Discussion On coping.

[twojei]

Dear @porco-dddio,

I have read some of your posts and something that I see really appears a lot is the word 'coping'. I would really like to know how it is that you define it. Even though we all know what it is I think that many people might interpret it differently. For some it is about coping with an unfulfilling or diffuclt life through other means of pleasure. For some, it is negating a harsh reality by means of self-distraction.

 

[porco-dddio]

Thanks. The term "coping" has a history inside incel community, specifically after the FBIcels took control (incels.is). At the time, they had an attitude I dubbed "cope breaking". Basically they performatively disilluded each other telling them that their inclinations or methods to resist incelism were false. They called it "cope".

They went around, blaming other people for activities they were doing, enforcing actively the mood of "doomerism". Doomerism is a low morale attitude, you hve to feel bad, loser, that sort of vibe.

If you refused their meme of doomerism, they would call it "cope", and sometimes write it big "COPE" or they also wrote it like this
C
O
P
E

Or other shortcuts. These people came from reddit, go figure. They had very nasty habits.

So, I quickly noticed what was at stake, its a process of problem reaction solution, and at the time they were promoting right wing materials. Like "critique of the west" or sociology of modernity or accelerationism BS, or nazi materials. All these political activations require of you to be low morale, angry and needy. Because to be acceptant of right wing political activation you need to be in that mental state. They want you to be dispossessed and destroyed. This is isnt a "conspiracy theory" I have read it on casaclown (casapound) publications, its a method they are actively engaged in.

So, the only "copes" they permitted were ideological. If you wrote bullshit repetitions derived from accelerationism or if yuo promoted george lincoln rockwell or elliot rodger, they did not call it "cope", they allowed it without questioning. If instead your attitude was different, maybe you talked about going hiking or learning a skill... they would call it "cope".

My reaction was simple, I started to boastfully admit Im coping, and I changed the term meaning. I started to abuse the term, using it everywhere. I repeated it over and over. It had no negative connotation the way I used it. I noticed others did it as well. I also challenged the "cope breakers" to show me their enlightenment, or enter blackpill challenges, lets compare who of us is more disilluded. I think I have more blackpill knowledge than they have.

 

[porco-dddio]

What irritates me is I tried to talk individually to them, like there was an user called "blckpillpres" and he never replied to me. I asked repeatedly what is a "cope". Because on the internet, the term is not treated negatively. Its simply an adaptation mechanism, its a way to rearrange your perceptions around a reality you encountered, simple as.

I dont even know if its incels who invented this nonsense, I seen it used also by trannies who follow 4chan, and they use the term "cope" exactly the same way incels do. This isnt normal. Normal people dont use the term "cope" in that way. Only a "perennially online" (how they would frame it) piece of shit does it.

Trying to improve your situation becomes "cope"
Finding rationality outside the incel group's framework becomes "cope"
Maintaining some level of self respect and morality becomes "cope."
Pursuing hobbies, relationships, fitness, education, or skills becomes "cope"

Besides, I have read it on a publication from casapound 2023, that they want to engage actively in this process, not exactly called "cope breaking" but by their definition it would be a method where they engage purposefully in destructive behavior, so that people may be more acceptant of their "solutions".

The communists also call it "demoralization", even if it has another purpose.

And also from casapound, in an interview (2021) the guy interviewed said "things have to get wrse before they get better", in other words this is another clue. I had the suspect the entire attitude of "cope breaking" was a part of a political activation. And I dont really have "hard evidence". But to be honest is very difficult not to see it.

Just observe their dishonesty and immoral behavior. They frame as "cope" anything that can help you. They allow you to worship criminals, nazis and psyops like nick griftentes, that isnt "cope". They allow only what destroys you. Their moral deficiency is enough to warrant an investigation and a preemptive reaction. They are enemies of the incel.

 

[FairnessandEquality]

Cope always coping

 

[Wolfstorm]

They went around, blaming other people for activities they were doing, enforcing actively the mood of "doomerism". Doomerism is a low morale attitude, you hve to feel bad, loser, that sort of vibe.

If you refused their meme of doomerism, they would call it "cope", and sometimes write it big "COPE" or they also wrote it like this
C
O
P
E

I saw this happening in 4chan several times. You cant have a hobby, you cant build anything that causes you pleasure, you cant fill your mind with pleasurable stuff.
Now, we all know 4chan is run by feds(tm) so the pattern repeats. And then you have pepes, soyjaks and chad vs virgin comparisons so that you find it funny and cant detect the subtle ideas being enforced.
They want you to feel sad, neglected and helpless, so that you can be open to suggestion. Basically MKUltra stuff, now in the interwebz.

 

[porco-dddio]

I saw this happening in 4chan several times. You cant have a hobby, you cant build anything that causes you pleasure, you cant fill your mind with pleasurable stuff.
Now, we all know 4chan is run by feds(tm) so the pattern repeats. And then you have pepes, soyjaks and chad vs virgin comparisons so that you find it funny and cant detect the subtle ideas being enforced.
They want you to feel sad, neglected and helpless, so that you can be open to suggestion. Basically MKUltra stuff, now in the interwebz.

correct thats their method to induce their doomerism.

sense of doom isnt natural, it has to be inflicted on you. nobody develops it on his own, is taught thru this strategy

 

[Osnep]

What irritates me is I tried to talk individually to them, like there was an user called "blckpillpres" and he never replied to me. I asked repeatedly what is a "cope". Because on the internet, the term is not treated negatively. Its simply an adaptation mechanism, its a way to rearrange your perceptions around a reality you encountered, simple as.

I dont even know if its incels who invented this nonsense, I seen it used also by trannies who follow 4chan, and they use the term "cope" exactly the same way incels do. This isnt normal. Normal people dont use the term "cope" in that way. Only a "perennially online" (how they would frame it) piece of shit does it.

Trying to improve your situation becomes "cope"
Finding rationality outside the incel group's framework becomes "cope"
Maintaining some level of self respect and morality becomes "cope."
Pursuing hobbies, relationships, fitness, education, or skills becomes "cope"

Besides, I have read it on a publication from casapound 2023, that they want to engage actively in this process, not exactly called "cope breaking" but by their definition it would be a method where they engage purposefully in destructive behavior, so that people may be more acceptant of their "solutions".

The communists also call it "demoralization", even if it has another purpose.

And also from casapound, in an interview (2021) the guy interviewed said "things have to get wrse before they get better", in other words this is another clue. I had the suspect the entire attitude of "cope breaking" was a part of a political activation. And I dont really have "hard evidence". But to be honest is very difficult not to see it.

Just observe their dishonesty and immoral behavior. They frame as "cope" anything that can help you. They allow you to worship criminals, nazis and psyops like nick griftentes, that isnt "cope". They allow only what destroys you. Their moral deficiency is enough to warrant an investigation and a preemptive reaction. They are enemies of the incel.

Read every word.

Everything you said was spot on, especially about .is being against people who suffer from true inceldom.

Its been 2 years since I discovered .is. I wasn't a regular user, but I did have a decent post count. Basically like you said, they promote doomerism, and don't give incels any real answers or solutions to how they can salvage their lives after being enlightened of the hard truths of the blackpill. They just want you to regurgitate the same sentiment that it's over.

I created an account here today because from now on I want to dwell in a more whitepilled community. Well at least I thought this was a whitepill forum, but apparently it's not anymore. Shame there isn't at least a small board dedicated to whitepill theory discussion. Anyways, the fact that there are board for interests/"copes" and what not, is already whitepilled.

 

[porco-dddio]

Read every word.

Everything you said was spot on, especially about .is being against people who suffer from true inceldom.

Its been 2 years since I discovered .is. I wasn't a regular user, but I did have a decent post count. Basically like you said, they promote doomerism, and don't give incels any real answers or solutions to how they can salvage their lives after being enlightened of the hard truths of the blackpill. They just want you to regurgitate the same sentiment that it's over.

I created an account here today because from now on I want to dwell in a more whitepilled community. Well at least I thought this was a whitepill forum, but apparently it's not anymore. Shame there isn't at least a small board dedicated to whitepill theory discussion. Anyways, the fact that there are board for interests/"copes" and what not, is already whitepilled.

all true. But im not a whitepill theorist sorry.

Someone else invented it, I think you could interact yourself inventing whitepill, its pretty much open to interpretation for what I seen.

Yes I do hobbies, good idea to hobbymax.

 

[Osnep]

all true. But im not a whitepill theorist sorry.

Someone else invented it, I think you could interact yourself inventing whitepill, its pretty much open to interpretation for what I seen.

Yes I do hobbies, good idea to hobbymax.

kind of as a side question i'm not sure you know the answer to but I've been thinking about:

Who benefits from .is having a doomerist community. Is it simply the founder because it drives user retention(.is has a gambling website as a sponsor btw jfl)? Or is there something more sinister going on like .is having some connection to \pol\ or 4chan in general; because from what I know doomerism was popularized on 4chan and allegedly Epstein created \pol\ so... make of that what you will.

 

[porco-dddio]

kind of as a side question i'm not sure you know the answer to but I've been thinking about:

Who benefits from .is having a doomerist community. Is it simply the founder because it drives user retention(.is has a gambling website as a sponsor btw jfl)? Or is there something more sinister going on like .is having some connection to \pol\ or 4chan in general; because from what I know doomerism was popularized on 4chan and allegedly Epstein created \pol\ so... make of that what you will.

Its a criminal organization: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctioned_Suicide

Read in "references" theres hundreds of victims of these people.

They called it in the past "the trifecta"

They got it planned like this, sort of a program: lookism > incels.is > sanctioned suicide.

The meme they had was = Hope > Cope > Rope.

So you would start "looksmaxing" believing the lies of redpill. Then you would fail, and redpill is done ON PURPOSE to make you fail and significantly reduce likelyhood of you having any sort of "success" and can hinder even chads themselves. Then, after they ruined you completely, teaching you false jargon and habituating you to ritual humiliation and abuses all day long, they send you to "incels.is".

On incels.is, you will have already learned their jargon, you will express various "copes", and their task ahead is perform what I dubbed "cope breaking". They engage in ritual bullying, routine humiliation, they subject you to "forum leaders" who pick apart your ideas, dissect them and humiliate you. Group humiliation is central in this dynamic. Its a tactic done also by jeowah witnesses, they ask kids to write a diary and the elder can open it in front of a group and read it, which is extremely humiliating.

You do the same on incels.is, write your life, your aspiration or ideas, and they humiliate you and slander you ruthlessly continuously.

After a while, you will be mentally ruined, suffering horribly. And they have the final destination, sanctioned suicide or similar places. Nowadays I dont know where they go, probably in neet community. And they die there. They suicide. They are encouraged to suicide.

In other words, this is a criminal network, it has also been documented a couple of years ago, some parents did protests but they dont mean shit. Seems like incels.is is a criminal organization, and some people like zesto exposed them.

 

[Wolfstorm]

Or is there something more sinister going on like .is having some connection to \pol\ or 4chan in general; because from what I know doomerism was popularized on 4chan and allegedly Epstein created \pol\

Loosh farming.

 

[Depresso]

kind of as a side question i'm not sure you know the answer to but I've been thinking about:

Who benefits from .is having a doomerist community. Is it simply the founder because it drives user retention(.is has a gambling website as a sponsor btw jfl)? Or is there something more sinister going on like .is having some connection to \pol\ or 4chan in general; because from what I know doomerism was popularized on 4chan and allegedly Epstein created \pol\ so... make of that what you will.

You have two sinister things going on here, /pol/stein which was confirmend in the leaks and masters incel soft power network. The point of "cope breaking" is to keep you from finding happiness in life and to keep you in the ragebait cycle and destructively motivated. If you're somewhat happy, you've got something to lose and a stake in the peace.

Something interesting about Yukio Mishima's death cult is that only the top 10% knew about his plans to to commit seppuku. I still think the people involved in this stuff are mentally unsustainable and are attracted to self-destructive movements because of that.

Serious - What do you think of the accelerationist types?

What do you think of the movement in general, so both the ideological and the militant types? I'm going to post my take as a reply. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militant_accelerationism https://elysianfields.se/threads/san-diego-shooter-was-a-femboy-lover.8578/

elysianfields.se

 

[porco-dddio]

theres some mutual attraction, the manipulators find the teenagers, but the teenagers themselves go seek for the manipulators that transfer the package of acceleartionism, nazism, satanism and so on

They blend the usual satanism + nazism. James mason, george lincoln rockwell, giulio ebola. The spinoff is always nazism + satanism and islam for some reason, and it converges into stalin worship.

Their visual language is skulls, masks, black rioting aesthetics, occult images like triangles and symbols like 666 order of nine angles, black sun. So on.

Made a porn comic once, where I reveal the meaning of "black sun". Its essentially the crushed femboy anus. You see that dark spot at the center, and cracks emanating from it. What it means is your anus gets cracked, by some macho dude. Homosexual predators often find these vulnerable delicate femboys, and crack their asses.

Overall, yes theres probbly some intel gathering involved, but also lots of gay porn.

 

[porco-dddio]

black community has to fight against rap music. and we whiteys gotta fight against nazi dogshit bcause it ruins us and manipulates the kids.

 

[Depresso]

Its a criminal organization: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctioned_Suicide

Read in "references" theres hundreds of victims of these people.

They called it in the past "the trifecta"

They got it planned like this, sort of a program: lookism > incels.is > sanctioned suicide.

The meme they had was = Hope > Cope > Rope.

So you would start "looksmaxing" believing the lies of redpill. Then you would fail, and redpill is done ON PURPOSE to make you fail and significantly reduce likelyhood of you having any sort of "success" and can hinder even chads themselves. Then, after they ruined you completely, teaching you false jargon and habituating you to ritual humiliation and abuses all day long, they send you to "incels.is".

On incels.is, you will have already learned their jargon, you will express various "copes", and their task ahead is perform what I dubbed "cope breaking". They engage in ritual bullying, routine humiliation, they subject you to "forum leaders" who pick apart your ideas, dissect them and humiliate you. Group humiliation is central in this dynamic. Its a tactic done also by jeowah witnesses, they ask kids to write a diary and the elder can open it in front of a group and read it, which is extremely humiliating.

You do the same on incels.is, write your life, your aspiration or ideas, and they humiliate you and slander you ruthlessly continuously.

After a while, you will be mentally ruined, suffering horribly. And they have the final destination, sanctioned suicide or similar places. Nowadays I dont know where they go, probably in neet community. And they die there. They suicide. They are encouraged to suicide.

In other words, this is a criminal network, it has also been documented a couple of years ago, some parents did protests but they dont mean shit. Seems like incels.is is a criminal organization, and some people like zesto exposed them.

I'm not too sure how much you know about the redpill.

It has been dead for a long time before the podcasters came in and La Marcus created his forums. The original community left and moved onto other labels and then the grifters, the haters and /pol/steiners moved in. It got too defined by contrarianist politics and not by the problems it tried to solve and the solutions the community created.

It's a commercial cesspool now, just like looksmaxxing is about to become.



TLDW 12:05, the redpill has been here for 2 decades already before Tate blew up on TikTok

 

[porco-dddio]

I'm not too sure how much you know about the redpill.

Redpill is alive.

Compare johnny red bible to contemporary blackpill.

2000s "redpill" is exactly the same as contemporary "blackpill"

JRbible is here: https://elysianfields.se/threads/i-translated-jrbible.8658/

 

[Depresso]

theres some mutual attraction, the manipulators find the teenagers, but the teenagers themselves go seek for the manipulators that transfer the package of acceleartionism, nazism, satanism and so on

They blend the usual satanism + nazism. James mason, george lincoln rockwell, giulio ebola. The spinoff is always nazism + satanism and islam for some reason, and it converges into stalin worship.

Their visual language is skulls, masks, black rioting aesthetics, occult images like triangles and symbols like 666 order of nine angles, black sun. So on.

Made a porn comic once, where I reveal the meaning of "black sun". Its essentially the crushed femboy anus. You see that dark spot at the center, and cracks emanating from it. What it means is your anus gets cracked, by some macho dude. Homosexual predators often find these vulnerable delicate femboys, and crack their asses.

Overall, yes theres probbly some intel gathering involved, but also lots of gay porn.

You mean like this?

 

[porco-dddio]

You mean like this?

No i admit im not uptodate bout recent fake shooters.

Usually I wait some reputable conspiracy theorists to discuss the supposed "mass shooter" before deciding if is real or not.

I was thinking of the various teens I seen all my life, the type of people who gets manipulated by nazis on the internet.

 

[porco-dddio]

TLDW 12:05, the redpill has been here for 2 decades already before Tate blew up on TikTok

Redpill didnt die at all. Im skippin thru that video the guy is apologizing for some bad behaviors.

It didnt go away, it simply became mainstream.

Its the samewith alt right, people say "alt right is dead", no it isnt, its simply mainstream and now everyone has beliefs based on these old "alt right notions".

Inside manuresphere, which is very much alive and well, people repeat only redpill jargon. Nothing else is repeated.

Concepts are all coming from redpill. For example: hypergamy theory is given for granted, is considered ultimate reality. Only thing from redpill that effectively died is "RK selection" meme, the rest is alive inculding "woman nature", alpha-beta mythology, the gloomy prophecies of "excess males" and the enire narrative is kept by grifters, and they repackage pretty much exactly the same contents of 20 years ago.

Instead of dating advice they do metadating D&D for normies which includes endless discussions on dating etiquette on te media

It didnt die, its simply "average normie belief" at this point.

 

[Depresso]

Loosh farming.

Always.

 

[Depresso]

Redpill is alive.

Compare johnny red bible to contemporary blackpill.

2000s "redpill" is exactly the same as contemporary "blackpill"

JRbible is here: https://elysianfields.se/threads/i-translated-jrbible.8658/

Does Johnny Red happen to be you?

 

[porco-dddio]

Does Johnny Red happen to be you?

no he was a local "Prophet" we had a long time ago.

it was observed back then, that thru degradation of concept of "redpill" it began to look very much similar or identical to what previously we called "bluepill".

Bluepill was this idea you have to approach women and learn "approach techniques" and on and on it goes.

But I know the full story, because bluepill PUA peddled around 2005 was 1990 feminism.

Basically feminists wrote the original "approach culture" I also got some of their books from the 90s. These books were all about educating men to "pick signals" and learn to recognize when women are interested and improving their capabilities to "get what women mean" learning woman communicatoin skills.

These books said it was the solution to "patriarchy" or "arranged dating". bcause the big idea is we would introduce dating market, and women would go around sending signals.

Set of theories was rebranded into "the redpill" and became PUA community.

Overall i got the entire history in my mind dont worry.

 

[Wolfstorm]

The merovingians perfected loosh farming. They no longer need blood, they only need your fear, anguish and despair.
That's why the vampire myth became so popular in pop culture, in order to distract the meatbots from the real vampires.
Who is behind the entire /pol/stein complex? The joos? The joos are just the bankers and media tycoons. There is an aristocracy behind them.