How the fuck do a bunch of socially outcasted NEETs and incels understand the world better than the majority of educated, "well adjusted" people?

[Memento Mori]

If it's among people who know its a joke go right ahead. my friends and i joke about raping each other. I get that its extreme humor and obviously it's so far out of the realm of possibility it's silly to even address how unserious it is.

But a stranger? who knows you're talking about them? Who's told you to stop? who's not in the group? a group that doesn't understand that that is completely horribly wrong does not have great understanding of the world.

4chan has proven that's more than enough to find someone lol

Yeah I understand the sentiment, and it was distressing for the victim. However, people could see that the guy didn't really have malevolent intentions bar the extreme humor you were talking about.

 

[Deleted member 52]

If it's among people who know its a joke go right ahead. my friends and i joke about raping each other. I get that its extreme humor and obviously it's so far out of the realm of possibility it's silly to even address how unserious it is.

But a stranger? who knows you're talking about them? Who's told you to stop? who's not in the group? a group that doesn't understand that that is completely horribly wrong does not have great understanding of the world.

I’m not denying that manlet machine was a complete retard for posting shit when she knew his irl name, address, and uni but she made threats of having people go to his house and beat him up far before he ever said anything about rape and murder

On her side, she is genuinely even more retarded for giving some touch starved incel attention. What did she think would happen?

 

[somethingtobelievein]

Yeah I understand the sentiment, and it was distressing for the victim. However, people could see that the guy didn't really have malevolent intentions bar the extreme humor you were talking about.

I guess this is the point: which "people" could see that? I think most people: left, right, whatever, in whatever country, would not agree that it was harmless humor that there were no intentions. If I'm right, then that is evidence that the communities don't understand the world, because they can't anticipate how people outside the sphere would see things.

 

[Memento Mori]

I guess this is the point: which "people" could see that? I think most people: left, right, whatever, in whatever country, would not agree that it was harmless humor that there were no intentions. If I'm right, then that is evidence that the communities don't understand the world, because they can't anticipate how people outside the sphere would see things.

Nah, it doesn't take too much intelligence to know what the average person would think about it.

 

[Indrid]

she made threats of having people go to his house and beat him up far before he ever said anything about rape and murder

assuming this is true; maybe she did have it coming.

 

[somethingtobelievein]

I’m not denying that manlet machine was a complete retard for posting shit when she knew his irl name, address, and uni but she made threats of having people go to his house and beat him up far before he ever said anything about rape and murder

On her side, she is genuinely even more retarded for giving some touch starved incel attention. What did she think would happen?

I mean I don't know the timeline or the frequency of what jabs she threw. If there's a case against her as well I'm cool with that. I do know the volume of his threatening language was excessive and frequent.

 

[somethingtobelievein]

I mean I don't know the timeline or the frequency of what jabs she threw. If there's a case against her as well I'm cool with that. I do know the volume of his threatening language was excessive and frequent.

as far as "what did she think would happen?"

It seems the answer is that his behavior should be expected specifically because he is "some touch starved incel". If that's the case, it's more evidence that said community doesn't have understanding of the world. Because normal people would not act that way in the face of attention.

 

[Deleted member 52]

assuming this is true; maybe she did have it coming.

I mean, I feel bad for the guy, I do think he was just joking around, but idk what he expected when posting that shit while she knew his full name. Not only that, but she literally has his phone number/texted him so there’s no plausible deniability angle. If I ever got exposed I could just say that’s not me and there would be no proof it really was.

But he kept posting when someone who hated his existence knew his name. He should have known this would come.

 

[somethingtobelievein]

I mean, I feel bad for the guy, I do think he was just joking around, but idk what he expected when posting that shit while she knew his full name. Not only that, but she literally has his phone number/texted him so there’s no plausible deniability angle. If I ever got exposed I could just say that’s not me and there would be no proof it really was.

But he kept posting when someone who hated his existence knew his name. He should have known this would come.

For all the reasons you said, I don't see why I should feel bad for him.

 

[Deleted member 52]

as far as "what did she think would happen?"

It seems the answer is that his behavior should be expected specifically because he is "some touch starved incel". If that's the case, it's more evidence that said community doesn't have understanding of the world. Because normal people would not act that way in the face of attention.

Well, let’s see how it went
-he posted her on the forum calling her perfect
-someone sent him to her as a way to troll him
-she has a breakdown even though he just complemented her, eventually doxxed him, foind his address and told him she’d have people go to beat him up

If that’s not the definition of egging him on, I don’t know what is. She’s definitely as stupid if not more than he is.

 

[Indrid]

Well, let’s see how it went
-he posted her on the forum calling her perfect
-someone sent him to her as a way to troll him
-she has a breakdown even though he just complemented her, eventually doxxed him, foind his address and told him she’d have people go to beat him up

If that’s not the definition of egging him on, I don’t know what is. She’s definitely as stupid if not more than he is.

She deserves far worse than rape threats if that's actually what happened.

 

[CPT馬冠宇]

yeah. I still don't understand the connection. "she didn't deserve it" is true. It doesn't add anything to the discussion other than trying to soften your stance without you actually changing your stance. what is the good 10%?

Yes, a soft stance is fair. Im not a zero tolerance fag. the good 10% is if he wrote 3 songs and made 10% of posts 10% activities. Instead he was 24/7 for a year or two. If he dealt with it like someone who could cope but what happened was unhealthy for him and might actually scare her a little

 

[somethingtobelievein]

Well, let’s see how it went
-he posted her on the forum calling her perfect
-someone sent him to her as a way to troll him
-she has a breakdown even though he just complemented her, eventually doxxed him, foind his address and told him she’d have people go to beat him up

If that’s not the definition of egging him on, I don’t know what is. She’s definitely as stupid if not more than he is.

Well details keep coming up here and I'll repeat that I don't know the backstory.

But I'm still responding to "she is genuinely even more retarded for giving some touch starved incel attention. What did she think would happen?"

Because even if all that is true, a normal person would not write and post a dozen rape songs and post dozens of times about raping her in retaliation. So I still ask, should she have expected it specifically because he's in these communities, which - to loop the discussion back to the original topic of the thread - is evidence that those communities don't have understanding of the world because one should assume they won't understand how stupid that behavior is.

 

[Deleted member 52]

She deserves far worse than rape threats if that's actually what happened.

She’s lucky he was just joking around and is a high inhib cuck in reality tbh. If someone else in his position was less of a pussy and already had their life ruined/finished, they would do a lot more to her. I’m not advocating for anything here but it’s obvious to see the route most people would go. I’ve looked at cases like this (one in his location actually), and while you can go to jail it’s not for too long. He could easily come out still angry

 

[somethingtobelievein]

She deserves far worse than rape threats if that's actually what happened.

like is this a joke? I would hope so.

 

[Deleted member 52]

Well details keep coming up here and I'll repeat that I don't know the backstory.

But I'm still responding to "she is genuinely even more retarded for giving some touch starved incel attention. What did she think would happen?"

Because even if all that is true, a normal person would not write and post a dozen rape songs and post dozens of times about raping her in retaliation. So I still ask, should she have expected it specifically because he's in these communities, which - to loop the discussion back to the original topic of the thread - is evidence that those communities don't have understanding of the world because one should assume they won't understand how stupid that behavior is.

He never mentioned rape in any of the song, he came back far later

Anyway you’re right. I wasn’t talking about guys like him but more rational guys like @Tabula Rasa and @PointOfNoReturn when I said they’re more aware than the average normie. Its pointless to hate women for hypergamy, for ex.

 

[Indrid]

like is this a joke? I would hope so.

Women like her get negative sympathy.

 

[somethingtobelievein]

He never mentioned rape in any of the song, he came back far later

Anyway you’re right. I wasn’t talking about guys like him but more rational guys like @Tabula Rasa and @PointOfNoReturn when I said they’re more aware than the average normie. Its pointless to hate women for hypergamy, for ex.

In what ways?

And taking your pick of a couple people from a large community to compare to another group's average is silly, no?

 

[Indrid]

Its pointless to hate women for hypergamy, for ex.

Watching them from afar like it's a zoo is fun, I'll continue my women rants whenever one enters my head.

 

[Memento Mori]

In what ways?

And taking your pick of a couple people from a large community to compare to another group's average is silly, no?

Like I said before, the blackpill communities aren't a monolith. The actions of one individual isn't representative of every participant in these communities. I'd hardly suspect that the majority of people are into writing intrusive songs about their oneitis and embarassing themselves on the internet.

 

[Deleted member 52]

In what ways?

Similar mindset to monks of the past. It’d be an essay if I went on about my philosophy here but overall similarity to Buddhist/taoist views and so on. They were always called enlightened after all.

Genetic determinism is another thing here.

And taking your pick of a couple people from a large community to compare to another group's average is silly, no?

Well, that’s what this forum is centered around. I can’t stand the average org or is user because they are braindead and repeat the same thing ober and over for decades, but this forum is literally for people with a different mindset.

 

[somethingtobelievein]

Like I said before, the blackpill communities aren't a monolith. The actions of one individual isn't representative of every participant in these communities. I'd hardly suspect that the majority of people are into writing intrusive songs about their oneitis and embarassing themselves on the internet.

okay. So, back to the original topic:

"a bunch of socially outcasted NEETs and incels understand the world better than the majority of educated, 'well adjusted' people?"

Seems like everyone agreed, but until I said I didn't agree there was really no substance.

I gave an example of the opposite and a large portion of those communities looked like fools in that incident. But yes, the communities aren't a monolith. Just like "educated, 'well adjusted' people" aren't a monolith.

Similar mindset to monks of the past. It’d be an essay if I went on about my philosophy here but overall similarity to Buddhist/taoist views and so on. They were always called enlightened after all.

Genetic determinism is another thing here.

Well, that’s what this forum is centered around. I can’t stand the average org or is user because they are braindead and repeat the same thing ober and over for decades, but this forum is literally for people with a different mindset.

A lot of educated well adjusted people are buddhist and taoist.

"Genetic determinism is another thing here." The point being genetic determinism is what: 100% controllling, largely valid but not universal, valid to a good extent? What is the difference in the stance between neets and incels and the educated well adjusted people? I don't think many people think genetics don't matter at all.

So you're talking about this forum specifically?

Guess I don't see the substance you do.

Although I'm going to drop dead any day now because one of the most prominent posters controls demons and is sending them to kill me and people here unironically believe what he says.

 

[Deleted member 52]

okay. So, back to the original topic:

"a bunch of socially outcasted NEETs and incels understand the world better than the majority of educated, 'well adjusted' people?"

Seems like everyone agreed, but until I said I didn't agree there was really no substance.

I gave an example of the opposite and a large portion of those communities looked like fools in that incident. But yes, the communities aren't a monolith. Just like "educated, 'well adjusted' people" aren't a monolith.



A lot of educated well adjusted people are buddhist and taoist.

"Genetic determinism is another thing here." The point being genetic determinism is what: 100% controllling, largely valid but not universal, valid to a good extent? What is the difference in the stance between neets and incels and the educated well adjusted people? I don't think many people think genetics don't matter at all.

So you're talking about this forum specifically?

Guess I don't see the substance you do.

Although I'm going to drop dead any day now because one of the most prominent posters controls demons and is sending them to kill me and people here unironically believe what he says.

I doubt the average educated/normal person would accept things like the racepill. It would be a net good for the world to kill every nigger alive, but what normie do you think would accept that?

 

[somethingtobelievein]

I doubt the average educated/normal person would accept things like the racepill. It would be a net good for the world to kill every nigger alive, but what normie do you think would accept that?

I know a lot of normie racists haha.

But would killing them be good? I do get your point: the violence, leeching, lack of production, awful culture. I see how in theory removing the worst people would improve things.

But that's like liberal economics that assume the action wouldn't change behavior. Watching those people get killed and knowing we live in a world where we will all agree to kill based on a characteristic if others in that group mess up, would it actually be a net benefit?

I don't think someone is foolish for questioning it.

 

[somethingtobelievein]

I know a lot of normie racists haha.

But would killing them be good? I do get your point: the violence, leeching, lack of production, awful culture. I see how in theory removing the worst people would improve things.

But that's like liberal economics that assume the action wouldn't change behavior. Watching those people get killed and knowing we live in a world where we will all agree to kill based on a characteristic if others in that group mess up, would it actually be a net benefit?

I don't think someone is foolish for questioning it.

but yeah people who say "no there's no genetic difference races are the same!" Are silly and ignoring reality.