Religion Sky daddy! Why or why not and the greater implications about reality and the afterlife!!!

[Schwarzwald]

Good evening!

A Prayer Before We Begin

In the name of Jehovah, Lord of Hosts, Architect of the Sky and Keeper of the NEETbux Ledger

Bless the NEETs, that their bux may arrive on time and their basements stay cool in summer.

Bless the incels, that they may find peace before they find a partner, and peace after too, whichever comes first.

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Bless the stock traders, that their candles be green, their diamond hands be steady, and their portfolios survive what their sleep schedules could not.

Bless every anon reading this in the dark at whatever hour their timezone has cursed them with, he lurkers, the shitposters, the true believers, and the ones just here for the bit.

May we argue in good faith tonight, or at least in entertaining faith. May the thread not get closed before someone says something truly deranged. And may Sky Daddy, whether He exists, doesn't exist, or exists and is simply screening our calls, forgive us for what we're about to post.

Amen. Now let's talk about God.

 

[Schwarzwald]

Come into this shelter and shed your burdens W @Wolfstorm !

Lament your grievances against the cross and our father in heaven!

Tell us how you have been wrong in your life and we will grieve together!

 

[Schwarzwald]

Respectfully requesting ya here my boi @Ishmael.

 

[Schwarzwald]

What is everyone's take on what happens after death?

I would be excited to hear everyone's view points from secular to reglion off all.

I would prefer you explained your personal thoughts on the matter rather then explain something you have read. The more personal the account the better.

I have a bit of a quantum idea of death, judgment and what "heaven" is and the relationship with God.

To put it simply I don't fully believe that I or almost anyone is going to heaven.

 

[Schwarzwald]

The floor is open to all topics of religion.

Try and keep it to personal beliefs.

 

[Ishmael]

I think one big issue many people have is assuming that God is an entity, or a 'person'. God is the energy source. The permanent origin of it. He makes up everything in physical reality because it's His bubble that He interacts with from the outside. He influences physical reality through manipulating the medium itself. This is part of why Jews have such a hard time with the 'Son' terminology when talking about Jesus. This is encoded in the name/concept Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh. It means "I AM THAT I AM." It's in direct response to a question of identity, and rather than provide a name, God replies in a concept. I am that I am. He just is. There isn't another descriptor. He is not an entity, 'He' really isn't even a 'He' in the traditional senses that we would think. The masculine part of God is the hardcoded parts of the universe. Logics, Laws of Physics and Nature, Math, etc. And often that is the part that we interact with most of the time. We get nudges, logical conclusions. If you pay attention God will let you know He's paying attention to you through subtle and specific signs. I can articulate what I have seen usually, which I suppose often avoids the schizophrenia/religious psychosis angle but I can understand not everyone might be able to.

 

[Autistic_tendencies2]

I think one big issue many people have is assuming that God is an entity, or a 'person'. God is the energy source. The permanent origin of it. He makes up everything in physical reality because it's His bubble that He interacts with from the outside. He influences physical reality through manipulating the medium itself. This is part of why Jews have such a hard time with the 'Son' terminology when talking about Jesus. This is encoded in the name/concept Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh. It means "I AM THAT I AM." It's in direct response to a question of identity, and rather than provide a name, God replies in a concept. I am that I am. He just is. There isn't another descriptor. He is not an entity, 'He' really isn't even a 'He' in the traditional senses that we would think. The masculine part of God is the hardcoded parts of the universe. Logics, Laws of Physics and Nature, Math, etc. And often that is the part that we interact with most of the time. We get nudges, logical conclusions. If you pay attention God will let you know He's paying attention to you through subtle and specific signs. I can articulate what I have seen usually, which I suppose often avoids the schizophrenia/religious psychosis angle but I can understand not everyone might be able to.

I think god is nature itself.. force of nature the intelligent amalgamation of earth wind fire and air… what are the signs ?

 

[newsincerity]

I think one big issue many people have is assuming that God is an entity, or a 'person'. God is the energy source. The permanent origin of it. He makes up everything in physical reality because it's His bubble that He interacts with from the outside. He influences physical reality through manipulating the medium itself. This is part of why Jews have such a hard time with the 'Son' terminology when talking about Jesus. This is encoded in the name/concept Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh. It means "I AM THAT I AM." It's in direct response to a question of identity, and rather than provide a name, God replies in a concept. I am that I am. He just is. There isn't another descriptor. He is not an entity, 'He' really isn't even a 'He' in the traditional senses that we would think. The masculine part of God is the hardcoded parts of the universe. Logics, Laws of Physics and Nature, Math, etc. And often that is the part that we interact with most of the time. We get nudges, logical conclusions. If you pay attention God will let you know He's paying attention to you through subtle and specific signs. I can articulate what I have seen usually, which I suppose often avoids the schizophrenia/religious psychosis angle but I can understand not everyone might be able to.

Source is a real person which can assume the form of a man but most people won't meet Him because they willed that at some point. They will be able to feel Source's energy and think that's what It is.

 

[Schwarzwald]

Source is a real person which can assume the form of a man but most people won't meet Him because they willed that at some point. They will be able to feel Source's energy and think that's what It is.

I respectfully disagree, but apparent your input and engagement! :D

 

[Schwarzwald]

I think god is nature itself.. force of nature the intelligent amalgamation of earth wind fire and air… what are the signs ?

Well I mean let's get down to the bare bones here, you are talking about an omnipresent form of "life" that is beyond time and space.

If we took a gnostic look we live in an imperfect ugly joke of reality.

But if we know at it from a heavenly father lense, he is life and love.

I think a more constructive way to look at him is the ultimate scientist/chemist/engineer/artist/musician.

Through what we understand alone he created all of our reality with a word and a breath.

 

[newsincerity]

Through what we understand alone he created all of our reality with a word and a breath.

We are the Source we created worlds too. It's not that difficult.

 

[Schwarzwald]

We are the Source we created worlds too. It's not that difficult.

Please elaborate so I do not miss understand and cause some sort of tension.

I'm assuming you are still implying from your purely gnostic lens *as opposed to a biblical/orthodox one*

If that is the case you seem to be under the impression that we came from the source and not a part of the source that was stolen?

 

[newsincerity]

Please elaborate so I do not miss understand and cause some sort of tension.

I'm assuming you are still implying from your purely gnostic lens" (as opposed to a biblical/orthodox one)

If that is the case you seem to be under the impression that we came from the source and not a part of the source that was stolen?

We are created by Source and come from Him
We are part of the Source because there is no separation where we come from
You can't steal Source

 

[Schwarzwald]

We are created by Source and come from Him
We are part of the Source because there is no separation where we come from
You can't steal Source

Thanks for the elaboration but I still don't follow.

Maybe I'm just not understanding what source (txt wise) you are drawing from because it's not biblical or gnostic, and I'm racking my brain trying to think of what your exactly meaning, honestly it doesn't have to be anything.

Nothing wrong with a little head cannon :3

And it's not a dualist system you are talking about.

Well it's good to believe in something.

 

[Schwarzwald]

What I really wanna know is what you guys believe happens after death...

 

[newsincerity]

Thanks for the elaboration but I still don't follow.

Maybe I'm just not understanding what source (txt wise) you are drawing from because it's not biblical or gnostic, and I'm racking my brain trying to think of what your exactly meaning, honestly it doesn't have to be anything.

Nothing wrong with a little head cannon :3

And it's not a dualist system you are talking about.

Well it's good to believe in something.

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The Bible is coauthored by Source.

What I really wanna know is what you guys believe happens after death...

Differs for everyone.
If you're a free soul you can will yourself to go back to Source, visit other souls, create worlds etc.

Contracted souls, 99% of humans have to free themselves first and it can be tricky to do so without help. The tunnel of light appears or you simply wake up where they keep your energy. Continuation of the loosh farm in astral.

 

[Schwarzwald]

The Bible is coauthored by Source.

Seems more like this is straightforwardly personal cosmology what you are describing and nothing wrong with that.

Probably the best place to disengage on the last topic.

Differs for everyone.
If you're a free soul you can will yourself to go back to Source, visit other souls, create worlds etc.

Contracted souls, 99% of humans have to free themselves first and it can be tricky to do so without help. The tunnel of light appears or you simply wake up where they keep your energy. Continuation of the loosh farm in astral.

Well if the Bible is your source, what happens after death is sleep.

 

[Schwarzwald]

some do sleep

If you are sourcing the Bible, the person who dies, all of us eventually, will go into a form of sleep, status , pause whatever terminology you wanna use until judgement day.

And "heaven" is communion with god, in your wording the source.

Revelation 21-22

"a new heaven and a new earth," the New Jerusalem descending down to earth, not humanity being raptured up and away from it. God's dwelling explicitly described as being "with man," on earth. "Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man."

The reality in addition makes no different because it's instantaneous for the individual. Death, out of time into sleep, reserection for judgment.

I think we can cut it off here, it's a perfect point we both expressed and elaborated what we thought, we got our points across.

 

[newsincerity]

And "heaven" is communion with god, in your wording the source.

sure

I think we can cut it off here, it's a perfect point we both expressed and elaborated what we thought, we got our points across.

I spam your thread

 

[Schwarzwald]

sure

I spam your thread

No you can spam all day, infact we can continue this conversation. I never put forth what I think.

In a lot of way it just doesn't seem like you wish to engage fully and that's more then fine.

The idea of heaven being communion with god is close to what you said from your frame work, it rhymes but again we all can't believe in the same thing and I don't think that's a problem I was just trying to understand you better and isn't that what life's really about, understanding your fellow man? :3

 

[Schwarzwald]

sure

I spam your thread

All are welcome in any thread I make from the humble "nigger" troll poster to the righteous "engager"

Spam away, sling your arrows, ready your drinks.

Rest if you need rest.

 

[Schwarzwald]

I didn't ask but do tell

Ill analogizing to keep in sync with your brevity :D

For me I believe in God.

I believe in the one who created from his voice and breath.

We have to understand he created everything, the same way a writer puts in a line to a book or a programer adds in an Easter eggs.

It's like a quantum computer made in the method of an automatic spring watch, shit is complicated and we complicate it more with our thinking and rationalize of the "rules".

God has given us multiple guides and instructions that basically just tell us to wind it up lol, but the adversary or the devil is like nah twin, take that shit apart, you can make it better.

"you will be like God, knowing good and evil" Genesis 3:) , just take that fucking watch apart.

Look at us now, broken watch and the snake just laughing at us.

The serpent's move was never sin is good, it was the limit is arbitrary, disassemble it and see.

The devil isn't about telling us to sin it's about telling us we don't need God.

And that's what a real Satanist is someone who puts themselves above God, puts themselves at an equal position.

The devil is real and he is cunning

I think looking at reality from a Jungian lense is the best if you must go secular.

Aw see I didn't keep it brief and you didn't want to hear it in the first place, caught my left self almost lost in my own mind.

 

[newsincerity]

Ill analogizing to keep in sync with your brevity :D

For me I believe in God.

I believe in the one who created from his voice and breath.

We have to understand he created everything, the same way a writer puts in a line to a book or a programer adds in an Easter eggs.

It's like a quantum computer made in the method of an automatic spring watch, shit is complicated and we complicate it more with our thinking and rationalize of the "rules".

God has given us multiple guides and instructions that basically just tell us to wind it up lol, but the adversary or the devil is like nah twin, take that shit apart, you can make it better.

"you will be like God, knowing good and evil" Genesis 3:) , just take that fucking watch apart.

Look at us now, broken watch and the snake just laughing at us.

The serpent's move was never sin is good, it was the limit is arbitrary, disassemble it and see.

The devil isn't about telling us to sin it's about telling us we don't need God.

And that's what a real Satanist is someone who puts themselves above God, puts themselves at an equal position.

That doesn't make any sense because they still put themselves under Satan

The devil is real and he is cunning

I think looking at reality from a Jungian lense is the best if you must go secular.

Aw see I didn't keep it brief and you didn't want to hear it in the first place, caught my left self almost lost in my own mind.

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Satan could still return to Source that's the wildest part

 

[Schwarzwald]

That doesn't make any sense because they still put themselves under Satan

I'm not here to convince you though even if I think you don't understand what I said.

Satan could still return to Source that's the wildest part

If you think so, you'd be in a lonely room with that idea.

 

[Ishmael]

Differs for everyone.
If you're a free soul you can will yourself to go back to Source, visit other souls, create worlds etc.

Contracted souls, 99% of humans have to free themselves first and it can be tricky to do so without help. The tunnel of light appears or you simply wake up where they keep your energy. Continuation of the loosh farm in astral.

Among this and the other information you've given; how did you find this out?

The devil is real and he is cunning

I think looking at reality from a Jungian lense is the best if you must go secular.

Aw see I didn't keep it brief and you didn't want to hear it in the first place, caught my left self almost lost in my own mind.

I have some very interesting information about Jung and theology as well as an encounter he had with what I personally believe was a demonic entity that deceived him. Are you aware of his Red Book?

We are created by Source and come from Him
We are part of the Source because there is no separation where we come from
You can't steal Source

"We are 'created' by God and 'come' from Him.
We are part of God because there is no separation between the creation and God, they are one in the same
You can't 'steal' a piece of yourself if you are the source."

Did I get that right? I think I understand.