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[Deleted member 612]

A graphene takeover could turn the human body into the grey form.

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

Meh... aliens shouldn't have an animalian rib cage or else we would be from the same tree of life (cousins) or have the same god or gods.

So you would be more surprised in seemingly "human" like aliens?

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

I would expect some convergence like similar skin or lungs but not exoplanet hominid ape humans unless they're related.

And why is that?

Planet piss unrelated but still impressive.

 

[Suigin Trismegistus]

I think the documents released that corroborate weird shit seen during the Apollo missions is the most interesting so far. We should be getting more documents, photos and videos released in the coming weeks. They still haven't set up the aliens.gov site yet.

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

A graphene takeover could turn the human body into the grey form.

Well the main theory is that the greys are a future us but stripped of our humanity. Sometimes I like to imagine that we arnt alone in the galaxy but that we are just late to the party of ascending to a higher plane/4d-5d.

The fact you seem to pass out when on a high enough dose of DMT to break through always made me think that our trust selves is really some ghost that occupies this suit of flesh. The fact we are so attached to it in terms of thinking it's our true self rather then just a vehicle that takes us from point a to point b.

 

[Suigin Trismegistus]

Well the main theory is that the greys are a future us but stripped of our humanity.

Other theory is that they're biological robots who are servants of the tall whites / nordics aka the so called "Annunaki." Listen to Travis Walton's abduction account.

 

[Deleted member 612]

our trust selves is really some ghost that occupies this suit of flesh.

I dont believe consciousness is inside the physical body, but outside it, and the body acts as a antenna and/or interface through which consciousness interacts with the physical world. And we can't swap bodies while connected to it.

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

Yeah. That seems pretty off the reservation, they gave us too much intelligence for a slave race. If anything they are more like cosmic vampires.

They clearly have the tech and power to enslave us, wipe us out, rape us or help us. Yet it stays a cold indifference. You'll hear time to time of them trying to warn us, that could all be just there "peta" trying to help while the rest of the aliens could be just fine watching flop around like a dying in out of the water.

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

I dont believe consciousness is inside the physical body, but outside it, and the body acts as a antenna and/or interface through which consciousness interacts with the physical world. And we can't swap bodies while connected to it.

I have discussed this topic here before and I have the same conclusion.


Here is where it started:

Thread 'humans are brains' https://elysianfields.se/threads/humans-are-brains.7882/

Clearly I didn't start the thread.

And the idea blossoms out here:

Thread 'The Vertiginous Question (or: Why the Hell Am I This Particular Bag of Meat and Regret?)' https://elysianfields.se/threads/th...-this-particular-bag-of-meat-and-regret.7913/

You know what doesn't get mentioned enough in this conversation I see is Jon podesta leaked emails about aliens and ufos.

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

Or giving us space to develop our own wisdom.

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That come off as wishful thinking. They seemingly have been here for over 2000 years.

When we observe apes do we wish for them do develop wisdom? Or when you watch dolphins or ants in a nature documentary?

It's often said that they were here before the dinosaurs. We can speculate all sorts of magical happy thoughts of what the savior aliens are doing but it is just that magical thinking. No one is coming to save us no one is coming to stop the bad man no one is coming to deliver us from our own sin.

 

[Deleted member 612]

If this was the correct conclusion, then the "aliens" would know this too

It is possible to have aliens who dont have physical bodies and connect only through nanomachines, these made by physical aliens.
It is also possible to have hivemind aliens who dont have a fixed physical body. Fungi, for instance, have intelligence on their own. It is possible to have more developed space fungi who would have trived in less hostile environments, taking over physical hosts or even having telepathic abilities.
When I talk about bodies being antennas, I imagine some kind of psychic frequency which cant be detected by the current human tech. Aliens could have this tech, and applications in order to exert influence in a more covert and fluid way.

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

They would have just as much interest in removing rape from the carousel as we would do. Unless they are sub IQ 50 using religion as a vehicle to reach AI development and have an IQ 40K AI serving sub 50 interests.

They know they didn't choose to be born as themselves.

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We don't even know how long there life span is, let alone what interests them. The we only go off speculation.

Some facts we can assume, they didn't make us as slaves for gold mining. That is low consciousness thinking that creatures that can travel through time and space and can genetically modify creatures on a different planet can't find an astroid with gold in it.

They have technology that could wipe us all out in the blink of an eye but don't.

That being said they have the technology to help us but they don't.

It's assumed that they have meet with our leaders from times to time. It's can be assumed they don't share our values.

It's clear we are still running blind in terms of technology and philosophy.

What seemingly fits is that the greys are basically biobots running on autopilot with no new commands.

what honestly fits the bill the most is that they are demons.

 

[Deleted member 612]

In the theory of soul shattering, souls would be fragmented into different pieces, each piece being a version of yourself from your own past, with his own aspirations and desires. If each version would be in conflict with one another, the soul would shatter, and each fragment would reincarnate in the future, in different dates, with the memories wiped out.
This is not possible naturally, though, because the universe would need to expel the information from each fragment to the causal plane. However, aliens could have the tech to make reincarnation possible, fragmenting the souls, wiping their memories, and denying information to the causal plane. Hence why reincarnation is an alien scam/ponzi.

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

Or daemons?

What do you work for the djin? Saying daemons like you are sparing someone's feelings, demons from the pit.

Not daemons like trapped spirits working for some unknown goal.

This one really haunts me only because of the shooting.

Shot 6 times with hollow points 45's, one of those shots in the head. Two weeks go by and the guy is back on his feet and accepting some job for the government.

The real issue with these things being aliens is and not some malevolent spirits is that they have not spread out into the universe, they seemingly are only interested in this planet. They do not colonize any other planet, they don't terraform mars. They most likely live or dwell on a different realm of reality. Such a huge investment to watch some creators on another planet. Yet we have documentation of them or "glimpses" of them and have documented strange crafts in the sky for decades. It's not like we haven't noticed. What's the point where is the goal? How do creatures with the ability to travel through space and time keep crashing on earth?

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

That's such a Christian Abrahamic concept to call them all demons and associate them with Hell. Even Islam does not do that to them come on.


What if it's a gas station universe?

I already said that earth is just a back water planet where aliens get cheap rolexs and do sex tourism.

Im talking about the same creature that John Dee and king Solomon describe in their writing. You are welcome to call them whatever you want or mock me, I simply do not care. Humans get so caught up in terms or thinking a single word can define a complex system. No one's talking about cartoon devils or demons but the spirit traped to do work and that spirit is rarely alined with good or is happy to be trapped in its cage.

odd that you let such a simple verbal technicality bog you down so easily while discussing such abstract topics.
Makes me wonder...

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

In the theory of soul shattering, souls would be fragmented into different pieces, each piece being a version of yourself from your own past, with his own aspirations and desires. If each version would be in conflict with one another, the soul would shatter, and each fragment would reincarnate in the future, in different dates, with the memories wiped out.
This is not possible naturally, though, because the universe would need to expel the information from each fragment to the causal plane. However, aliens could have the tech to make reincarnation possible, fragmenting the souls, wiping their memories, and denying information to the causal plane. Hence why reincarnation is an alien scam/ponzi.

So Gnostic in quasi physics language? Are you implying the moon matrix/ recycler idea?

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

The sex tourism would make them human, definitely. I hope


I don't mean to mock you and you're right in that last sentence. A single word can refer to a complex system if it's jargon from that complex system.

I didn't take it as mocky I took it as someone who doesn't want to truly engage a topic and is easily thrown off when hearing something that doesn't align to their predisposition.

In any case I don't feel this is going anywhere productive and more.

I'll close with this, idk why you would assume that sex tourism would imply human, if anything it implies a creature that gains gratification from sexual release and that can me from many different forms. One of the most foul/complex forms of sexual gratification comes in the form of snuff. I recall last year stumbling apon a short snuff film of a man masturbating and at the hight of his completion his head was cut off with a machete. suffice it to say I don't wish to be a part of anyone fantasy or sexual gratification.

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

I logged off to go and study the moon matrix idea so I am engaging the topic. I was half-joking about the daemons, I just like using neutral terms.


Sex tourism implies human or at least terran (same tree of life) for many reasons but I would have to first ask you what you would imagine alien "biochemistry" and "psychology" to be like and what limits you place on the speculation. We would share the same math just not the sensory aesthetics with the aliens.

What makes their soul antenna/astrosuit tick and how is it socialised?

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Was this video on 4chan?

Well there is just no free lunch in the universe we live in. I find it hard to believe anything or one is out there/here benevolently help anyone or anything. Whether we choose to believe that or internalize that it seems to be apon the individual.

Have you ever heard the term "you can't be neutral on a moving train?" The implications are we are already on route to an end destination and to remain neutral is to accept that the end destination is your goal whether you agree with it or not, your neutrality is a sign of agreement.

Again I don't see how sex tourism would imply human. It only implies a dark gratification of an intelligent creature, and it's a dark gradofication because you know the thing giving you sexual gradofication isn't a willing participant. It really shows a dark insidious and sadistic creature at play and at best it shows a creater so indifferent to the life around it that it treats them as just an object.

You don't think there would be an willing participants to have freaky ass sex with a different life form? Or is the unwilling participant part of the interaction?

Again sex tourism is not a positive sign.
The question of biochemistry is actually a very interesting idea and might be the first one we have to answer.

Whether is is a hoax or not it brings up the very question.

We are carbon based creatures, if we follow that logic the reply to our message was that they are Silicon based, We’re looking at Programmable Matter.

that idea of manipulating the reality that much around them selves implies so much a a staggering difference in power scaling it is almost impossible to even pretend we are equals or ever will be. At best they could tolerate us in terms that we tolerate spiders or ants, as long as they arnt messing up out pickniks or making webs in the door way we will be quietly tolerated.

And then we go to the triple helix dna I have one mention on this forum the idea of a tri-cameral brain where in just like the mydocandra was absorbed by the cell millions of years ago we as carbon based life will absorb a silicon from of ai life creating a new form of living creature, a creature like this could live indefinitely and I have mentioned before that this would be us grabbing both fruits, of knowledge and of life. But this in turn means a drastic reduction of human life as we see it because why keep feeders and breeders around after becoming the peak of 3d evolution.

And what I image life to be is infinite I don't have a place where my mind won't go with it, currently as you has read in some of my post here that I believe that the human body and mind are antenna that pick up counsouness, that leaves the question is how unique is our signals and are they any different from the signals hitting an animal or a an alien, and this implies some sort of organ or source that isn't visible on this plan of existence.

The fact of the matter is we are blind deaf and dumb, our egos are too guarded to communicate with other forms of life and this conversation proves it, this might be such a hostile foreign idea to alien life that them reading it would but them on high alert to dangours, short tempered, quick to action temporally trapped apes they they have no need to speak with us ever.

Again I need to stress how little sensory data our body picks up, the mantis shrimp for example:

This doesn't even begin to pick up on sound, electromagnetic waves, air currents or echolocation to to mention any forms of esp.

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

I logged off to go and study the moon matrix idea so I am engaging the topic. I was half-joking about the daemons, I just like using neutral terms.


Sex tourism implies human or at least terran (same tree of life) for many reasons but I would have to first ask you what you would imagine alien "biochemistry" and "psychology" to be like and what limits you place on the speculation. We would share the same math just not the sensory aesthetics with the aliens.

What makes their soul antenna/astrosuit tick and how is it socialised?

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Was this video on 4chan?

Idk most videos tend to siv through that part of the internet once or twice. There are more places to go on the internet then 4chan and reddit.

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

This is human master of atoms



Stick figure short movies...


And death....

Oh! or boiling water with hot rocks...

Fascinating shit really...

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

Small addition the message we sent in the 70's implied our population was 4.29 billion as it was at the time of the being made. The reply implied the aliens population was 12.3 billion at the time and I'm sure they are more uniformed then we are.

They out number us, they put tech us, and I assume they just don't want to deal with he issues of earth. Who can blame them all our problems are Self imposed, and we only take violent actions to keep the abusers in power. Why the fuck would any rational entity waste its time , power , or resources to help us? Just for us to fuck it up again? We choose to suffer to let us suffer, it is our lot in life and I place the blame on those who remain neutral.

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

Simply put we are not sending our best we arnt even trying.

We have put in power some of the worst people we could offer and we continue to let them remain in power.

These are some quotes

"Palantir CEO Alex Karp made controversial comments regarding the legal constraints on military actions, framed within the context of his company's business"

"Might Makes Right" Philosophy: In a 2025 letter to shareholders, Karp quoted scholar Samuel Huntington, arguing that the “rise of the West was not made possible 'by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion… but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence,'” positioning this as a source of inspiration."

The company that wants to give AI full power on taking human life and who's homosexual owner can't stop talking about the antichrist wants more power.

Palantir CEO Says Legalizing War Crimes Would Be Good for Business

Palantir CEO Alex Karp recently rhapsodized that US air strikes on Venezuelan civilians would be good for business, if only it were legal.

futurism.com

Does this sound like a people you would want to help if you were an alien?

Seriously?

When you watch them abort millions of babies rather then just not have sex or safe sex? A race of creatures that lets 900 lb fat discussing women be filmed for entertainment while children starve in other countries? A race of creatures who thinks raping a baby would cure aids? What makes human life so spectacular when put under a microscope? Especially if the implications are there is life all over the galaxy it just has not interest in talking to us?

Humanity is a joke.

And it's not a very funny one.

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

 

[Suigin Trismegistus]

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[Deleted member 612]

Again I need to stress how little sensory data our body picks up, the mantis shrimp for example:
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This doesn't even begin to pick up on sound, electromagnetic waves, air currents or echolocation to to mention any forms of esp.

Emily Miller case comes to mind. It is a urban legend, but it could have some truth to it.
The entrails she saw on the sky could be the walls of the universe, that our vision was not trained to see.