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African giant
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This is always not an argument. We have present Canines

Also like production of the enzyme Lingual lipase in the saliva that begins breakdown of animal & milk fats?

Your like using my point in reverse. The rumen of a healthy ruminant on a forage diet typically has a neutral pH 6.0-7.0.
Our PH is 1. Like that of a Vulture. That, YES, feeds on carrion & dead carcass. MEAT BRAHHHHHH


I see what your getting at but aversion to killing animals isn't instinctual. Its more taught then anything.

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We'll still be waiting for the study. In the mean-time just just spew lies about the Maasai & Inuits
Your counterarguments are just dismissals. I'm not going to bother. You are set in your ways. I used to think like you do, that humans are hyper carnivore, prey hunting animals. But the reality is that we are animals that eat a variety of foods. Think about it, what evolutionary advantage does it give humans to be carnivore? Completely ignoring a very large food group that was available in large quantities around them? We come from a long lineage of plant eating hominids. Also, you use false dichotomies. You say that eating a western or vegan diet is bad, which is correct. But does that mean that carnivore is the answer? I know you'll dismiss all of this and continue eating RAWWWWW MEAAAAAAT, but I hope someone else takes away something from this.
 
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Your counterarguments are just dismissals. I'm not going to bother. You are set in your ways.
Yeah I know I sound really contrarian but its just given facts.
I used to think like you do, that humans are hyper carnivore, prey hunting animals. But the reality is that we are animals that eat a variety of foods. Think about it, what evolutionary advantage does it give humans to be carnivore? Completely ignoring a very large food group that was available in large quantities around them? We come from a long lineage of plant eating hominids.
If there were fruits, vegtables, berries, & nuts everywhere we would've been herbivores. I don't know the last time I've seen actual natural occurring vegtables. Have you?
Also, you use false dichotomies. You say that eating a western or vegan diet is bad, which is correct. But does that mean that carnivore is the answer? I know you'll dismiss all of this and continue eating RAWWWWW MEAAAAAAT, but I hope someone else takes away something from this.
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The Invisible one
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We'll still be waiting for the study. In the mean-time just just spew lies about the Maasai & Inuits
Read this short article and check the diagrams:
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/06/masai-and-atherosclerosis.html...
It looks almost binary, doesn't it? What could be causing the dramatic jump in atherosclerosis at age 40? Here's another figure, of total cholesterol (top) and "sudanophilia" (fatty streaks in the arteries, bottom). Note that the Muran period is superimposed (top).
There appears to be a pattern here. Either the Masai men are eating nothing but milk, meat and blood and they're nearly free from atherosclerosis, or they're eating however they please and they have as much atherosclerosis as the average American. There doesn't seem to be much in between.
Here's a quote from the paper that I found interesting:
We believe... that the Muran escapes some noxious dietary agent for a time. Obviously, this is neither animal fat nor cholesterol. The old and the young Masai do have access to such processed staples as flour, sugar, confections and shortenings through the Indian dukas scattered about Masailand. These foods could carry the hypothetical agent."
This may suggest that you can eat a wide variety of foods and be healthy, except industrial grain products (particularly white flour), sugar, industrial vegetable oil and other processed food. The Masai are just one more example of a group that's healthy when eating a traditional diet.
in short it shows meat and cholestrol doesnt cause CVD but flour and sugar does.
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https://openheart.bmj.com/content/openhrt/5/2/e000776.full.pdf

The introduction of refined carbohydrates in the Alaskan Inland Inuit diet may have led to an increase in dental caries, hypertension andatherosclerosis
There was an approximate 50% increase in the intake of refined carbohydrates in the Alaskan Inland Inuit from 1955 to 1957 to 1965. This may have lead to the dramatic rise in dental caries and subsequent increase in athero-sclerosis and coronary artery disease.1 4 The Alaskan Inuit eating a traditional low-carbohydrate, high-fat/protein diet had a much lower incidence of atherosclerosis, hypertension and dental caries versus more westernised populations. The health decline of the Alaskan Inland Inuit may have been driven by the rise in the intake of refined carbohydrates and sugar.
 
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