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Serious Would the incel movement die out if there were no incel internet Forums ?

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Yeah, it ended up setting back discourse for actually lonely and isolated individuals' issues—where previously people used to lend an ear to their problems but now they'd just be branded as a 'misogynistic incel' by the normie herd.
Yes it was a huge set back, look at where we are because of it. Are there misogynistic men in these spaces? Yes and it is sincerely so.
 
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we've had a right to be angry because how could you not or get angry when you are treated like garbage by your own kin and those who share your mother tongue?
It depends on the context tbh.

The various internet communities that have sprung up these past two decades all touched on a very real issue, that is, the loneliness and social alienation within modern society. In that vein, yes, individuals do have the right to vent and grieve about the struggles and losses they experienced in their life.

The problem is where we are at now, the vast history that lies behind us and where that discourse spanning many years has taken us to today. Blackpill theory and Incels.is have become the dominant mode and culture through which discussion about the topic is now perceived and interpreted. The Blackpill on its own is rather innocuous, it's common sense really. One can without too much difficulty grasp how genetics and looks have an observable impact on people's lives. In tandem with the culture of incels.is, however, the two make for an ugly pairing.

The incelosphere is a wasteland of tortured souls, many of whom use the Blackpill to justify their own self-inflicted suffering. In addition, by their edgy and provocative nature, the forums also attracted psychopathic, narcissistic and mentally unstable individuals, which connects to what cosmicx16 @cosmicx16 was alluding to in his previous post. Incel culture doesn't really offer any real solutions. It's quite fatalistic, and it is expected that individuals wallow in their misery after being faced with the 'inevitability of the Blackpill'. Serge attempted to address this with the Whitepill a few years back, but as we all know it never gained very much traction.
 
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It depends on the context tbh.

The various internet communities that have sprung up these past two decades all touched on a very real issue, that is, the loneliness and social alienation within modern society. In that vein, yes, individuals do have the right to vent and grieve about the struggles and losses they experienced in their life.

The problem is where we are at now, the vast history that lies behind us and where that discourse spanning many years has taken us to today. Blackpill theory and Incels.is have become the dominant mode and culture through which discussion about the topic is now perceived and interpreted. The Blackpill on its own is rather asinine, it's common sense really. One can without too much difficulty grasp how genetics and looks have an observable impact on people's lives. In tandem with the culture of incels.is, however, the two make for an ugly pairing.

The incelosphere is a wasteland of tortured souls, many of whom use the Blackpill to justify their own self-inflicted suffering. In addition, by their edgy and provocative nature, the forums also attracted psychopathic, narcissistic and mentally unstable individuals, which connects to what cosmicx16 @cosmicx16 was alluding to in his previous post. Incel culture doesn't really offer any real solutions. It's quite fatalistic, and it is expected that individuals wallow in their misery after being faced with the 'inevitability of the Blackpill'. Serge attempted to address this with the Whitepill a few years back, but as we all know it never gained very much traction.
I take my words back a little. I disagree with Tabula here.
 
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It depends on the context tbh.

The various internet communities that have sprung up these past two decades all touched on a very real issue, that is, the loneliness and social alienation within modern society. In that vein, yes, individuals do have the right to vent and grieve about the struggles and losses they experienced in their life.

The problem is where we are at now, the vast history that lies behind us and where that discourse spanning many years has taken us to today. Blackpill theory and Incels.is have become the dominant mode and culture through which discussion about the topic is now perceived and interpreted. The Blackpill on its own is rather innocuous, it's common sense really. One can without too much difficulty grasp how genetics and looks have an observable impact on people's lives. In tandem with the culture of incels.is, however, the two make for an ugly pairing.

The incelosphere is a wasteland of tortured souls, many of whom use the Blackpill to justify their own self-inflicted suffering. In addition, by their edgy and provocative nature, the forums also attracted psychopathic, narcissistic and mentally unstable individuals, which connects to what cosmicx16 @cosmicx16 was alluding to in his previous post. Incel culture doesn't really offer any real solutions. It's quite fatalistic, and it is expected that individuals wallow in their misery after being faced with the 'inevitability of the Blackpill'. Serge attempted to address this with the Whitepill a few years back, but as we all know it never gained very much traction.
Well looksmaxxing was supposed to be the solution to being incel. Although it's a common opinion in incel spaces that looksmaxxing is just pointless
 
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Well looksmaxxing was supposed to be the solution to being incel. Although it's a common opinion in incel spaces that looksmaxxing is just pointless
The Whitepill was more realistic, basically accepting your situation, making adjustments in your life for your own self-benefit and personal happiness etc.
 
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It depends on the context tbh.

The various internet communities that have sprung up these past two decades all touched on a very real issue, that is, the loneliness and social alienation within modern society. In that vein, yes, individuals do have the right to vent and grieve about the struggles and losses they experienced in their life.

The problem is where we are at now, the vast history that lies behind us and where that discourse spanning many years has taken us to today. Blackpill theory and Incels.is have become the dominant mode and culture through which discussion about the topic is now perceived and interpreted. The Blackpill on its own is rather innocuous, it's common sense really. One can without too much difficulty grasp how genetics and looks have an observable impact on people's lives. In tandem with the culture of incels.is, however, the two make for an ugly pairing.

The incelosphere is a wasteland of tortured souls, many of whom use the Blackpill to justify their own self-inflicted suffering. In addition, by their edgy and provocative nature, the forums also attracted psychopathic, narcissistic and mentally unstable individuals, which connects to what cosmicx16 @cosmicx16 was alluding to in his previous post. Incel culture doesn't really offer any real solutions. It's quite fatalistic, and it is expected that individuals wallow in their misery after being faced with the 'inevitability of the Blackpill'. Serge attempted to address this with the Whitepill a few years back, but as we all know it never gained very much traction.
"Blackpill theory and Incels.is have become the dominant mode and culture through which discussion about the topic is now perceived and interpreted. The Blackpill on its own is rather innocuous, it's common sense really."

"One can without too much difficulty grasp how genetics and looks have an observable impact on people's lives. In tandem with the culture of incels.is, however, the two make for an ugly pairing."

"The incelosphere is a wasteland of tortured souls, many of whom use the Blackpill to justify their own self-inflicted suffering. In addition, by their edgy and provocative nature, the forums also attracted psychopathic, narcissistic and mentally unstable individuals,"

"Incel culture doesn't really offer any real solutions. It's quite fatalistic, and it is expected that individuals wallow in their misery after being faced with the 'inevitability of the Blackpill'. Serge attempted to address this with the Whitepill a few years back, but as we all know it never gained very much traction."

There are a few subtleties and most of all a situation that must be confronted. Incel.is is the central power of culture, and the black pill in part is spoken of by a few who's experiences are in relation to it such a DBDR, Rehab, Javal, Mavka, etc, etc. I will add and say that the blackpill at the heart is personal experience itself and the underlying reality that expresses it as in you have to be a living/physical example in order to see that reality. One can grasp at genetics and with observation comprehend what is occurring, I wouldn't disagree. As to the wasteland, it became like that in my view because they never filtered out those people, unfortunately it becomes a perfect justifier unto itself because you cannot be held accountable for what is out of your control. And to the last bit, you know the old saying "Rope or you cope" and the end goal of the blackpill is death, because if your a genetic dead end with no ability or capability for progress, what then is your life? The answer is beyond a word such as the use of pill. I think there is a real world answer with grass roots change, but that will be very hard to do in the current climate, but it can be done.
 
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If your suffering people will still try to find an answer, though as DBDR put it you don't hear much from guys like him; adding more to it you don't hear much from men who suffer because in the past they suffered in silence, the men who suffer today have the opportunity to share their experience to the extent that they have the means. If it was me for example and I never had access to the net the way I have today I likely would have never known about the blackpill nor would I likely ever would have came up with the concepts you read today.

The idea of a sexless man has existed before we had put it into words, it was the experience itself that we never got to truly comprehend nor hear, nor read about. Now the meaning or words indeldom would die, but not the idea itself.
Agreed the experience of sexless and lonely men won't die out but the incel word and movement will.
 
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It depends on the context tbh.

The various internet communities that have sprung up these past two decades all touched on a very real issue, that is, the loneliness and social alienation within modern society. In that vein, yes, individuals do have the right to vent and grieve about the struggles and losses they experienced in their life.

The problem is where we are at now, the vast history that lies behind us and where that discourse spanning many years has taken us to today. Blackpill theory and Incels.is have become the dominant mode and culture through which discussion about the topic is now perceived and interpreted. The Blackpill on its own is rather innocuous, it's common sense really. One can without too much difficulty grasp how genetics and looks have an observable impact on people's lives. In tandem with the culture of incels.is, however, the two make for an ugly pairing.

The incelosphere is a wasteland of tortured souls, many of whom use the Blackpill to justify their own self-inflicted suffering. In addition, by their edgy and provocative nature, the forums also attracted psychopathic, narcissistic and mentally unstable individuals, which connects to what cosmicx16 @cosmicx16 was alluding to in his previous post. Incel culture doesn't really offer any real solutions. It's quite fatalistic, and it is expected that individuals wallow in their misery after being faced with the 'inevitability of the Blackpill'. Serge attempted to address this with the Whitepill a few years back, but as we all know it never gained very much traction.
The real reason this has exploded in the past two decades is because of electronics such as smartphones making young adults and teenagers lonelier than ever but most will ignore this because we are worshipers of electronics.
 
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The real reason this has exploded in the past two decades is because of electronics such as smartphones making young adults and teenagers lonelier than ever but most will ignore this because we are worshipers of electronics.
It's just one part of a broader socio-economic trend that has occurred over the past few decades as we've entered the post-industrial era. Birth rates have declined globally, people are marrying less and at older ages.
 
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Birth rates are not declining there are lots of humans Infact too many.
what planet do you live on
birth rates are declining everywhere , only africa MENA and south asia have steady above replacement birth rates

and when you say theres a lot of humans , sure but theyre all old and getting older esp in developed countries
so theres not as much vitality and youthful energy
 
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