News Religious leaders told to prepare for ayyy disclosure

[Depresso]

@Suigin Trismegistus Do you think we have the same god in our local group of meaning?

 

[Suigin Trismegistus]

@Suigin Trismegistus Do you think we have the same god in our local group of meaning?

Maybe. But once you have electrogravitic propulsion, you have a time machine. Could be us from the future.

 

[Wolfstorm]

A graphene takeover could turn the human body into the grey form.

 

[Schwarzwald]

Meh... aliens shouldn't have an animalian rib cage or else we would be from the same tree of life (cousins) or have the same god or gods.

So you would be more surprised in seemingly "human" like aliens?

 

[Depresso]

So you would be more surprised in seeming "human" like aliens?

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I would expect some convergence like similar skin or lungs but not exoplanet hominid ape humans unless they're related.

 

[Schwarzwald]

I would expect some convergence like similar skin or lungs but not exoplanet hominid ape humans unless they're related.

And why is that?

Planet piss unrelated but still impressive.

 

[Depresso]

And why is that?
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Planet piss unrelated but still impressive.

Different evolution story and environment variables, would they even be counted as "mammals"? That's if they're from another planet or even planetary to begin with.

 

[Depresso]

Non-planetary "life" — That's when the mindfuck begins

 

[Suigin Trismegistus]

I think the documents released that corroborate weird shit seen during the Apollo missions is the most interesting so far. We should be getting more documents, photos and videos released in the coming weeks. They still haven't set up the aliens.gov site yet.

 

[Schwarzwald]

A graphene takeover could turn the human body into the grey form.

Well the main theory is that the greys are a future us but stripped of our humanity. Sometimes I like to imagine that we arnt alone in the galaxy but that we are just late to the party of ascending to a higher plane/4d-5d.

The fact you seem to pass out when on a high enough dose of DMT to break through always made me think that our trust selves is really some ghost that occupies this suit of flesh. The fact we are so attached to it in terms of thinking it's our true self rather then just a vehicle that takes us from point a to point b.

 

[Suigin Trismegistus]

Well the main theory is that the greys are a future us but stripped of our humanity.

Other theory is that they're biological robots who are servants of the tall whites / nordics aka the so called "Annunaki." Listen to Travis Walton's abduction account.

 

[Wolfstorm]

our trust selves is really some ghost that occupies this suit of flesh.

I dont believe consciousness is inside the physical body, but outside it, and the body acts as a antenna and/or interface through which consciousness interacts with the physical world. And we can't swap bodies while connected to it.

 

[Schwarzwald]

Yeah. That seems pretty off the reservation, they gave us too much intelligence for a slave race. If anything they are more like cosmic vampires.

They clearly have the tech and power to enslave us, wipe us out, rape us or help us. Yet it stays a cold indifference. You'll hear time to time of them trying to warn us, that could all be just there "peta" trying to help while the rest of the aliens could be just fine watching flop around like a dying in out of the water.

 

[Depresso]

Yeah. That seems pretty off the reservation, they gave us too much intelligence for a slave race. If anything they are more like cosmic vampires.

They clearly have the tech and power to enslave us, wipe us out, rape us or help us. Yet it stays a cold indifference. You'll hear time to time of them trying to warn us, that could all be just there "peta" trying to help while the rest of the aliens could be just fine watching flop around like a dying in out of the water.

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Or giving us space to develop our own wisdom.

 

[Schwarzwald]

I dont believe consciousness is inside the physical body, but outside it, and the body acts as a antenna and/or interface through which consciousness interacts with the physical world. And we can't swap bodies while connected to it.

I have discussed this topic here before and I have the same conclusion.


Here is where it started:

Thread 'humans are brains' https://elysianfields.se/threads/humans-are-brains.7882/

Clearly I didn't start the thread.

And the idea blossoms out here:

Thread 'The Vertiginous Question (or: Why the Hell Am I This Particular Bag of Meat and Regret?)' https://elysianfields.se/threads/th...-this-particular-bag-of-meat-and-regret.7913/

You know what doesn't get mentioned enough in this conversation I see is Jon podesta leaked emails about aliens and ufos.

 

[Depresso]

I dont believe consciousness is inside the physical body, but outside it, and the body acts as a antenna and/or interface through which consciousness interacts with the physical world. And we can't swap bodies while connected to it.

If this was the correct conclusion, then the "aliens" would know this too

 

[Schwarzwald]

Or giving us space to develop our own wisdom.

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That come off as wishful thinking. They seemingly have been here for over 2000 years.

When we observe apes do we wish for them do develop wisdom? Or when you watch dolphins or ants in a nature documentary?

It's often said that they were here before the dinosaurs. We can speculate all sorts of magical happy thoughts of what the savior aliens are doing but it is just that magical thinking. No one is coming to save us no one is coming to stop the bad man no one is coming to deliver us from our own sin.

 

[Depresso]

That come off as wishful thinking. They seemingly have been here for over 2000 years.

When we observe apes do we wish for them do develop wisdom? Or when you watch dolphins or ants in a nature documentary?

It's often said that they were here before the dinosaurs. We can speculate all sorts of magical happy thoughts of what the savior aliens are doing but it is just that magical thinking. No one is coming to save us no one is coming to stop the bad man no one is coming to deliver us from our own sin.

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They would have just as much interest in removing rape from the carousel as we would do. Unless they are sub IQ 50 using religion as a vehicle to reach AI development and have an IQ 40K AI serving sub 50 interests.

They know they didn't choose to be born as themselves.

 

[Wolfstorm]

If this was the correct conclusion, then the "aliens" would know this too

It is possible to have aliens who dont have physical bodies and connect only through nanomachines, these made by physical aliens.
It is also possible to have hivemind aliens who dont have a fixed physical body. Fungi, for instance, have intelligence on their own. It is possible to have more developed space fungi who would have trived in less hostile environments, taking over physical hosts or even having telepathic abilities.
When I talk about bodies being antennas, I imagine some kind of psychic frequency which cant be detected by the current human tech. Aliens could have this tech, and applications in order to exert influence in a more covert and fluid way.

 

[Schwarzwald]

They would have just as much interest in removing rape from the carousel as we would do. Unless they are sub IQ 50 using religion as a vehicle to reach AI development and have an IQ 40K AI serving sub 50 interests.

They know they didn't choose to be born as themselves.

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We don't even know how long there life span is, let alone what interests them. The we only go off speculation.

Some facts we can assume, they didn't make us as slaves for gold mining. That is low consciousness thinking that creatures that can travel through time and space and can genetically modify creatures on a different planet can't find an astroid with gold in it.

They have technology that could wipe us all out in the blink of an eye but don't.

That being said they have the technology to help us but they don't.

It's assumed that they have meet with our leaders from times to time. It's can be assumed they don't share our values.

It's clear we are still running blind in terms of technology and philosophy.

What seemingly fits is that the greys are basically biobots running on autopilot with no new commands.

what honestly fits the bill the most is that they are demons.

 

[Depresso]

We don't even know how long there life span is, let alone what interests them. The we only go off speculation.

Some facts we can assume, they didn't make us as slaves for gold mining. That is low consciousness thinking that creatures that can travel through time and space and can genetically modify creatures on a different planet can't find an astroid with gold in it.

They have technology that could wipe us all out in the blink of an eye but don't.

That being said they have the technology to help us but they don't.

It's assumed that they have meet with our leaders from times to time. It's can be assumed they don't share our values.

It's clear we are still running blind in terms of technology and philosophy.

What seemingly fits is that the greys are basically biobots running on autopilot with no new commands.

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what honestly fits the bill the most is that they are demons.

Or daemons?

 

[Wolfstorm]

In the theory of soul shattering, souls would be fragmented into different pieces, each piece being a version of yourself from your own past, with his own aspirations and desires. If each version would be in conflict with one another, the soul would shatter, and each fragment would reincarnate in the future, in different dates, with the memories wiped out.
This is not possible naturally, though, because the universe would need to expel the information from each fragment to the causal plane. However, aliens could have the tech to make reincarnation possible, fragmenting the souls, wiping their memories, and denying information to the causal plane. Hence why reincarnation is an alien scam/ponzi.

 

[Schwarzwald]

Or daemons?

What do you work for the djin? Saying daemons like you are sparing someone's feelings, demons from the pit.

Not daemons like trapped spirits working for some unknown goal.

This one really haunts me only because of the shooting.

Shot 6 times with hollow points 45's, one of those shots in the head. Two weeks go by and the guy is back on his feet and accepting some job for the government.

The real issue with these things being aliens is and not some malevolent spirits is that they have not spread out into the universe, they seemingly are only interested in this planet. They do not colonize any other planet, they don't terraform mars. They most likely live or dwell on a different realm of reality. Such a huge investment to watch some creators on another planet. Yet we have documentation of them or "glimpses" of them and have documented strange crafts in the sky for decades. It's not like we haven't noticed. What's the point where is the goal? How do creatures with the ability to travel through space and time keep crashing on earth?

 

[Depresso]

What do you work for the djin? Saying daemons like you are sparing someone's feelings, demons from the pit.

Not daemons like trapped spirits working for some unknown goal.

That's such a Christian Abrahamic concept to call them all demons and associate them with Hell. Even Islam does not do that to them come on.

The real issue with these things being aliens is and not some malevolent spirits is that they have not spread out into the universe, they seemingly are only interested in this planet. They do not colonize any other planet, they don't terraform mars. They most likely live or dwell on a different realm of reality. Such a huge investment to watch some creators on another planet. Yet we have documentation of them or "glimpses" of them and have documented strange crafts in the sky for decades. It's not like we haven't noticed. What's the point where is the goal? How do creatures with the ability to travel through space and time keep crashing on earth?

What if it's a gas station universe?

 

[Schwarzwald]

That's such a Christian Abrahamic concept to call them all demons and associate them with Hell. Even Islam does not do that to them come on.


What if it's a gas station universe?

I already said that earth is just a back water planet where aliens get cheap rolexs and do sex tourism.

Im talking about the same creature that John Dee and king Solomon describe in their writing. You are welcome to call them whatever you want or mock me, I simply do not care. Humans get so caught up in terms or thinking a single word can define a complex system. No one's talking about cartoon devils or demons but the spirit traped to do work and that spirit is rarely alined with good or is happy to be trapped in its cage.

odd that you let such a simple verbal technicality bog you down so easily while discussing such abstract topics.
Makes me wonder...