Masculinity is like race meme

[porco-dddio]

I premise that I was told this platform recruited incels, but your admin now regrets it. So I will try to keep my incelism ideology at minimum levels.

If you travel in the world you see the most masculine people are also the ugliest.

If some man is very attractive he is less likely to pursue the fad of masculinity. When attractive men pursue masculinity, what I noticed is they do it elegantly like sean connery. Or theres athlete chads who simply focus on fucking girls at the party. Chads who fuck people around can hardly be considered a problem, they are inseminator bulls who simply do their life without bothering anyone. In my exp, observing chads, I noticed a chad often is capable of understanding contexts and they can be given an area or a location where they fuck girls. So in america they have fraternity houses, or they have places where they store all the chads.

Chads are intelligent enough to understand concepts of civility and respect for public spaces. I dont go around pretending chads are perfect or anything and im sure some of them did misconduct, like for example Andrew Huberman nicknamed "king of he grift" is a tall chad who scammed, conned and frauded and sexually exploited people around him. But I think I know why he did it. Its gona be a topic for another time.

The masculinity fad is mostly performed by ugly people. Hence we came to call it "postmodern masculinity" or "MAGA-masculinity" or theres judith butler who calls it "performative".

What this is, basically a fad for people who did not grew up from HS, its nothing but a fad often performed by those who have the least amount of attributes to suit it. Like the race meme "people most obsessed about it are the worst representatives of their own race".

In the case of masculinity, I would normally not bother. And its not for a sense of purity that I say this, I myself am not a masculine purist. The reason I move this criticism is because I like masculinity and I do feel offended by MAGA-masculinity. I believe they are harming men by imposing themselves above reality. The social effects of their highschool fad disturbs me. Also, there are emotional reasons why I dont like this posturing. I think it begs us to challenge it, like in HS we always challenged the bully, right now we have to do it in adult life. Because some people did not learn the lesson or they believe they can be HS jocks in adult years.

Issue I see is that none of them is good looking, and they are also weak and feeble minded. So their fad is dangerous. If you convince a submasculine person to perform this caricature of a fad, he will be dangerous to himself and others. In my life I never seen anyone performing highschool fad being a socially adjusted member of society, they always impose their trauma on others. So having MAGA-masculinity all around us can probbly multiply mental problems and transmit trauma everywhere.

 

[Suigin Trismegistus]

Imagine yourself falling through a portal in time and traveling several hundred years into the past, and then explaining what you just wrote to these people as they stare you down.

 

[Depresso]

If you travel in the world you see the most masculine people are also the ugliest.

Perspective. If you're a straight man, men aren't pretty.

 

[porco-dddio]

Imagine yourself falling through a portal in time and traveling several hundred years into the past, and then explaining what you just wrote to these people as they stare you down.

I done mental experiment, go back in time and talk to enkidu and ask "are you gay" while he looks at me and does not know the meaning of the word gay.

I think lots of senses, affections, emotions, social types and so on are manufactured. I also think some are completely fake.

Anyway, yeah I think they would be able to understand me, I can adapt to their jargon. I think since they also didnt knw social media, my speech would reach their ears and they would remember it. My linguistic abilities far surpass the avg of literacy in their age, and my ability would make me a propagandist in their time.

Honestly given the advantage, I wouldnt waste time talkin bout masculinity, but instead study them, pace and lead them.

 

[porco-dddio]

Perspective. If you're a straight man, men aren't pretty.

Nah I can clearly see whos ugly and who isnt, and whos pretty. I mean its pretty obvious. You can get technical and discuss your tastes but I think I can easy see whos ugly and whos pretty much OK or normal looking.

The majority of situations, ugly people gather in their small collective like a pub or a bar, where they perform a fad, and they live an existence inside the mental model of judith butler, she described them (accurately) as social performers.

I would normally disagree with judith, but I cannot deny the evidence, so I can say on this particular subject she got a point and I am forced to admit it.

I was adding to the conversation, adding my point of view. Those who perform the most have the least amount of traits that justifies the performance.

 

[Suigin Trismegistus]

Issue I see is that none of them is good looking, and they are also weak and feeble minded. So their fad is dangerous. If you convince a submasculine person to perform this caricature of a fad, he will be dangerous to himself and others. In my life I never seen anyone performing highschool fad being a socially adjusted member of society, they always impose their trauma on others. So having MAGA-masculinity all around us can probbly multiply mental problems and transmit trauma everywhere.

This smells strongly of feminist angst wafting from the longhouse, with all its hatred of hierarchy.

It matters not the starting point of a man, of whether he is an ugly prole or of noble blood, but of what rank, role and indeed archetype he fulfills in his duty to the group. Is he oriented upward to a higher ideal? Yes, perhaps in highschool and modern society in general, such groups of men are a mockery of the past potentials achieved by patriarchal organization, but the fact that it still occurs naturally, without force, underlies the true instict of man.

To foids, such hierarchies are seen as something dangerous, something that must be dismantled and prevented from forming. And here you are, preaching their foul magic as gospel.

I done mental experiment, go back in time and talk to enkidu and ask "are you gay" while he looks at me and does not know the meaning of the word gay.

I think lots of senses, affections, emotions, social types and so on are manufactured. I also think some are completely fake.

Anyway, yeah I think they would be able to understand me, I can adapt to their jargon. I think since they also didnt knw social media, my speech would reach their ears and they would remember it. My linguistic abilities far surpass the avg of literacy in their age, and my ability would make me a propagandist in their time.

Honestly given the advantage, I wouldnt waste time talkin bout masculinity, but instead study them, pace and lead them.

I'm afraid the concerns of "the last men" (as Nietzsche has put it) are so far removed from most of history, that they would likely run you through. Maybe just leave you stranded, if you are lucky.

I don't mean to be hostile, but I believe you lack perspective.