Love is dead; How do you live with that?

[Rat]

I have personally been blue pilled my whole life.

I know that it is probably a naive and plain wrong worldview, but I still kept knowingly choosing it regardless this whole time.

The depiction of love told in media is just the exact kind of stuff i want in life: I wanna love my GF regardless of their illnesses, looks, wealth, bad days and past. I wanna snuggle her, cook her delicious food, clean the house for her and massage her when we come back from work. I wanna surprise her with small gifts every single week with badly written songs & drawings and shit. I wanna grow old with her, make her time spent with me really worthwhile... For me, love is the highest priority and highest pleasure in life. Being into and with a special someone just means the actual world to me. It's the only thing I know that makes me truly happy in life.

I know it's dumb but that's just the kind of Simp i am.

Sadly though there just don't seem too be alot of women who love their partner in this kind of way.
BFs in most women's eyes are just additive. We aren't needed. we are replaceable to them... It's plain heartbreaking ...

But i just refuse to fight for anything else except this exact kind of love!
Maybe someday there will be a girl into me who is able to look past my struggles, see how much I have to give regardless and wanting all of that.

I wanna work hard to prepare myself for that day, shape myself into the best, most adorable, loving husband that I can be.
It's my only wish in life. A wish that is highly unlikely to be fulfilled.

How about you?

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

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I have personally been blue pilled my whole life.

I know that it is probably a naive and plain wrong worldview, but I still kept knowingly choosing it regardless this whole time.

The depiction of love told in media is just the exact kind of stuff i want in life: I wanna love my GF regardless of their illnesses, looks, wealth, bad days and past. I wanna snuggle her, cook her delicious food, clean the house for her and massage her when we come back from work. I wanna surprise her with small gifts every single week with badly written songs & drawings and shit. I wanna grow old with her, make her time spent with me really worthwhile... For me, love is the highest priority and highest pleasure in life. Being into and with a special someone just means the actual world to me. It's the only thing I know that makes me truly happy in life.

I know it's dumb but that's just the kind of Simp i am.

Sadly though there just don't seem too be alot of women who love their partner in this kind of way.
BFs in most women's eyes are just additive. We aren't needed. we are replaceable to them... It's plain heartbreaking ...

But i just refuse to fight for anything else except this exact kind of love!
Maybe someday there will be a girl into me who is able to look past my struggles, see how much I have to give regardless and wanting all of that.

I wanna work hard to prepare myself for that day, shape myself into the best, most adorable, loving husband that I can be.
It's my only wish in life. A wish that is highly unlikely to be fulfilled.

How about you?

You’re not an idiot for wanting the cooking, the massages, the shitty songs, and growing old together. The problem is you still think the version Disney and the movies sold you is what actually happens when two people are stuck with each other for years.

Romance isn’t the highlight reel. Those cut out the boredom, the resentment, the sex drying up, and the quiet disappointment. You can do every sweet thing and still end up with someone who treats it like the bare minimum or keeps one foot out the door. Effort doesn’t force them to match you.

Plenty of people want that devotion. Most won’t give it back once it costs them something. And calling love the only thing that makes you happy just means you’re putting your whole life on someone else who has their own limits. Build a life that doesn’t collapse if they’re late, distant, or gone.

Keep wanting to be the guy who does the sweet shit. Just stop writing the script for a perfect girlfriend who doesn’t exist, and walk when the real person in front of you can’t meet you once the honeymoon ends.

 

[Rat]

That's sweet, holy shit.
Those snack packages everywhere XD

Thx for the kind words!

Romance isn’t the highlight reel

True, that's why Disney romance sucks hard D (but almost all romance media is like that sadly, wish that where diffrent)

And calling love the only thing that makes you happy just means you’re putting your whole life on someone else who has their own limits. Build a life that doesn’t collapse if they’re late, distant, or gone.

I get what you are putting down and I 100% agree. I would absolutely HATE it if I ever were a burden in a relationship...
I'm working hard basically my whole life to fix the issues I have by myself. Though I must say, it's hard.

Sometimes you can't fix something on your own but society demands it anyway...

It's just heartbreaking to finally fall in love with someone who loves you back and having to face the harsh reality that she isn't able to risk it for you... I dont blame her, i understand it. Still heartbreaking though... Just because I can't figure out how to solve my problems even though I'm fighting my ass off...

Id say the biggest lie told in media is that of life's fairness. The portrayal of: "everything solves itself out in the end if you keep on trying"
I have seen that it truly does not sometimes. And I'm afraid that this shit might happen to me as well.

But there is literally nothing better I can do besides hope and keep on trying to find it out the hard way.

Till I end up dead or accustomed to living alone, I'm fighting on my own

 

[Nosecel_]

Manifesting myself to become Chad. Kek.

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

That's sweet, holy shit.
Those snack packages everywhere XD

Thx for the kind words!

True, that's why Disney romance sucks hard D (but almost all romance media is like that sadly, wish that where diffrent)

I get what you are putting down and I 100% agree. I would absolutely HATE it if I ever were a burden in a relationship...
I'm working hard basically my whole life to fix the issues I have by myself. Though I must say, it's hard.

Sometimes you can't fix something on your own but society demands it anyway...

It's just heartbreaking to finally fall in love with someone who loves you back and having to face the harsh reality that she isn't able to risk it for you... I dont blame her, i understand it. Still heartbreaking though... Just because I can't figure out how to solve my problems even though I'm fighting my ass off...

Id say the biggest lie told in media is that of life's fairness. The portrayal of: "everything solves itself out in the end if you keep on trying"
I have seen that it truly does not sometimes. And I'm afraid that this shit might happen to me as well.

But there is literally nothing better I can do besides hope and keep on trying to find it out the hard way.

Till I end up dead or accustomed to living alone, I'm fighting on my own

You’re being way too fucking hard on yourself about the burden thing.

You just wrote a whole post about how much you’d enjoy taking care of a woman through sickness, bad days, whatever. So why is it suddenly a terrible imposition if someone wants to do any of that for you? That’s a shitty double standard.

Love isn’t a spreadsheet. Sometimes almost nothing from you means the world to her. Sometimes it’s the other way around. You don’t need to clear every personal issue before you’re allowed to be someone’s problem once in a while. If someone’s actually taking advantage of you, say something. Treating every inconvenience like a debt is just a miserable way to live.

Life’s unfair. You’re right about that. After my last ex I was convinced I was done, then I met someone who was damn near perfect for me. Wrong time, didn’t work. I still think about it sometimes. I’m not going to spend the rest of my life beating myself up over it, and I’m not deciding in advance that some future woman can’t handle whatever I’ve got going on. Let her make that call.

You’re allowed to be a pain in the ass once in a while. That’s most of long term relationships.

 

[Osnep]

i never understood love, i never watched any romantic shows because i simply didn enjoy them.

i have sexual neurosis from childhood trauma.
the thought of fucking a girl will literally never give me an erection, i've tried countless times --both imagining it and watching it.

because of the neurosis, i've never been able to organism even once in my entire life (im very early 20s). Yeah, I've basically been no-fapping since birth.
i still get erections sometimes when I imagine cuddiling with a girl, but I can never orgasm from it.

my ultimate goal in life is to orgasm. I'm going to go to therapy for it and whatever it takes... hopefully one day - it will be a glorious day. The kind of life i live right now is hell, im hyperwarare of everything, i could talk at leghth on this, but theres really no point.

one time i did have a wet dream (it was only precum) from a goth mommy crushing my skull with her thighs tho.

"Satisfied genital object love is thus the most powerful opponent of the destructive drive, of pre-genital masochism, of yearning for the womb, and of the punitive superego. This superiority of sexuality over the destructive drive is the objective justification of our therapeutic efforts."

— Wilhelm Reich


Of course, if a wife comes along that would be nice.

 

[Osnep]

How about you?

Do you ever think that the reason you are coding this game of yours is because you've got some kind of sexual drive attached to it by extension?

from the little I've read up on Freud and the libido, my understanding is that almost everything we do is arbitrarily linked to our sex drive.

I'm asking because, I also was working on a big project (mine was an overthetop neocities webpage), but I realized that by working on this webpage, I'm just building up my expectation that a woman would want to date me because of how awesome she thought my webpage was. I was ashamed at first, but then I realized that nothing good ever comes from self induced shame. So now Im just rolling with it. Eventually when I learn to orgasim, I want to rewire my realities metaprogrammer, but fapping under very specific conditions.

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

Do you ever think that the reason you are coding this game of yours is because you've got some kind of sexual drive attached to it by extension?

from the little I've read up on Freud and the libido, my understanding is that almost everything we do is arbitrarily linked to our sex drive.

I'm asking because, I also was working on a big project (mine was an overthetop neocities webpage), but I realized that by working on this webpage, I'm just building up my expectation that a woman would want to date me because of how awesome she thought my webpage was. I was ashamed at first, but then I realized that nothing good ever comes from self induced shame. So now Im just rolling with it. Eventually when I learn to orgasim, I want to rewire my realities metaprogrammer, but fapping under very specific conditions.

Freud was an egotistical cocaine enthusiast obsessed with cock, and I think it's a bit odd to psychoanalyze someone else's creative ambitions through your own admittedly fucked up relationship with sexuality.

Maybe the dude just likes making games, man.

 

[Osnep]

Freud was an egotistical cocaine enthusiast obsessed with cock

maybe. That doesn't detract from how a lot of what he said resonated with me though. Im not taking what he says as gospel of course, everybody has their own reality.

and I think it's a bit odd to psychoanalyze someone else's creative ambitions through your own admittedly fucked up relationship with sexuality.

It is odd. It is usually only the odd things that are worth discussing.

I was just wondering if OP experienced something simialr to me. If he didn't, then he didn't

Maybe the dude just likes making games, man.

If this is true, I envy him greatly.

 

[Arnold Schwarzwald]

maybe. That doesn't detract from how a lot of what he said resonated with me though. Im not taking what he says as gospel of course, everybody has their own reality.


It is odd. It is usually only the odd things that are worth discussing.

I was just wondering if OP experienced something simialr to me. If he didn't, then he didn't


If this is true, I envy him greatly.

Fair enough, I can respect that. I think I understand where you're coming from a little better now. Hope you find what you're looking for, man.

 

[Shinrinken]

It's less that it's dead, but more of you can't trust your girl to stay loyal. Also doesn't help that the courts basically give women a gun to hold to your head that they can just shoot for any reason and take half or more of your stuff cause she feels like it without any side effects. It was women listening to sad ugly bitches no one wanted to bang, the courts ruining the concept of marriage, and the idea of marriage treated like dating and something you can just cut off when you got bored and get paid for doing so.

 

[Rat]

i still get erections sometimes when I imagine cuddiling with a girl, but I can never orgasm from it.

I might not have sexual neurosis, but I feel somewhat similar to this. Of course, sadly I can jack off and shit, but when it comes to romance, the only physical connection I truly seek is cuddling. Like Sex? If I can avoid it, I will! Not interested... Cuddling though, now that's the stuff! Highest pleasure there is in the world, trust me

Do you ever think that the reason you are coding this game of yours is because you've got some kind of sexual drive attached to it by extension?

No not the game i'm working on, that comes from a place of pure frustration and struggle. Not the kind of stuff i would proudly show my hypothetical GF

But I 100% get your angle for most other things I do... This kind of stuff you described happens to me an awful lot.
For example: I recently started to learn how to dance. Not to impress anyone, just so I can go to the club and shake my bad feelings off. No Boos, no drugs, no company, just music & dancing so I can decrease my high cortisol levels.

But despite that, after a few days of trying to groove at home, my mind immediately starts to create a fantasy where I meet a girl in the club and dance with her and shit like that. Stuff like that happens to me an awful lot tbh...

I would not say however that this is my sexual drive talking and would more say its libido in general. I think there is a big difference between the desire of sex and the desire for love. There are people out there, for example, who don't want sex but still search for a longterm partner and on the flip side, people who fuck around left and right but actively avoid longterm relationships, i.e., hook-up culture.

That being said: i actually don't think this is something bad. Sure it's irritating at first glance, to think all you do is just to get someone interested in you, but honestly who the fuck cares? I think no matter the reason doing these things is still worth while. And hey, if it motivates you, then why not? You just have to keep your hopes in check.

 

[newsincerity]

Goldpill
Love is real just illegal