LOL San Diego shooter was a femboy lover

[Schwarzwald]

I don’t need to be some stupid amerimutt to know what they did was short-sighted

To whom? From what angel and what perspective. For someone who hates being forgotten I'll tell you something, those two fruit cakes with low scores and shit taste will be remember long after your dead.

This is the smallest caveat I will admit to @Depresso , that sometimes death is the act it self. But the message is still there.

You have to be so disconnected from your children's lives that you don't notice the homo erotic shit they are doing.

And not having your guns looked up yikes.

But again @GripMaxxing your view on the topic is myopic, not everyone's out here living for tiny dopamine hits and being gay on the internet. They clearly were gay internet long enough that they wanted to step it up.

If there goal was to be a foot note in the history of violence they did it, are we all laughing at them and mocking them? I mean ya we kinda are. To have your death mock on a crypto bros gambling site. To be etched into the retarded annals of internet spergdom?

Do most of us mock and laugh at you? I don't speak to for anyone here but I do. But I'll tell you this, I won't be think about you after the moment I put my phone down to do anything else in life. But I will remember that fruit cake kid blowing his brains out while up chucking all his blood and brain matter, and I'll think "huh, Evola was right."

News flash if your really into fictional character your just one slippery fall down the shooter sperg pipe line.

 

[Schwarzwald]

@GripMaxxing @Schwarzwald You're both soy?

More a connoisseur of the macabre, but again I don't think I value anyone option here. Call me soy idk, I'm comfortable in my skin, my life and my position.

Here check this out, this one fucking makes me laugh! EVERY.FUCKING.TIME.

And he he live streamed it if I recall, but the funniest part is the yakub in the back ground, just watching and judging like a silent stern father figure lmao.

 

[BlackCommander]

@GripMaxxing @Schwarzwald You're both soy?

Soy milk tastes good

 

[GripMaxxing]

Soy milk tastes good

It really do tbh, but I prefer almond milk for its creamier texture

 

[Depresso]

More a connoisseur of the macabre, but again I don't think I value anyone option here. Call me soy idk, I'm comfortable in my skin, my life and my position.

Here check this out, this one fucking makes me laugh! EVERY.FUCKING.TIME.

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And he he live streamed it if I recall, but the funniest part is the yakub in the back ground, just watching and judging like a silent stern father figure lmao.

Okay you're being the normie here, I didn't mean soymilk by that.

 

[BlackCommander]

It really do tbh, but I prefer almond milk for its creamier texture

Idk, soy milk feels like it goes with anything while almond milk tastes too sweet

 

[GripMaxxing]

Idk, soy milk feels like it goes with anything while almond milk tastes too sweet

I like them unsweetened

 

[BlackCommander]

I like them unsweetened

Soyboy

 

[Schwarzwald]

Soy milk tastes good

It really do tbh, but I prefer almond milk for its creamier texture

You two just like nut juice sold as milk, gay niggah alert.

 

[Depresso]

To whom? From what angel and what perspective. For someone who hates being forgotten I'll tell you something, those two fruit cakes with low scores and shit taste will be remember long after your dead.

This is the smallest caveat I will admit to @Depresso , that sometimes death is the act it self. But the message is still there.

You have to be so disconnected from your children's lives that you don't notice the homo erotic shit they are doing.

And not having your guns looked up yikes.

But again @GripMaxxing your view on the topic is myopic, not everyone's out here living for tiny dopamine hits and being gay on the internet. They clearly were gay internet long enough that they wanted to step it up.

If there goal was to be a foot note in the history of violence they did it, are we all laughing at them and mocking them? I mean ya we kinda are. To have your death mock on a crypto bros gambling site. To be etched into the retarded annals of internet spergdom?

Do most of us mock and laugh at you? I don't speak to for anyone here but I do. But I'll tell you this, I won't be think about you after the moment I put my phone down to do anything else in life. But I will remember that fruit cake kid blowing his brains out while up chucking all his blood and brain matter, and I'll think "huh, Evola was right."

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News flash if your really into fictional character your just one slippery fall down the shooter sperg pipe line.

They don't want to be lonely in death. That's scary.

Why are all of their obsessions female characters?

Confessions of a Mask - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Schwarzwald]

Yakub is not pleased with you white devils!

Go do yakubs bidding!!!

White devils with there trick-a-nomics !

 

[Depresso]

Yakub is not pleased with you white devils!
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Go do yakubs bidding!!!

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White devils with there trick-a-nomics !

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Okay so that's where that meme originates. I saw the indian version of one of the pics.

 

[Schwarzwald]

Okay so that's where that meme originates. I saw the indian version of one of the pics

Yeah I feel like I posted it here once or twice.

You white devil!

Oh how truly terrifying...

https://jwa.org/blog/how-i-found-my-village-other-black-jewish-moms

Well in any case, all of it fatherless behavior.

What's really telling is the level of dissociation and projection.

Normies tend to just be that normal, few independent thought actions or intentions. It's when you add neurodivergent people into the mix allow them to hide in the group and access to weapons is where you start getting issues.

That and lack of self control.

Like this bitch big head looking ass Hilary Clinton doppelganger.

Thats what im really waiting for is more female killers, we are pipe lining women into these roles. Woman have the same dangerous ideation as men but just don't often have the drive to commit it to action.

I think a lot of what gets lost in translation is how much effort it takes to go and do these crimes.

 

[Schwarzwald]

They don't want to be lonely in death. That's scary.

Why are all of their obsessions female characters?

Confessions of a Mask - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Again what ever commonality is there is also out weighted by Asian culture and heritage.

 

[Schwarzwald]

Ah here we go. Don't click the link whatever you do don't watch the video and just close the window do a 360 and walk away...

Spoiler: News footage not the raw.

 

[Schwarzwald]

Ah here we go. Don't click the link whatever you do don't watch the video and just close the window do a 360 and walk away...

Spoiler: News footage not the raw.

the elusive hacker group named 4chan stricks again.

 

[Depresso]

Again what ever commonality is there is also out weighted by Asian culture and heritage.

Asian culture and heritage are better at controlling the human ape if anything, almost oppressive at that. Sam Hyde is very much Evola.

Other commentators and writers say that Mishima's Confessions of a Mask was part of a trend that was embracing Western literary traditions "at the expense of their own [Japanese] heritage".

This is about my theory that there are walking "exclamation marks". I've heard of some other theories linking far-right thinking to homosexuality but I haven't read enough to decide whether I believe that yet.

 

[Depresso]

@Schwarzwald , you might find this one interesting.

Buddhism vs Barbarianism as way out - Insights from Non-western cultural background

What can we do when we don't care about happiness for everyone, but just for us? I see lot of people here talks about buddhism which is probably unfamiliar concept for westerners in general, and hence more attraction. We are all outcasts here, so we naturally have aversion to what our own...

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An Olympus post from a Japanese reverse weeaboo

 

[Schwarzwald]

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Asian culture and heritage are better at controlling the human ape if anything, almost oppressive at that. Sam Hyde is very much Evola.

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Other commentators and writers say that Mishima's Confessions of a Mask was part of a trend that was embracing Western literary traditions "at the expense of their own [Japanese] heritage".

This is about my theory that there are walking "exclamation marks". I've heard of some other theories linking far-right thinking to homosexuality but I haven't read enough to decide whether I believe that yet.

We can agree to disagree about Asians bug men controlling much of anything.

Or imagine as if they had some sort of utopia?

What is this fixation on Mishima's?

What's your age bracket and ethno heritage? Clearly you don't have to answer but I'm curious where this level of certainty is coming from.

I would assume any "study" linking homosexual to right or left are missing massive amounts of date, we are now just in the last what 60?80? years not chemically castrating men or lobotomizing them if we find out they are homosexual.

As most "modern men/males/boys" your view on the world and it's stage is myopic you seem to think think all the data points are layed out and mapped by now, that ever new idea is the final and most correct. This Frankfort school/modernity is king mind set is extremely ignorant and bind to the really that life is far more dynamic and interwoven then you are willing to admit.

You seemingly want them to be some sort of universal answer to life.

Like a few days ago we are talking about public proformances such as shooting and what have you that ultimately resulted in death, a death march or a second and then you said you gave me two examples of people who wanted to die and death wasn't the exclamation point but how is that when the two examples you gave me were political Asians doing something that their ancestors have a huge history of?

I struggle to see the point you are trying to make. Whether it's something about suicide or modernity or what?

Like this mans suicide protest, you are telling me he's just suicidal? You take all agency away from him and his choice to pour gasoline on himself in a public place and film it in protest of a war he saw as a genocide.

Give me a break. To have the fortitude to go out and plan to light yourself on fire to the point of death is something I doubt anyone here could do and even more on doubt one in a million people could do.

If you wanna write off peoples mental anguish but say that instead of trying to make some vague point that these people just wanted to die and took some people with them.

Most psychological will agree with me that when people go to attack soft targets such as children they are looking to hurt society that has hurt them in some way shape or form .

 

[Depresso]

Like this mans suicide protest, you are telling me he's just suicidal? You take all agency away from him and his choice to pour gasoline on himself in a public place and film it in protest of a war he saw as a genocide.

Yes, absolutely. We both know that he knew that it was futile and that does not take away anything from his agency. He simply chose to be remembered for what he saw as genocide. He poured gasoline on himself and he knew that was not going to change anything about the Palestinian genocide. He chose his grave.

What is this fixation on Mishima's?

He stares back at you through his picture. Can you not see that? Reread my first post about him on this forum.

Yukio Mishima bibliography - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A lot of reading and writing and then... a seppuku?

As most "modern men/males/boys" your view on the world and it's stage is myopic you seem to think think all the data points are layed out and mapped by now, that ever new idea is the final and most correct. This Frankfort school/modernity is king mind set is extremely ignorant and bind to the really that life is far more dynamic and interwoven then you are willing to admit.

I don't really follow the Frankfurt School, their followers just reject eveything and all conversation with them just falls apart.

Like a few days ago we are talking about public proformances such as shooting and what have you that ultimately resulted in death, a death march or a second and then you said you gave me two examples of people who wanted to die and death wasn't the exclamation point but how is that when the two examples you gave me were political Asians doing something that their ancestors have a huge history of?

Those two examples were very clear. Their desire for death occurred to them well before their adopted reasons. The other one, Morita, was writing love letters to death in high school.

I mean I could just ignore what's in front of me and say it was their ancestors.

Give me a break. To have the fortitude to go out and plan to light yourself on fire to the point of death is something I doubt anyone here could do and even more on doubt one in a million people could do.

Non-suicidal people don't plan suicides. Fire is hot, you know?

If you wanna write off peoples mental anguish but say that instead of trying to make some vague point that these people just wanted to die and took some people with them.

I'm not writing it off, in fact I sense that Mishima might have been hiding some absurd existential pain but it's something I can't really say because I haven't read ALL of his works. If there was honesty in the matter the innocent could be saved from this. Mishima dissuaded multiple people from committing seppuku with him. If he gave them those orders they would have died with him.

For others, the other part of this debate in on the Roko's Basilisk thread

Theory - Thoughts on Roko's Basilisk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk Roko's basilisk is a thought experiment which states that there could be an artificial superintelligence in the future that, while otherwise benevolent, would punish anyone who knew of its potential existence but did not directly contribute to its...

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[Schwarzwald]

@Schwarzwald , you might find this one interesting.

Buddhism vs Barbarianism as way out - Insights from Non-western cultural background

What can we do when we don't care about happiness for everyone, but just for us? I see lot of people here talks about buddhism which is probably unfamiliar concept for westerners in general, and hence more attraction. We are all outcasts here, so we naturally have aversion to what our own...

elysianfields.se

An Olympus post from a Japanese reverse weeaboo

Idk what I was supposed to take away from that writing? Or what you hoped I would have gleamed.

The moment someone floats "homosexuality correlates with political orientation" as if it's a serious analytical framework, you know they're operating at the level of pop psychology pattern matching rather than anything structural.

It's like Buzzfeed with a darker aesthetic, but the same epistemological quality. "You won't believe what these mass shooters had in common!!!"

Well wait let me guess, mental illness? suicidal ideation? Homicidal ideation? ostracization? Being bullied? Have higher then average IQ? Being straight? Being gay? Oh no clearly they right wing orrr wait maybe left wing?

Or maybe just maybe life is more then a binary set of yes and no.

It was genuinely interesting untill and then it collapses into this loose web of "sexually confused people do crazy things" which explains nothing and goes nowhere.

Let's just put it down here and leave it at that then, you think that people are just suicidal and they for some reason choose to make a elaborate plan to die and kill as many people as they can just to be remembered and it has no larger trauma or weight to it at all. Just some gays doing some killings.

Damn dem gays strick again!

Well get you next time you rascally homos!!!

 

[Depresso]

Idk what I was supposed to take away from that writing? Or what you hoped I would have gleamed.

The moment someone floats "homosexuality correlates with political orientation" as if it's a serious analytical framework, you know they're operating at the level of pop psychology pattern matching rather than anything structural.

It's like Buzzfeed with a darker aesthetic, but the same epistemological quality. "You won't believe what these mass shooters had in common!!!"

Well wait let me guess, mental illness? suicidal ideation? Homicidal ideation? ostracization? Being bullied? Have higher then average IQ? Being straight? Being gay? Oh no clearly they right wing orrr wait maybe left wing?

Or maybe just maybe life is more then a binary set of yes and no.

It was genuinely interesting untill and then it collapses into this loose web of "sexually confused people do crazy things" which explains nothing and goes nowhere.

Let's just put it down here and leave it at that then, you think that people are just suicidal and they for some reason choose to make a elaborate plan to die and kill as many people as they can just to be remembered and it has no larger trauma or weight to it at all. Just some gays doing some killings.

Damn dem gays strick again!

Well get you next time you rascally homos!!!

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You're free to maintain your garden of ideas. You seem protective about Mishima and Morita even though they were clearly suicidal well before they committed their suicides.

Those two were about as clear as it gets and any other explanation is obviously cope. How do you ignore Morita's writings about death? My questions are simply "Are there others like this?" and "How many are there?".

Patriotism (short story) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This is a story about seppuku almost 10 years before his own suicide by seppuku. There is a clear theme here but was the "Tatenokai" theatre even necessary? Was it necessary to involve a 100 members?

This is entirely about the rabbit hole for me and there is more than enough data to start hypothesising theories. I'll follow this until I get tired of it.

 

[Schwarzwald]

Yes, absolutely. We both know that he knew that it was futile and that does not take away anything from his agency. He simply chose to be remembered for what he saw as genocide. He poured gasoline on himself and he knew that was not going to change anything about the Palestinian genocide. He chose his grave.


He stares back at you through his picture. Can you not see that? Reread my first post about him on this forum.

Yukio Mishima bibliography - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A lot of reading and writing and then... a seppuku?

I don't really follow the Frankfurt School, their followers just reject eveything and all conversation with them just falls apart.


Those two examples were very clear. Their desire for death occurred to them well before their adopted reasons. The other one, Morita, was writing love letters to death in high school.

I mean I could just ignore what's in front of me and say it was their ancestors.


Non-suicidal people don't plan suicides. Fire is hot, you know?


I'm not writing it off, in fact I sense that Mishima might have been hiding some absurd existential pain but it's something I can't really say because I haven't read ALL of his works. If there was honesty in the matter the innocent could be saved from this. Mishima dissuaded multiple people from committing seppuku with him. If he gave them those orders they would have died with him.

For others, the other part of this debate in on the Roko's Basilisk thread

Theory - Thoughts on Roko's Basilisk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk Roko's basilisk is a thought experiment which states that there could be an artificial superintelligence in the future that, while otherwise benevolent, would punish anyone who knew of its potential existence but did not directly contribute to its...

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"Non suicidal people don't plan suicides. Fire is hot, you know?"

That's not an argument, that's circular.

Using the act of planning a suicide as proof of suicidal ideation and using suicidal ideation to dismiss the message. It proves nothing except that he's committed to the conclusion.

How do you not understand that part?

"he was writing love letters to death in high school" that's a real observation.

Even now you are treating early death fixation as disqualifying the political content, which doesn't follow.

As I said my self I am a connoisseur of the macabre and have been since I was a child from poems, art and music.

This is what I'm saying your view is myopic, you treat people like they have no agency, are some sort of wind up toys that are shadows of there real selves. Like they are background characters or NPCs and have not inter monologue or thoughts of there own.

Someone can have a genuine relationship with death as a concept AND choose a meaningful death with real political intent. Those aren't mutually exclusive!

Brooooo.

Clearly like I said we have to agree to disagree agree, you have said nothing to make me budge from my position. If anything you have caused me to dig in deeper.

You just are not going to budge because the whole framework requires you to sees through the performance while everyone else is fooled by the message right?

Conceding to my point means conceding that the acts have genuine weight, which collapses your detached analyst position.

The final question I want to pose to you is , do you think all suicide bombers in the middle east are suicidal or do you think they are under a religious delusional?

I made my point clearly.

 

[Schwarzwald]

You're free to maintain your garden of ideas. You seem protective about Mishima and Morita even though they were clearly suicidal well before they committed their suicides.

Those two were about as clear as it gets and any other explanation is obviously cope. How do you ignore Morita's writings about death? My questions are simply "Are there others like this?" and "How many are there?".

Patriotism (short story) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This is a story about seppuku almost 10 years before his own suicide by seppuku. There is a clear theme here but was the "Tatenokai" theatre even necessary? Was it necessary to involve a 100 members?

This is entirely about the rabbit hole for me and there is more than enough data to start hypothesising theories. I'll follow this until I get tired of it.

Wow

"you seem protective about Mishima" a limp wristed attempt to psychologize me out of the argument, implying my pushback is emotional rather than logical?

While you sit here and continue to circle and drive the same point on two people while I bring up person after person, event after event disproving your ideas but those two yes they are where the conversation begins and ends for you.

Bravo bravo.

 

[Depresso]

Even now you are treating early death fixation as disqualifying the political content, which doesn't follow.

Yes absolutely. If there's an early suicidal ideation then future suicide does not count towards politics because they were already suicidal.

That's not an argument, that's circular.

You said not many would do that. I said they would have to be suicidal first then, the statement would apply.

This is what I'm saying your view is myopic, you treat people like they have no agency, are some sort of wind up toys that are shadows of there real selves. Like they are background characters or NPCs and have not inter monologue or thoughts of there own.

Someone can have a genuine relationship with death as a concept AND choose a meaningful death with real political intent. Those aren't mutually exclusive!

They are not mutually exclusive but invoking the chances of that is pure cope.

The final question I want to pose to you is , do you think all suicide bombers in the middle east are suicidal or do you think they are under a religious delusional?

It's both. The theory applies to everyone.