Serious gagging when i see milk????

[Schwarzwald]

No, what, they absolutely were.

Prove first that there is such a thing as an appeal to nature, give me one example of something natural that is bad for you, I have been waiting.

I don't think you fully understand what I said.

 

[Jack the Ripper]

I don't think you fully understand what I said.

You said: Appeal to Nature fallacy, the idea that because something doesn't happen in the "wild," it’s somehow a mistake or a bug.
There is no such thing as an appeal to nature, and everything that does not happen in the wild is a mistake, a bug, an abomination.

 

[Schwarzwald]

You said: Appeal to Nature fallacy, the idea that because something doesn't happen in the "wild," it’s somehow a mistake or a bug.
There is no such thing as an appeal to nature, and everything that does not happen in the wild is a mistake, a bug, an abomination.

Ok for one, I was quoting a logical fallacy that ks called an appeal to nature, our friend said earlier said:

It's quite common actually since humans weren't naturally meant to drink milk after the breastfeeding period.

"Humans weren't naturally meant to drink milk", I rejected that notion and said why. I believe you are now coming at this from a religious lens where I'm talking about philosophy.

Modern hygiene and medicine are the only reasons most of us survive past infancy. Living for 70-80 years is technically "unnatural" compared to the "wild" average of 30-40, but nobody is calling a long life an abomination. Idk what this return to monke thread has turned to.

 

[Jack the Ripper]

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Ok for one, I was quoting a logical fallacy that ks called an appeal to nature, our friend said earlier said:

"Humans weren't naturally meant to drink milk", I rejected that notion and said why. I believe you are now coming at this from a religious lens where I'm talking about philosophy.

Modern hygiene and medicine are the only reasons most of us survive past infancy. Living for 70-80 years is technically "unnatural" compared to the "wild" average of 30-40, but nobody is calling a long life an abomination. Idk what this return to monke thread has turned to.

Where do I even begin? You're a joke.

 

[Schwarzwald]

Where do I even begin? You're a joke.

Haha where start somewhere so I can get the in on the joke.

 

[Jack the Ripper]

Haha where start somewhere so I can get the in on the joke.

Humans lived longer in the past.

 

[The Patriarchy]

Humans lived longer in the past.

SOme humans lived longer in the past?

 

[Schwarzwald]

Humans lived longer in the past.

It's not unheard of, but it's not the average.

 

[Jack the Ripper]

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It's not unheard of, but it's not the average.

They counted infant deaths, that chart is pure foolishness.

 

[Jack the Ripper]

Total meat intake is positively correlated with higher life expectancy independent of caloric intake or wealth, whereas carbohydrate show a negative correlation in cross-sectional data from 175 contemporary populations.

 

[The Patriarchy]

Total meat intake is positively correlated with higher life expectancy independent of caloric intake or wealth, whereas carbohydrate show a negative correlation in cross-sectional data from 175 contemporary populations.

Can you point where things shifted? I thought it shifted in ancient times when time keeping was a new idea.

 

[Schwarzwald]

They counted infant deaths, that chart is pure foolishness.

Total meat intake is positively correlated with higher life expectancy independent of caloric intake or wealth, whereas carbohydrate show a negative correlation in cross-sectional data from 175 contemporary populations.

Honestly idk how we got to this point I'm going to need some coffee.

 

[Jack the Ripper]

Honestly idk how we got to this point I'm going to need some coffee.

 

[Schwarzwald]

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Haha ok ok calm down now, coffee is halal.

Ok let's pause for a second we have appeal to novelty and and appeal to nature.

Appeal to Nature: "This is good because it's how we did it in the wild."
Appeal to Novelty: "This is good because it’s the latest firmware update."

Im not even arguing that things are good just because they are new; I am arguing that things are good because they work like the "firmware update" that allowed humans to stop dying at 30. It's not good or bad because it's in nature or if it's man made.

Total meat intake is positively correlated with higher life expectancy independent of caloric intake or wealth, whereas carbohydrate show a negative correlation in cross-sectional data from 175 contemporary populations.

And this what's your point? Do you want me to argue that? Your right I agree that refined carbs are a mess and high protein diets are healthy. Seed oils, refined sugars, and high carb diets can be very unhealthy.

I really don't get what you are arguing.

>comparing a human central nervous system to a spider's web.

That chart is literally a stress test for an insect’s nervous system, not a guide for how a 180lb mammal processes "natural" alkaloids. Comparing my morning coffee to a spider losing its ability to spin a web is a massive reach.

Smallpox is natural, is it good?

 

[PoopyPigeon]

Classic example of the Appeal to Nature fallacy, the idea that because something doesn't happen in the "wild," it’s somehow a mistake or a bug. In reality, being able to drink milk as an adult is one of the most successful "firmware updates" in human history.

Bruv, I never saud that drinking milk is wrong or anything. I just stated it's unnatural and feeling like gagging is very common unlike what OP thinks. In fact I agree with the latter part of your statement.

We got the downfall of @Schwarzwald before GTA VI.

 

[Jack the Ripper]

Haha ok ok calm down now, coffee is halal.

Ok let's pause for a second we have appeal to novelty and and appeal to nature.

Appeal to Nature: "This is good because it's how we did it in the wild."
Appeal to Novelty: "This is good because it’s the latest firmware update."

Im not even arguing that things are good just because they are new; I am arguing that things are good because they work like the "firmware update" that allowed humans to stop dying at 30. It's not good or bad because it's in nature or if it's man made.



And this what's your point? Do you want me to argue that? Your right I agree that refined carbs are a mess and high protein diets are healthy. Seed oils, refined sugars, and high carb diets can be very unhealthy.

I really don't get what you are arguing.

>comparing a human central nervous system to a spider's web.

That chart is literally a stress test for an insect’s nervous system, not a guide for how a 180lb mammal processes "natural" alkaloids. Comparing my morning coffee to a spider losing its ability to spin a web is a massive reach.

Smallpox is natural, is it good?

 

[Jack the Ripper]

it's unnatural and feeling like gagging is very common

What Does the Quran Say About Milk?​

Milk is mentioned in the Quran in these verses:

[16:66] And in the livestock there is a lesson for you: we provide you with a drink from their bellies. From the midst of digested food and blood, you get pure milk, delicious for the drinkers.
[23:21] And the livestock should provide you with a lesson. We let you drink (milk) from their bellies, you derive other benefits from them, and some of them you use for food.
[47:15] The allegory of Paradise that is promised for the righteous is this: it has rivers of unpolluted water, and rivers of fresh milk, and rivers of wine – delicious for the drinkers – and rivers of strained honey. They have all kinds of fruits therein, and forgiveness from their Lord. (Are they better) or those who abide forever in the hellfire, and drink hellish water that tears up their intestines?

 

[Schwarzwald]

Bruv, I never saud that drinking milk is wrong or anything. I just stated it's unnatural and feeling like gagging is very common unlike what OP thinks. In fact I agree with the latter part of your statement.

We got the downfall of @Schwarzwald before GTA VI.

Stating it's 'unnatural' is literally the definition of the fallacy I just cited... Amazing.

We got the downfall of @Schwarzwald before GTA VI.

That means so little coming from you and would imply I was on an higher place at some point.