which makes 0 sense
Any time Lilith is brought into the 'canon' as a person or a wife, it’s basically just Jewish folklore/fanfiction from the 8th–10th century, or cool occult/anime stuff like Shin Megami Tensei and Evangelion.
By the time that 'first wife' story was even written down, the Christian and Muslim canons were already long finished and set in stone. In the actual religious texts, she’s non-existent.

And on your sneaky little spoiler,
you're right that it makes 0 sense if you think about it biologically, but that's the point. In the actual canon, God and angels aren't biological—He’s the Alpha and Omega, not a dude with a 'donger.'
The 'masculine' descriptions are just a human way of describing power. When the 'sons of God' interacted with humans in Genesis 6, it was a spiritual violation, not a biology project. Trying to figure out the 'sex' of a fallen angel is like trying to figure out the gender of a hurricane.
 
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Any time Lilith is brought into the 'canon' as a person or a wife, it’s basically just Jewish folklore/fanfiction from the 8th–10th century, or cool occult/anime stuff like Shin Megami Tensei and Evangelion.
By the time that 'first wife' story was even written down, the Christian and Muslim canons were already long finished and set in stone. In the actual religious texts, she’s non-existent.

And on your sneaky little spoiler,
you're right that it makes 0 sense if you think about it biologically, but that's the point. In the actual canon, God and angels aren't biological—He’s the Alpha and Omega, not a dude with a 'donger.'
The 'masculine' descriptions are just a human way of describing power. When the 'sons of God' interacted with humans in Genesis 6, it was a spiritual violation, not a biology project. Trying to figure out the 'sex' of a fallen angel is like trying to figure out the gender of a hurricane.
Feels like Christianity and Muslim lores are like the Plato to the ancient Greek myth and heroes removing all fantasy and heroic stuff with reason and philosophy then you reach Book of Revelation and it has lot of crazy stuff again.
 
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Feels like Christianity and Muslim lores are like the Plato to the ancient Greek myth and heroes removing all fantasy and heroic stuff with reason and philosophy then you reach Book of Revelation and it has lot of crazy stuff again.
I think you're missing the 'heroes' that are actually there. Christianity and Islam have tons of them, they just aren't Greek demigods.
In the Orthodox tradition, the 'canon' of lives lived for God is always growing through the Saints. Their stories are full of miracles and crazy endurance, but it’s about sacrifice, not just being a 'strong guy' who kills monsters.
Just because there aren't dragons every five pages doesn't mean it isn't heroic; it's just a different type of heroism based on internal strength and miracles rather than just physical 'fantasy' stuff. And in the end it can all just be classified as fantasy.
 
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