Idon't care if it's communicating with the intellectual elite of planet Ogo, if you're looking at cursed symbols like sigils reversed pentagrams and read cursed names of beings and channeled formulas the energy will affect you.
I don't think there are practicing occultists who are atheist. If you can separate it why do you need book just use your intention and your own symbols. Timing implies there is times of power which is true on a personal level you have more energy sometimes and feel better. The full moons and sun eclipses will be negative in itself. There is many people who instinctively know not to stare at the moon at night. Astrology is pretty safe to study though.
Yes the text especially the names symbols and formulas
I appreciate you taking the time to actually engage with the questions this is the kind of exchange I was after.
Let me clarify where I’m coming from, because I think we’re circling the same territory from different angles.
On symbols:
I don’t think they have inherent power, but I do think they can act as
funnels. A sigil, a cross, a pentagram—they don’t contain energy, but they
direct it, like a lens focuses light. If a symbol has been used heavily, it might carry some residual charge (like a groove worn in), but that’s still just a tool, not a battery. That’s why I can read
Sitra Achra without feeling “cursed”—I’m studying the architecture of the funnel, not drinking from it.
On atheist occultists:
I’m not an atheist, but I’m also not a believer in the traditional sense. I hold it in superposition: maybe it’s all psychological, maybe it’s touching something real but outside our frame, maybe both. That’s why I’m less interested in
whether it works than in
what people do with the texts. The books are maps; I want to see how different people read them.
On timing / moon:
The physics of tides and eclipses is wild i’m with you there. The “instinct not to stare” feels more like folklore to me, but folklore often points to patterns people noticed before they had words for them. I’ll keep it in mind.
On text vs. posture:
We probably won’t agree on whether the symbols themselves carry weight independent of the reader. That’s fine—it’s a fundamental split. But I respect that you’re coming at it from a place of genuine concern rather than just gatekeeping.
Thanks for the conversation. If you ever want to dig into
why different people read the same text so differently hit me up.
P.S. In the end I put out some feelers to gauge engagement and people’s perspectives. It’s been limited but
elucidating.
That's a famed American occultist he took inspiration from.
