Whitepill I stopped caring about chasing foids, getting accepted by society and being liked by normies tbh

[Memento Mori]

Before I used to cope that I could achieve those things by looksmaxxing. I've become more self accepting and realise now that it's a cucked mindset to have being an abused dog crawling back to the people who rejected you. Also they don't really have any value in the first place.

 

[ZZEBRA813]

Ugly cope

 

[SidharthTheSlayer]

Those are still valuable experiences, if you aren't pursuing them for shallow reasons like validation.

 

[Memento Mori]

Those are still valuable experiences, if you aren't pursuing them for shallow reasons like validation.

Not really, society and normies just suck in the first place

 

[Myst]

One could say life begins once you free yourself from enslavement to society but it's easier said than done, especially when taking in the fact that the average person's livelihood is almost completely relied on society itself. Not everyone has the luxury of escaping to a town in the country-side.

 

[SidharthTheSlayer]

Not really, society and normies just suck in the first place

You’re coping tbh
Archetypal experiences will never be a bad thing for you.

 

[GripMaxxing]

tbh!

i want to become a eunuch :o

 

[fartcannon420]

Before I used to cope that I could achieve those things by looksmaxxing. I've become more self accepting and realise now that it's a cucked mindset to have being an abused dog crawling back to the people who rejected you. Also they don't really have any value in the first place.

there's always a balance. you're right in saying it's a cucked mindset to be an abused dog crawling back.

there's two types of people; followers and leaders. leaders are practically incapable of serving under another person comfortably, in spite of their extreme cooperation skills that allow them to be leaders in the first place. leaders can vary in many ways, some being 'more important' than others in the societal sphere. (i.e. they will do the more important jobs). the overwhelming majority of leader's brains are simply not programmed to work in the herd, but to be the shepherd.

where does this relate to you? well, it's very possible that you yourself are incapable of fully merging with the society that rejected you in the first place. society really should be something you connect into and then disconnect from after you're done using it, like a service. i have a firm belief that you cannot work on yourself when you're plugged into everyone else. society has its uses and can be used for your benefit, you just have to learn to navigate it in your own way. value is present, which may be a given of course, but it's very case dependent.

honestly? you probably could still "looksmaxx" yourself into a visually appealing person, but that does not undo anything or reprogram you, it merely gives you a new coat of paint. you aren't the abused dog you claim to be outright unless you honestly view yourself that way. it's not a very flattering look for yourself and i'm sure you could work on that too. you are the sum of your parts, how could you be any more than you are if you are (apparently) a shitty person? i don't mean to make too many assumptions here but it seems like you're viewing it from a negative mindspace.

 

[Myst]

honestly? you probably could still "looksmaxx" yourself into a visually appealing person, but that does not undo anything or reprogram you, it merely gives you a new coat of paint. you aren't the abused dog you claim to be outright unless you honestly view yourself that way. it's not a very flattering look for yourself and i'm sure you could work on that too. you are the sum of your parts, how could you be any more than you are if you are (apparently) a shitty person? i don't mean to make too many assumptions here but it seems like you're viewing it from a negative mindspace.

While I do agree that it's more of a grey area rather than black and white, I just can't agree with "oh your just viewing it negatively bro!", I mean not to sound rude but that sounds like cope, what if I AM a terrible person? I myself have so much love to give but I can be just as much an asshole as I can be loving a lot of the time, and while I DO feel bad about it afterwards, that doesn't change the fact that what I did wasn't okay (for example, shooing my little brother away for no good reason other than I wanna be alone despite me being alone majority of the time, which is quite unfair to him). And while my case doesn't compare to an actually evil person, I think my point still stands.

 

[fartcannon420]

While I do agree that it's more of a grey area rather than black and white, I just can't agree with "oh your just viewing it negatively bro!", I mean not to sound rude but that sounds like cope, what if I AM a terrible person? I myself have so much love to give but I can be just as much an asshole as I can be loving a lot of the time, and while I DO feel bad about it afterwards, that doesn't change the fact that what I did wasn't okay (for example, shooing my little brother away for no good reason other than I wanna be alone despite me being alone majority of the time, which is quite unfair to him). And while my case doesn't compare to an actually evil person, I think my point still stands.

A bad person does not consider other's feelings (other than to abuse them.) or have guilt for doing objective wrong. Negative mindspace kills all optimistic momentum. Terrible people develop from good people who don't for one reason or another take the right path. I think most people are not psychopaths incapable of interpreting or having emotions which is a cornerstone for growth. You are not one of those people, you are entitled to a good life with good deeds under your belt and you owe it to yourself to be the best you can.