Discussion Went to church first time

[Postman]

A fancy evangelist church with basically a cinema

Alot of speaking in tongues

Pastor didn't cuck and said God save us from lgbt and abortion lol

Overall felt good

 

[spooky_Heejin]

I only went inside a church once and that was to use the bathroom.

Pastor didn't cuck and said God save us from lgbt and abortion lol

73 million babies are aborted every year and god doesn't do shit. I wish he existed and would stop that shit but it's clear to me he would've done something by now if he existed.

 

[Myst]

I only went inside a church once and that was to use the bathroom.


73 million babies are aborted every year and god doesn't do shit. I wish he existed and would stop that shit but it's clear to me he would've done something by now if he existed.

I wanted to ask God why he allowed suffering, hunger and pain in the world but I was afraid he would ask me the same thing. (Not sure where this quote came from but I love it so much)
Life is a test, bad things and good things will happen so God can see how we deal with them.
If there was no evil in this world, how would we know what is good. How can we choose to be good if we have no option of being bad.

Do people think once they say, “We believe,” that they will be left without being put to the test? [29:2]

 

[Myst]

I only went inside a church once and that was to use the bathroom.


73 million babies are aborted every year and god doesn't do shit. I wish he existed and would stop that shit but it's clear to me he would've done something by now if he existed.

"This still makes no sense to me. Even if humans are being tested or are responsible for their suffering, why are animals suffering as well? There is so much needless cruelty in the animal kingdom that it makes me question my faith."

suffering is subjective you can be in pain and not suffer, look at the kung fu monks who can break stones with their heads and people who can withstand fire burning them willingly, they might scream from the pain but not necessarily suffer, i have been in pain and felt peace more than at a family dinner with anxiety, we don't know how the animals feel, they see what we don't see, they know Allah and they maybe living in our material world luckily due to knowledge available to us we know they might not be vibrating at the same frequency as we are in fact they might have all chose to come to earth live a little and move on no judgement or anything, just like we accepted to be tested and took the burden of responsibility, this is a logical explanation to your question a simpler explanation to a person of faith is to say trust Allah, the very concept of God is that he can't be benefited or harmed, if Allah wants to do something he does not need to explain to anyone or anything so when he says he does not wrong even an atom's worth that statement is all we need even if we don't understand because God does not need to lie he is highly exalted above that, the mere existence of us is prove of his divine selflessness to give life to others, he is the only true live being and he gave life, so when he says trust me don't you think he is deserving of that trust, it might not always make sense but like a child trusts his parents with sour medication, Allah is more deserving of that trust, so don't worry about other beings because you cannot comprehend how much Allah cares for them more than u can possibly imagine even if the "image" confuses you.

Hope this helped, brother.

 

[burn]

I wanted to ask God why he allowed suffering, hunger and pain in the world but I was afraid he would ask me the same thing. (Not sure where this quote came from but I love it so much)
Life is a test, bad things and good things will happen so God can see how we deal with them.
If there was no evil in this world, how would we know what is good. How can we choose to be good if we have no option of being bad.

Do people think once they say, “We believe,” that they will be left without being put to the test? [29:2]

"Life is a test" holy retard, this is insanity, a 10yr old child getting raped is just a test, u wanting to die is just a test.
Why isnt god testing your local drug dealer and killers why is he testing good innocent ppl.
If "god" loved u so much he wouldnt test u every sec he wouldnt let u suffer but whatever helps u cope

 

[Myst]

"Life is a test" holy retard, this is insanity, a 10yr old child getting raped is just a test, u wanting to die is just a test.
Why isnt god testing your local drug dealer and killers why is he testing good innocent ppl.
If "god" loved u so much he wouldnt test u every sec he wouldnt let u suffer but whatever helps u cope

Before I respond to this, why so rude?

 

[Smart Asian Kid]

Lately I’ve also been craving to go to church for some reason

 

[burn]

Before I respond to this, why so rude?

Im never rude to anyone, but i deeply hate religious ppl, the ppl that wanted me dead in this life the guys that i fought with daily that i was scared for my life, they believed in this faggot called god, the most messed up ppl that ik in life believe in god, nicest ppl i ever met were non religious.
I used to cry to god i was religious too, he never helped, i was like why my enemies have such amazing lifes, but not me i never sin and i get fucked in life, but the guys that sin have amazing lifes, that my friend shows how dumb religion is, it makes 0 sense its all bs i wasted my time being religious, it takes a normal iq person to realise that the stuff quran and bible say are all lies, this so called god is never gonna help the hurt the raped the sad ppl, also when u debate with religious ppl they always say over 100 different answers at the same time even they cant think of enough lies to tell lmao

 

[Myst]

Im never rude to anyone, but i deeply hate religious ppl, the ppl that wanted me dead in this life the guys that i fought with daily that i was scared for my life, they believed in this faggot called god, the most messed up ppl that ik in life believe in god, nicest ppl i ever met were non religious.
I used to cry to god i was religious too, he never helped, i was like why my enemies have such amazing lifes, but not me i never sin and i get fucked in life, but the guys that sin have amazing lifes, that my friend shows how dumb religion is, it makes 0 sense its all bs i wasted my time being religious, it takes a normal iq person to realise that the stuff quran and bible say are all lies, this so called god is never gonna help the hurt the raped the sad ppl, also when u debate with religious ppl they always say over 100 different answers at the same time even they cant think of enough lies to tell lmao

To start off, I agree that a lot of so called "religious" people turn out to be some of the scummiest individuals that often use religion as an excuse to justify their horrendous actions. My answer to this post and the previous one is a bit long so I'll be posting it after this one inshallah.

 

[Myst]

Who says my local drug dealer and murderer aren't being tested?

1. Allāh does not create pure evil or harm: whatever exists has elements of good. The overall good that will come out of a tragedy will eclipse the harm that it brought, provided humans have the right attitude. For example, let's look at the COVID 19 crisis as an example. On one hand, you may see how people suffer and die. But on the other hand, it brings families together and many people are remembering religion because of it. As Muslims, we will try to take the good from every circumstance, no matter if it may not appear good superficially. Remember that Muhammad SAW was an optimist, he tried looking for the good in every opportunity.
   
   
   
2. One of the effects of evil is that it brings about the attitude of combating that evil with good. In other words, who will be there to feed the poor when there are no poor people? Who will adopt the orphan when there are no orphans? In a life with NO calamities, we will be so accustomed to it that people will forget to perform good actions. Just think, how come it is usually the rich and famous that tend to be seen as arrogant and greedy? Its because many fail to be grateful for what they have.
   
   
   
3. When a calamity strikes, we turn to Allāh and thereby come closer to Him. Allāh loves that connection with us. Allāh Says: "Then why, when Our punishment came to them, did they not humble themselves? But their hearts became hardened, and Satan made attractive to them that which they were doing." [Sūrat’l-An‘ām, 6:43]
   
   
   
4. Test of life: the purpose of life is to pass the test in this world in order to gain rewards in the next life. When you say 'why there is suffering', consider the alternative: A world with no suffering. Since we believe in the Akhirah (afterlife), remember that this dunya (worldly life) is NOT meant to be a 'perfect' world where no suffering exists. That, we can find in Jannah (heaven) Inshallah.
   
   
   
5. Reminder of life after death: there is no true justice in this world. Ultimate justice will be served in the hereafter. As Muslims, remember we believe in life after death, so what happens now will not be the 'end'.
   
   
   
6. To test our faith in Allāh and earn Allāh’s forgiveness through difficulties and trials. After teaching a course to your students, a teacher would want to test them to see who learned right? In the same, way, Allah tests us with suffering to see how we react to them in order to test us.

Hope that answers the question. And Allah knows best.

 

[burn]

To start off, I agree that a lot of so called "religious" people turn out to be some of the scummiest individuals that often use religion as an excuse to justify their horrendous actions. My answer to this post and the previous one is a bit long so I'll be posting it after this one inshallah.

Dude theres really nothing u gotta say.
The rapists the killers do they think about commiting sui are they tired of life? Nope
Are u tired of life as a good person? yes.
also if god was all loving he wouldnt let any messed up subhuman deformed ppl get created, he wouldnt let random middle eastern child get raped to death, he wouldnt let any of us deal with ddpression inceldom non nt whatever users here deal with, this so called god either is fake or is evil af if hes real fuck him idc.

Even more retarted religion bs is when, a criminal savage can commit sins all his life and he will be sent to heaven if he turns to god in his last moments, but a normal nice person will burn in hell for eternity just cuz he didnt say some random words to jesus
Fuck that it takes 1 digit iq to realise this is schizo bs

 

[burn]

Who says my local drug dealer and murderer aren't being tested?

1. Allāh does not create pure evil or harm: whatever exists has elements of good. The overall good that will come out of a tragedy will eclipse the harm that it brought, provided humans have the right attitude. For example, let's look at the COVID 19 crisis as an example. On one hand, you may see how people suffer and die. But on the other hand, it brings families together and many people are remembering religion because of it. As Muslims, we will try to take the good from every circumstance, no matter if it may not appear good superficially. Remember that Muhammad SAW was an optimist, he tried looking for the good in every opportunity.
   
   
   
2. One of the effects of evil is that it brings about the attitude of combating that evil with good. In other words, who will be there to feed the poor when there are no poor people? Who will adopt the orphan when there are no orphans? In a life with NO calamities, we will be so accustomed to it that people will forget to perform good actions. Just think, how come it is usually the rich and famous that tend to be seen as arrogant and greedy? Its because many fail to be grateful for what they have.
   
   
   
3. When a calamity strikes, we turn to Allāh and thereby come closer to Him. Allāh loves that connection with us. Allāh Says: "Then why, when Our punishment came to them, did they not humble themselves? But their hearts became hardened, and Satan made attractive to them that which they were doing." [Sūrat’l-An‘ām, 6:43]
   
   
   
4. Test of life: the purpose of life is to pass the test in this world in order to gain rewards in the next life. When you say 'why there is suffering', consider the alternative: A world with no suffering. Since we believe in the Akhirah (afterlife), remember that this dunya (worldly life) is NOT meant to be a 'perfect' world where no suffering exists. That, we can find in Jannah (heaven) Inshallah.
   
   
   
5. Reminder of life after death: there is no true justice in this world. Ultimate justice will be served in the hereafter. As Muslims, remember we believe in life after death, so what happens now will not be the 'end'.
   
   
   
6. To test our faith in Allāh and earn Allāh’s forgiveness through difficulties and trials. After teaching a course to your students, a teacher would want to test them to see who learned right? In the same, way, Allah tests us with suffering to see how we react to them in order to test us.

Hope that answers the question. And Allah knows best.

Read all of it and its the same copy paste stuff imams say in mosque doesnt interest me

 

[Myst]

Dude theres really nothing u gotta say.
The rapists the killers do they think about commiting sui are they tired of life? Nope
Are u tired of life as a good person? yes.
also if god was all loving he wouldnt let any messed up subhuman deformed ppl get created, he wouldnt let random middle eastern child get raped to death, he wouldnt let any of us deal with ddpression inceldom non nt whatever users here deal with, this so called god either is fake or is evil af if hes real fuck him idc.

Even more retarted religion bs is when, a criminal savage can commit sins all his life and he will be sent to heaven if he turns to god in his last moments, but a normal nice person will burn in hell for eternity just cuz he didnt say some random words to jesus
Fuck that it takes 1 digit iq to realise this is schizo bs

It's not at all like that in islam, even if someone were to sincerely repent before death, the people they wronged (in the case of the criminal savage you gave) must first themselves forgive the person whether in this life or on the day of judgement before allah may forgive them. If they are not forgiven by the people they wrong, they will have their good deeds transferred to the people that were done wrong and if that's still not enough then they will do time in hell, a lot of time.

 

[Myst]

It's not at all like that in islam, even if someone were to sincerely repent before death, the people they wronged (in the case of the criminal savage you gave) must first themselves forgive the person whether in this life or on the day of judgement before allah may forgive them. If they are not forgiven by the people they wrong, they will have their good deeds transferred to the people that were done wrong and if that's still not enough then they will do time in hell, a lot of time.

This is from the top of my head

 

[Myst]

Read all of it and its the same copy paste stuff imams say in mosque doesnt interest me

Tell me which parts you disagree with.

 

[burn]

It's not at all like that in islam, even if someone were to sincerely repent before death, the people they wronged (in the case of the criminal savage you gave) must first themselves forgive the person whether in this life or on the day of judgement before allah may forgive them. If they are not forgiven by the people they wrong, they will have their good deeds transferred to the people that were done wrong and if that's still not enough then they will do time in hell, a lot of time.

Well i do like that and i wish it was true, but i just lost all hope and believe in it, religion is a joke to me now, i just cant take anything serious from it, theres really no signs of it being real to me, at the end of the day u do u, dont wanna debate much bout this, if it helps u cope with life thats fine keep doing it

 

[𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕯𝖊𝖛𝖎𝖑]

Lately I’ve also been craving to go to church for some reason

Because you have all of this societal pressure to go to church. Every corner of the manosphere is telling you to go to church. Other people's thoughts have penetrated your mind.

 

[𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕯𝖊𝖛𝖎𝖑]

A fancy evangelist church with basically a cinema

Churches aren't supposed to have cinemas.

Alot of speaking in tongues

Wtf is wrong with you. Don't your you know that shit is retarded? Those people are completely brainwashed

Pastor didn't cuck and said God save us from lgbt

You are LGBT. Straight dudes don't have sexual relationships with other dudes for 4 years. You are gay and you hate yourself. Stop this bullshit.

 

[Postman]

Churches aren't supposed to have cinemas.

Wtf is wrong with you. Don't your you know that shit is retarded? Those people are completely brainwashed

You are LGBT. Straight dudes don't have sexual relationships with other dudes for 4 years. You are gay and you hate yourself. Stop this bullshit.

Somewhat agree on cinemas and I plan to leave this for an orthodox church

Only reason I went is my roommate was an evangelist who brought me to christ

I don't agree with protestantism though

 

[burn]

Somewhat agree and I plan to leave this for an orthodox church

Only reason I went is my roommate was an evangelist who brought me to christ

I don't agree with protestantism though

Lol orthodox catholic proteswhatever its all the same lies over if u believe any of this, its not gonna make your life better

 

[Smart Asian Kid]

Because you have all of this societal pressure to go to church. Every corner of the manosphere is telling you to go to church. Other people's thoughts have penetrated your mind.

lol you couldn’t be more wrong

 

[𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕯𝖊𝖛𝖎𝖑]

lol you couldn’t be more wrong

How? Are you not in the manosphere right now? all of these people indirectly encouraging you to go to church.

And are you really different from all of the other zoomers? Don't you watch redpill shit online?


You know you have your own culture right? How about you look into Asian practices before submitting to some Jewish egregore.

 

[Smart Asian Kid]

How? Are you not in the manosphere right now? all of these people indirectly encouraging you to go to church.
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And are you really different from all of the other zoomers? Don't you watch redpill shit online?


You know you have your own culture right? How about you look into Asian practices before submitting to some Jewish egregore.

Mfer, I didn’t read all the threads lol

It just seems cozy to sit in a building with people singing, drinking coffee and eating cookies, gahh dayumn.

Also im not Asian lol.

 

[Myst]

Well i do like that and i wish it was true, but i just lost all hope and believe in it, religion is a joke to me now, i just cant take anything serious from it, theres really no signs of it being real to me, at the end of the day u do u, dont wanna debate much bout this, if it helps u cope with life thats fine keep doing it

Do you have any familial trauma related to religion? and what do you think prevents you from believing in a god, let alone religion?

 

[Myst]

How? Are you not in the manosphere right now? all of these people indirectly encouraging you to go to church.
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And are you really different from all of the other zoomers? Don't you watch redpill shit online?


You know you have your own culture right? How about you look into Asian practices before submitting to some Jewish egregore.

How is that different when people like your posts about magick? whether it's ironic or not.