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Religion Religion One of my biggest existential Fears regarding Death, and the Abrahamic religions.

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I used to be a fedora tipper all my life. But I eventually realized Atheism was a mistake in 2016.

But I didn't have anything to replace it with. I eventually came to accept that modern secular morals aren't secular at all. They're christian in nature and origin. You can debate on that all you want. But that's not the point of this post. My problem with christianity is that the words of a Galilean carpenter are not a legitimate source of ethics, law or morality.

So I started setting up my own code of ethics, and one of them was that everything from the academia to marriage should have EXTREMELY high barriers to entry, and EXTREMELY low barriers to exit. I told one of my few foid friends about this. DW, she's a based foid and hates shitskins, just like me. She's also a catholic, and she just said "You do know that all the stuff you're talking about is already being taught by the catholic church, right?"

I was like "fuck..."

I kept looking into christian apologetic stuff. I stumbled upon this pastor. Pastor Knetchle. I was intrigued by his responses to Mohamadeanism, Hindooism and even Buddhism. These were already views I held. Then in one video he argues about ethics with an atheist student who says that Christ was just a nice guy who said nice things. And the pastor says he doesn't think that's possible, because there is no evidence whatsoever to support the statement that during his time, he was considered a mere secular teacher.

This was a HUUGE Breaking point for me. Because earliest Buddhist sources don't attribute divinity or miracles to Buddha... And then it turned out that Richard Dawkins actually lied about this in his book, and he admits to lying. And all the apostles swore under torture that Christ was the LITERAL son of God, and that he rose from the dead. The older the archeological evidence we find, it all points to christ being divine. I felt like Asmongold going "No, wait... that can't be true... HOLY SHIT...".

My conclusion was that Christianity was the most air tight and elaborate hoax in all of human history, OR Christ was divine. Either way, I had to treat the bible as any other historical document...

There was also the fact that Alex O Connor and others have pointed out, that it was really Odd for the joos to start worshipping a man as the literal of God. Specially since Jesus was crucified. This is not what the messiah was supposed to do. The Joos have had other messiahs like Sabbatai Sevi who's only worshipped by an obscure sect. Realistically, Christianity should've been some obscure sect. There are other reasons... like how Christianity spread, despite early christians being persecuted.

There are some other stuff I concluded about the source of ethics, authority, and I started to hate Islam more and more, because I realized, like atheism, it rejects Christs divinity...

But that's not what this post is about... all of this is just an introduction....

I realized that UAPs look suspisciously simmilar to those renditions of biblically accurate angels.

And the more I looked at it, it looked a blackhole, with servos around around it. And the servos had eyes(Cameras)

Tell me this shit doesn't look like a hyper advanced machine...
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And tell me this doesn't look like this:

1771867301475.png



If you looked at videos of these things, they genuinely look they're spinning/vibrating...

But it turns out there's an entire subculture that believes that Angels are aliens.

When Moses asks God to show him his Glory, God refuses and only passes by Moses. Almost as if it were a space ship. Also, the literaly translation of Glory here is actually "heavy object". WTF?????

Then there's the part about the hebrews following a pillar of smoke during the day and a pillar of fire at night. It's as if a spaceship guides them with a smoke screen, and then with literal Flashlights at night...

Now... I'm not saying Angels are aliens, or UAPs are Angels. But... I do think that UAPs and Angels in the bible are the same thing. Because even people's reactions to seeing UFOS/UAPs are eeriely simmilar to how people react to angels.

And despite the atheists saying that Christianity plagiarizes things. WHAT OTHER CIVILIZATION in the near eastern region has entities that look like this...

Not to mention, christianity is the only religion that relies on it's metaphysics been extremely literal. Buddha is said to have shot fire and water from his skin. But this is not something that is fundamental to buddhism. But Christ's divinity is.... Even pagans understood their metaphysics to be allegorical.

Now... this is what I'm afraid of....

As you all know, I'm deeply suicidal... I have plans to kms, once I've exhausted all options...

My fear is... that I will kms... and I will have to meet these entities.... all video evidence we have of them show them moving at extremely high speeds which are physically impossible. Some believe that UAPs don't operate by our world's physics. This means they have access to something that overrides physics....


My fear is that after I die, I meet these entities, and they don't have good intentions for me. Like, they somehow extract my soul, and then I meet them on the astral plane.

Islam complicates the matter. I dismissed momo as a schizo, but... all of momo's revealations are in complete opposite to the encounters in the old and new testaments. Momo describes being in pain, and the angel beating him up or something. Apparently even joseph smith describes feeling pain... I think momo was more than a mere schizo, becaue he want to kill himself after getting revealtions. Some believe momo actually recieved revealations from the devil. There's some stuff in the koran about momo redacting revealtions saying they were from the devil...

What if, after my death, I have to face whatever entity that momo encountered.


What if different entities or aliens species have been intervening at specific pressure points on our planet to shape it's future...

WHAT IF crusades/jihads were alien proxy wars on earth????

Or maybe Islam was introduced into the equation as a catalyst, to help strengthen christians by having them fight against barbarians....

idk.


I used to be terrified of dying. That my life will just end...

Now I'm deadly scared that it won't end....
 
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When Moses asks God to show him his Glory, God refuses and only passes by Moses. Almost as if it were a space ship. Also, the literaly translation of Glory here is actually "heavy object". WTF?????

Then there's the part about the hebrews following a pillar of smoke during the day and a pillar of fire at night. It's as if a spaceship guides them with a smoke screen, and then with literal Flashlights at night...

Now... I'm not saying Angels are aliens, or UAPs are Angels. But... I do think that UAPs and Angels in the bible are the same thing. Because even people's reactions to seeing UFOS/UAPs are eeriely simmilar to how people react to angels.

And despite the atheists saying that Christianity plagiarizes things. WHAT OTHER CIVILIZATION in the near eastern region has entities that look like this...

Not to mention, christianity is the only religion that relies on it's metaphysics been extremely literal. Buddha is said to have shot fire and water from his skin. But this is not something that is fundamental to buddhism. But Christ's divinity is.... Even pagans understood their metaphysics to be allegorical.

Now... this is what I'm afraid of....

As you all know, I'm deeply suicidal... I have plans to kms, once I've exhausted all options...

My fear is... that I will kms... and I will have to meet these entities.... all video evidence we have of them show them moving at extremely high speeds which are physically impossible. Some believe that UAPs don't operate by our world's physics. This means they have access to something that overrides physics....


My fear is that after I die, I meet these entities, and they don't have good intentions for me. Like, they somehow extract my soul, and then I meet them on the astral plane.

Islam complicates the matter. I dismissed momo as a schizo, but... all of momo's revealations are in complete opposite to the encounters in the old and new testaments. Momo describes being in pain, and the angel beating him up or something. Apparently even joseph smith describes feeling pain... I think momo was more than a mere schizo, becaue he want to kill himself after getting revealtions. Some believe momo actually recieved revealations from the devil. There's some stuff in the koran about momo redacting revealtions saying they were from the devil...

What if, after my death, I have to face whatever entity that momo encountered.


What if different entities or aliens species have been intervening at specific pressure points on our planet to shape it's future...

WHAT IF crusades/jihads were alien proxy wars on earth????

Or maybe Islam was introduced into the equation as a catalyst, to help strengthen christians by having them fight against barbarians....

idk.


I used to be terrified of dying. That my life will just end...

Now I'm deadly scared that it won't end....
The self is an "illusion" generated by the brain. Thoughts appears without a thinker, there is no ghost in the machine. There is no soul, there is no core, there is no essence. The only thing close to that are simply genes. Read neuroscientist and philosophy of mind Thomas Metzinger's The Ego Tunnel.



We are products of causes and conditions, hence no free-will. Most of life occurs at the unconscious level, so who's to blame? Our brains? Causality? Only those who by causes and consigns crate enough self-referential conscious loops of thought through therapy, self-assessment and the like can 'escape' some of their conditioning.



Stop believing in one of the most retarded religions which projects what they adore (God) and fear (Satan) of themselves into outside entities. Realize this projections depend on causes and conditions such as the brutality of ancient life and the need to believe in something. Observe how God takes the form of the goodest of parents, realize it is the absolute panacea of comfort.



At least Buddhism got it right with causality (karma), and has nice explanations on how to alter your behavior and purify your mind via mindfulness practices such as loving-kindness meditation.



You know fucking why?



I think I experience the so called Christ consciousness two weeks ago:




Mom told I was speaking as Christ. Though I think this is all pure bullshit and states of mind
Thus they are impermanent but you can cultivate them via metta meditation. Look r/streamentry for people practicing for the first level of Buddhist enlightenment.


There was a man that spoke about how you can experience all sorts of mystical things, but at the end, it is all biology.


Read on U.G. Krishnamurti and his calamity at 49 years old.
 
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I used to be a fedora tipper all my life. But I eventually realized Atheism was a mistake in 2016.

But I didn't have anything to replace it with. I eventually came to accept that modern secular morals aren't secular at all. They're christian in nature and origin. You can debate on that all you want. But that's not the point of this post. My problem with christianity is that the words of a Galilean carpenter are not a legitimate source of ethics, law or morality.

So I started setting up my own code of ethics, and one of them was that everything from the academia to marriage should have EXTREMELY high barriers to entry, and EXTREMELY low barriers to exit. I told one of my few foid friends about this. DW, she's a based foid and hates shitskins, just like me. She's also a catholic, and she just said "You do know that all the stuff you're talking about is already being taught by the catholic church, right?"

I was like "fuck..."

I kept looking into christian apologetic stuff. I stumbled upon this pastor. Pastor Knetchle. I was intrigued by his responses to Mohamadeanism, Hindooism and even Buddhism. These were already views I held. Then in one video he argues about ethics with an atheist student who says that Christ was just a nice guy who said nice things. And the pastor says he doesn't think that's possible, because there is no evidence whatsoever to support the statement that during his time, he was considered a mere secular teacher.

This was a HUUGE Breaking point for me. Because earliest Buddhist sources don't attribute divinity or miracles to Buddha... And then it turned out that Richard Dawkins actually lied about this in his book, and he admits to lying. And all the apostles swore under torture that Christ was the LITERAL son of God, and that he rose from the dead. The older the archeological evidence we find, it all points to christ being divine. I felt like Asmongold going "No, wait... that can't be true... HOLY SHIT...".

My conclusion was that Christianity was the most air tight and elaborate hoax in all of human history, OR Christ was divine. Either way, I had to treat the bible as any other historical document...

There was also the fact that Alex O Connor and others have pointed out, that it was really Odd for the joos to start worshipping a man as the literal of God. Specially since Jesus was crucified. This is not what the messiah was supposed to do. The Joos have had other messiahs like Sabbatai Sevi who's only worshipped by an obscure sect. Realistically, Christianity should've been some obscure sect. There are other reasons... like how Christianity spread, despite early christians being persecuted.

There are some other stuff I concluded about the source of ethics, authority, and I started to hate Islam more and more, because I realized, like atheism, it rejects Christs divinity...

But that's not what this post is about... all of this is just an introduction....

I realized that UAPs look suspisciously simmilar to those renditions of biblically accurate angels.

And the more I looked at it, it looked a blackhole, with servos around around it. And the servos had eyes(Cameras)

Tell me this shit doesn't look like a hyper advanced machine...
1771867198819.png



And tell me this doesn't look like this:

1771867301475.png



If you looked at videos of these things, they genuinely look they're spinning/vibrating...

But it turns out there's an entire subculture that believes that Angels are aliens.

When Moses asks God to show him his Glory, God refuses and only passes by Moses. Almost as if it were a space ship. Also, the literaly translation of Glory here is actually "heavy object". WTF?????

Then there's the part about the hebrews following a pillar of smoke during the day and a pillar of fire at night. It's as if a spaceship guides them with a smoke screen, and then with literal Flashlights at night...

Now... I'm not saying Angels are aliens, or UAPs are Angels. But... I do think that UAPs and Angels in the bible are the same thing. Because even people's reactions to seeing UFOS/UAPs are eeriely simmilar to how people react to angels.

And despite the atheists saying that Christianity plagiarizes things. WHAT OTHER CIVILIZATION in the near eastern region has entities that look like this...

Not to mention, christianity is the only religion that relies on it's metaphysics been extremely literal. Buddha is said to have shot fire and water from his skin. But this is not something that is fundamental to buddhism. But Christ's divinity is.... Even pagans understood their metaphysics to be allegorical.

Now... this is what I'm afraid of....

As you all know, I'm deeply suicidal... I have plans to kms, once I've exhausted all options...

My fear is... that I will kms... and I will have to meet these entities.... all video evidence we have of them show them moving at extremely high speeds which are physically impossible. Some believe that UAPs don't operate by our world's physics. This means they have access to something that overrides physics....


My fear is that after I die, I meet these entities, and they don't have good intentions for me. Like, they somehow extract my soul, and then I meet them on the astral plane.

Islam complicates the matter. I dismissed momo as a schizo, but... all of momo's revealations are in complete opposite to the encounters in the old and new testaments. Momo describes being in pain, and the angel beating him up or something. Apparently even joseph smith describes feeling pain... I think momo was more than a mere schizo, becaue he want to kill himself after getting revealtions. Some believe momo actually recieved revealations from the devil. There's some stuff in the koran about momo redacting revealtions saying they were from the devil...

What if, after my death, I have to face whatever entity that momo encountered.


What if different entities or aliens species have been intervening at specific pressure points on our planet to shape it's future...

WHAT IF crusades/jihads were alien proxy wars on earth????

Or maybe Islam was introduced into the equation as a catalyst, to help strengthen christians by having them fight against barbarians....

idk.


I used to be terrified of dying. That my life will just end...

Now I'm deadly scared that it won't end....
yep I know what you mean I felt this dread too
we've probably been traumatised by evil entities between lives and that's why we instinctively fear them
JayJay @JayJay is coping which is good because they want you to fear
 
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yep I know what you mean I felt this dread too
we've probably been traumatised by evil entities between lives and that's why we instinctively fear them
JayJay @JayJay is coping which is good because they want you to fear
Coping in what sense... I'm just hyper disillusioned. I've tried everything and nothing has worked so far...

If something, I don't even know how to cope anymore with a body that's breaking down honestly.

Though, I agree that meditation and prayer bring lots of benefits. Loving-kindness meditation will really give you great mental health benefits and a degree of self satisfaction never seen before. We are designed to believe in something after all or so I remember reading on a book.
 
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Coping in what sense... I'm just hyper disillusioned. I've tried everything and nothing has worked so far...

If something, I don't even know how to cope anymore with a body that's breaking down honestly.

Though, I agree that meditation and prayer bring lots of benefits. Loving-kindness meditation will really give you great mental health benefits and a degree of self satisfaction never seen before. We are designed to believe in something after all or so I remember reading on a book.
mirin groundedness in 3D reality and egocentrism
tbh these things like abductions possessions weird dreams only happen to those who are ungrounded to begin with or very unlucky
maybe it's me simply coping that if we can't deduce the real reason it must be paranormal or connected to past life etc. and I believe many things at face value
realistically all of these things can be blamed on you being a delusional freak or positively explained as mind phenomena
reality is painful and boring
 
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mirin groundedness in 3D reality and egocentrism
tbh these things like abductions possessions weird dreams only happen to those who are ungrounded to begin with or very unlucky
maybe it's me simply coping that if we can't deduce the real reason it must be paranormal or connected to past life etc. and I believe many things at face value
realistically all of these things can be blamed on you being a delusional freak or positively explained as mind phenomena
reality is painful and boring
I never understand anything of what you say.
 
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Memento Mori @Memento Mori can you explain for him

At its core, the post is a cynical take on skepticism versus spirituality. The author is trying to convince themselves that "magic" isn't real, even if reality feels a bit bleak without it.
Here is the "TL;DR" breakdown:
  • The Theory: Paranormal experiences (ghosts, aliens, etc.) aren't external events; they are symptoms of being "ungrounded" or mentally disconnected from the physical world.
  • The Self-Correction: The author admits that humans often use "the paranormal" as a coping mechanism to make sense of things we can’t explain.
  • The Conclusion: All supernatural claims are likely just brain glitches (mind phenomena).
  • The Vibe: A mix of envy for people who are "normal" and a realization that while reality is "boring," it’s the only thing that is actually real.
 
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At its core, the post is a cynical take on skepticism versus spirituality. The author is trying to convince themselves that "magic" isn't real, even if reality feels a bit bleak without it.
Here is the "TL;DR" breakdown:
  • The Theory: Paranormal experiences (ghosts, aliens, etc.) aren't external events; they are symptoms of being "ungrounded" or mentally disconnected from the physical world.
  • The Self-Correction: The author admits that humans often use "the paranormal" as a coping mechanism to make sense of things we can’t explain.
  • The Conclusion: All supernatural claims are likely just brain glitches (mind phenomena).
  • The Vibe: A mix of envy for people who are "normal" and a realization that while reality is "boring," it’s the only thing that is actually real.
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