If attractiveness isn't objective then why do normies talk about leagues ?

[sadcel]

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[Memento Mori]

It is

 

[sadcel]

It is

just shoot your shot bro

 

[The Patriarchy]

Not all leagues are looks. A looks match is the desperate hope of an incel. A league is just saying a fine wine for a fine gentleman. Not a fine wine for a fine wine.

 

[Memento Mori]

just shoot your shot bro

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[sadcel]

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You're preaching to the choir.

 

[Memento Mori]

You're preaching to the choir.

I said it is objective

 

[sadcel]

I said it is objective

Scientifically it is. Im just pointing out normie hypocrisy.

 

[Memento Mori]

Scientifically it is. Im just pointing out normie hypocrisy.

Interesting

 

[Jack the Ripper]

Interesting

Attraction is subjective, an African for example will not find Asians as attractive as another race might.
That said, the definition of pretty is natural.

 

[Gilgamesh]

Attractiveness is objective, preference is subjective
soys use the later to refute that some people are measurably better looking than others

 

[Jack the Ripper]

Attractiveness is objective, preference is subjective
soys use the later to refute that some people are measurably better looking than others

I mean it's very possible to find someone attractive whom no one else does, and vice versa.

 

[sadcel]

Attractiveness is objective, preference is subjective
soys use the later to refute that some people are measurably better looking than others

Good point.

 

[Gilgamesh]

I mean it's very possible to find someone attractive whom no one else does.

yeah but can always be many variables involved like proximity, social circles, accessibility, etc. People still usually settle for the best available to them in their environment and call it a life.
It doesn't really disprove that patterns of attractiveness exist

 

[sadcel]

I mean it's very possible to find someone attractive whom no one else does, and vice versa.

Good luck finding the person who will find you attractive if you're not.

Statistically it's a hard task.

 

[Jack the Ripper]

It doesn't really disprove that patterns of attractiveness exist

There is only one pattern of attractiveness which is health, and the rest is up to specific variables, so looks is subjective, but beauty is objective in the sense that an ugly couple can look beautiful together, for example.

 

[Gilgamesh]

There is only one pattern of attractiveness which is health, and the rest is up to specific variables, so looks is subjective, but beauty is objective in the sense that an ugly couple can look beautiful together, for example.

You could argue it is universal but at the same time subreddits like deathfeedists exist for people who get off on fetishizing the morbidly obese. Health is a clear indicator of fertility/virility or whatever, but preferences still part from that reference point.

Deviation from the norm doesn't disprove

 

[Jack the Ripper]

You could argue it is universal but at the same time subreddits like deathfeedists exist for people who get off on fetishizing the morbidly obese. Health is a clear indicator of fertility/virility or whatever, but preferences still part from that reference point.

Deviation from the norm doesn't disprove

Well yea like you said, there are fetishes, and complexes, but generally everyone wants a healthy partner, which also means well-developed the skull, facial and skeletal structure.

 

[Gilgamesh]

Well yea like you said, there are fetishes, and complexes, but generally everyone wants a healthy partner, which also means well-developed the skull, facial and skeletal structure.

So you admit there are patterns of attractiveness which was my original point

 

[Jack the Ripper]

So you admit there are patterns of attractiveness which was my original point

Ye the only pattern of attractiveness it all boils down to which is health; nature. When your body is properly nourished and your ancestors were healthy you are going to be well-developed.