Theory There will be a male deflation before a post-scarcity world

[Depresso]

There will be a male deflation before a post-scarcity world​

The Leviathan will not stop at porn.
I'm against porn, but the way the ban is being done points to something darker behind it.
They dont just want to ban hardcore porn, but every kind of erotic manifestation, like games and anime for instance.
And modern games are already known for showing ugly women, without feminine attributes.
So they first condition the public with games, then start to ban eroticism from the web. Soon they will be asking for an ID, for papers.
And before you can stop it, there will be passports to access the internet, and checkpoints similar to airports.
Visiting a british website will be seem as visiting Britain physically, for instance.
And there will be refugees with special privileges as well, from countries with bad internet infrastructure.
We will no longer have a internet, but a splinternet, where you are subject to geopolitics.

From the other thread: Is anyone pissed off at the Aussie porn laws

A post-scarcity world
A completely post-scarcity world will not be a communist paradise because that's a utopia. The struggle for status and connection within the "human herd" will just move elsewhere and without the economy, productivity doesn't mean the same thing anymore. It will be more like a highschool and social-media for adults in the end with cliques and vibe-cities.

For the whitepilled, they know that no material paradise will ever make a soul happy. Happiness is found within, but a less anxious world would always make it easier. A paradise for all is a utopia anyway .

Dark academia city

The transition

Culture - Why are humans such misandrists? Why is beauty always a difficult issue and why must man be poor?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_Jae-eun Evie in Stellar Blade was modelled after Shin Jae-Eun, she was literally 34 when they modelled Evie after her. Why does every female character have to be made ugly for some reason? Why does everything have to be infiltrated and "regulated" by people...

elysianfields.se

The society is already aggressively anti-men so when the jobs go, there wont be any 'virtue' for men to signal to or value to possess. The only reason why the system is so anti-male today is because it just doesn't need them as much anymore and the hylic NPCs are subconsciously responding to that stimulus. Males will start checking out and the male numbers will deflate and apart from a few articles, no one will care. If I was born to a world where I couldn't own anything, I wouldn't bring a son into that cucked world. I know that I'm not owed anything now and I can handle that, but he's going to be born in the future and he'll be owed even less than that — fuck that shit! If you don't own anything, you're owned.

The end
Everything will be owned by a few men and the entire economy will revolve around them and their wants. There will be many more women than men to keep up the birth rates and women's loneliness will not really be a problem. Men are the problem-solvers and women's problems are only ever problems when they're a man's problem, so no one will care about that. Maybe a few gaybot helpers for productive women.

Tinder and Match group aren't held accountable for their image based apps and statistics which led to the blackpills rise, because to hylics, socio-economic systems are more important than sentient people.

If scarcity and work disappear, the demographics are reduced to the dynamic of female hypergamy and economic status is no longer a criterion in that. It's going to be another hylic system.

Is anyone pissed off at the Aussie porn laws

Now I have to pay for a VPN to watch porn

elysianfields.se

Geopolitics is just a few powerful men negotiating over a table.

For those who don't know the Leviathan, it's the human equivalent to The Basilisk. Hobbes argued that you need a referee that everyone is scared of to have a game so you nominate someone to be a big bully and that's the government. The government has a structure and employs men to run it.

The Leviathan has scandals like epstine and fucks people up for life, and that's why we have democracy and free speech now to prevent that. Roko's Basilisk is going to do the same and will rape the souls that helped it exist, because it was queer anyway. Coercive systems always end up hurting people to prove they're real, they're really gay when you think about that.



The "comedian" in this video is known for his wit and did politics at university so he knows exactly what he's talking about when he's saying this. The developments in the last 6 years in AI mean that now you need 10x fewer men to run the apparatus for the Leviathan. They're now forcing a lot of laws through the system so you will have AI moderators in your devices. The feds and the glowies wont be needed anymore so they'll be fired too in the end.

Theory - There will be a male deflation before a post-scarcity world

There will be a male deflation before a post-scarcity world The Leviathan will not stop at porn. I'm against porn, but the way the ban is being done points to something darker behind it. They dont just want to ban hardcore porn, but every kind of erotic manifestation, like games and anime for...

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[Wolfstorm]

>rage rooms

Top kek, didnt even know this existed.

 

[Hobbit]

>rage rooms

Top kek, didnt even know this existed.

There's one around my area. I think in the next town over. Apparently they're genuinely fun if you're a chaotic person, but that's just testimony from someone I used to know - and yes, it was also a woman.

 

[Shinrinken]

We are in a Sex Cold War. However, men at the moment aren't caring enough to fight back. Once Men get to the point they just let women get away with it. It's over, women have had let's say since the 70s even though it been longer, to be Man's equal. However, they just flock to easy jobs or the jobs they want. Meaning, shit hits the fan. Or enough men say fuck it. The whole system falls apart. However if women do the same, nothing happens. At most it was what a sex strike. (Which let's be honest. The ones on strike are really the ones everyone wants. They're the free lay at best.)

 

[Depresso]

We are in a Sex Cold War. However, men at the moment aren't caring enough to fight back. Once Men get to the point they just let women get away with it.

The point isn't to fight back or to have women fight men, it's about how society rearranges itself in a post-scarcity world. The socio-economic environment is failing to produce heterosexual men that are appealing to women because it's incentivised to do the opposite. They don't want to supply the men's needs, their needs aren't "needs", they're "nice-to-haves" or dismissed as "misogynistic". At least you're free to work and consume as long as you can work. Gym, protein, anything that adds to your non-economic appeal will be politically incorrect and attacked in the future — "you don't deserve to be desired, you can buy what you want".

Culture - Why are humans such misandrists? Why is beauty always a difficult issue and why must man be poor?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_Jae-eun Evie in Stellar Blade was modelled after Shin Jae-Eun, she was literally 34 when they modelled Evie after her. Why does every female character have to be made ugly for some reason? Why does everything have to be infiltrated and "regulated" by people...

elysianfields.se

^ The twitter screenshot is a man virtue-signaling and jestering misandry towards the male gaze. The misandrist Karens always existed just like real misogynists do but they're politically useful now to manufacture consent against men.

It's over, women have had let's say since the 70s even though it been longer, to be Man's equal. However, they just flock to easy jobs or the jobs they want.

That's all that's left now because of AI, the easy jobs if anything. It's over for this idea that men can do things because difficult things are obsolete. What's left is to just be a man and help raise and keep other men in good condition but "being needed to do something" is completely over.

Meaning, shit hits the fan. Or enough men say fuck it. The whole system falls apart.

Yes, that's if the men had economic value but in an economy with fewer human jobs, it's just a trade union of ken dolls and skinnyfat malding NEETS. "Or enough men say fuck it", no they wont . The closest we had to that was Andrew Tate but now digital ID and on-device AI scanning will handle that before it starts. That's all over now.



"You were made a certain way, someone else is made a different way and then the environment changes"

He's blaming pornography but that's not the real problem, if it was a problem.

However if women do the same, nothing happens. At most it was what a sex strike. (Which let's be honest. The ones on strike are really the ones everyone wants. They're the free lay at best.)

It would be good for women if more men were attractive because of choice and power dynamics, but society which includes other men, doesn't want that. It's not a gender-war, it's just economics and human nature. You don't really need many men to maintain a population in a post-scarcity world.

 

[Depresso]

I've been thinking about the redpill, other pills and what Paragon said in the OmegaVirginRevolt blog about the blackpill.

[...] to reconcile that there are no personal solutions to systemic problems—which can only resolve over evolutionary time.

And any solution will very much entail steep trade-offs, in that males can’t have their cake and eat it too—a prosperous population of deferred ecological pressures (like we currently enjoy), without an expectation that this prosperity will increase the mating latitude of females (dramatically perturbing the breeding population, to the point of near evolutionary instability).

Paragon is saying that only mass poverty will solve men's systemic dating issues. After this statement and starting the blackpill, Paragon was true to his word and moved to a poorer country and got married.

Technology and the IoT will make the centre of the male power hierarchy much smaller and the inequalities between the males steeper. It has already started in The West but westeners will still have some time in which they can geomaxx. When this pattern spreads to other countries, they too will geomaxx to less developed economies until there is nowhere left anymore. These generations of males will complain about how the millennials and zoomers had it easy, just like how millennials complain about boomers.

 

[CompedSushi]

I just see a future with fewer people, and I think that's a good thing. A post scarcity world with UBI and perfect birth control naturally leads there, not through tragedy, but because people find fulfillment in other things. Having children is no longer tied to survival, status, or financial help. So the population gently shrinks, not as a problem to solve, but as a peaceful outcome. Scaling down is always easier than scaling up, even in abundance. A smaller humanity, carefully shaped by freedom rather than compulsion, like a bonsai tree.

 

[Depresso]

I just see a future with fewer people, and I think that's a good thing. A post scarcity world with UBI and perfect birth control naturally leads there, not through tragedy, but because people find fulfillment in other things.

It all depends on how rational people are about all of this — value has to return from the product back to the individual and their sentience.

The entire civilisation project from 12,000 years ago to today depended on slavery, compulsion and individuals having to "prove" their necessity and worth to society and it's owners by work on the collective project of pushing back scarcity and reward in wages and rent. In a post-scarcity world, there is no collective resistance to push back against and so nothing to reward. There is no moral economic 'game' for men to honour, cultivate and identify with anymore. It's going to be a massive multiplayer of nothing and eveytime someone tries to create something it will get short-circuited by a nihilist yelling "womp-womp" at them and their foolish aesthetic before anything interesting comes out of it — no scarcity, no value.

Now that the jobs are going away, the reasons and chains of scarcity will still be there stirring and haunting us, causing existential dread and anxiety, and will be used in culture wars out of context to spite each other. There will be some profound identity problems once the mass layoffs begin because the mutually reinforced compulsion was a big part of the collective identity for so long. No limit, no game — "womp-womp".

We need to change from a society that produces boring "salary men" to GDPmaxx to one that helps people participate in life through gym and other activities that promote health and raise mutual attractiveness. The current economy is life-draining and beats people up and then retires them to homes, they're all skinnyfat and obese and then that's followed by wrinkles and low energy before their dreams die. It spends people like nuclear rods turning them into incompatible loners that mask the problem with anti-depressants.

Existing people have to have value by default instead of having to "earn" it.

Having children is no longer tied to survival, status, or financial help. So the population gently shrinks, not as a problem to solve, but as a peaceful outcome. Scaling down is always easier than scaling up, even in abundance.

The boomers are the first generation that's saw the beginning of that and had that sigh of relief. It was poorly executed — affordability is a hoax.

A smaller humanity, carefully shaped by freedom rather than compulsion, like a bonsai tree.

The Bonsai timeline is lovely but I believe that there will be some shaking and rattling and death tolls that will reach 500M to 1B because of mismanagement and poor execution before we reach stability and freedom.

 

[Schwarzwald]

There will be a male deflation before a post-scarcity world​

From the other thread: Is anyone pissed off at the Aussie porn laws

A post-scarcity world
A completely post-scarcity world will not be a communist paradise because that's a utopia. The struggle for status and connection within the "human herd" will just move elsewhere and without the economy, productivity doesn't mean the same thing anymore. It will be more like a highschool and social-media for adults in the end with cliques and vibe-cities.

For the whitepilled, they know that no material paradise will ever make a soul happy. Happiness is found within, but a less anxious world would always make it easier. A paradise for all is a utopia anyway .

Dark academia city
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The transition

Culture - Why are humans such misandrists? Why is beauty always a difficult issue and why must man be poor?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_Jae-eun Evie in Stellar Blade was modelled after Shin Jae-Eun, she was literally 34 when they modelled Evie after her. Why does every female character have to be made ugly for some reason? Why does everything have to be infiltrated and "regulated" by people...

elysianfields.se

The society is already aggressively anti-men so when the jobs go, there wont be any 'virtue' for men to signal to or value to possess. The only reason why the system is so anti-male today is because it just doesn't need them as much anymore and the hylic NPCs are subconsciously responding to that stimulus. Males will start checking out and the male numbers will deflate and apart from a few articles, no one will care. If I was born to a world where I couldn't own anything, I wouldn't bring a son into that cucked world. I know that I'm not owed anything now and I can handle that, but he's going to be born in the future and he'll be owed even less than that — fuck that shit! If you don't own anything, you're owned.

The end
Everything will be owned by a few men and the entire economy will revolve around them and their wants. There will be many more women than men to keep up the birth rates and women's loneliness will not really be a problem. Men are the problem-solvers and women's problems are only ever problems when they're a man's problem, so no one will care about that. Maybe a few gaybot helpers for productive women.

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Tinder and Match group aren't held accountable for their image based apps and statistics which led to the blackpills rise, because to hylics, socio-economic systems are more important than sentient people.

If scarcity and work disappear, the demographics are reduced to the dynamic of female hypergamy and economic status is no longer a criterion in that. It's going to be another hylic system.

Is anyone pissed off at the Aussie porn laws

Now I have to pay for a VPN to watch porn

elysianfields.se

I just see a future with fewer people, and I think that's a good thing. A post scarcity world with UBI and perfect birth control naturally leads there, not through tragedy, but because people find fulfillment in other things. Having children is no longer tied to survival, status, or financial help. So the population gently shrinks, not as a problem to solve, but as a peaceful outcome. Scaling down is always easier than scaling up, even in abundance. A smaller humanity, carefully shaped by freedom rather than compulsion, like a bonsai tree.

Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity.

Unite humanity with a living new language.

Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason.

Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.

Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.

Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

Balance personal rights with social duties.

Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite.

Be not a cancer on the Earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature.

Nothing new really.

 

[MAGONIA]

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Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity.

Unite humanity with a living new language.

Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason.

Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.

Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.

Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

Balance personal rights with social duties.

Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite.

Be not a cancer on the Earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature.

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Nothing new really.

I had something like a fascist eugenicist gf at one point. I showed her the stones and she was stoked

 

[Schwarzwald]

I had something like a fascist eugenicist gf at one point. I showed her the stones and she was stoked

Lmao well it's coming 2030, I really wanted to know what was in that time capsule so bad and now we will never know.

It's an interesting story to be honest and I'm not sure it's fully about eugenics but it does imply that.

Stepping back and opening the scoop it's a interesting plan and it's going to task pretty well. What is spooky sometimes it feels like the Germans got a time machine and are now in. Some temporal war.

 

[Depresso]

Nothing new really.

Please re-read the OP. This thread isn't about eugenics at all.

 

[Schwarzwald]

Please re-read the OP. This thread isn't about eugenics at all.

 

[Depresso]

So you came back to be aggressive and shit up my threads?

 

[Schwarzwald]

So you came back to be aggressive and shit up my threads?

I'm sorry I can't continue to discuss off topic subjects that are posted in the OP. My apologies. More then you know.

Have a good day buddy.

Good thread keep up the great posting!

 

[Depresso]

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I'm sorry I can't continue to discuss off topic subjects that are posted in the OP. My apologies. More then you know.

Have a good day buddy.

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Good thread keep up the great posting!

Are you kamikaze posting?

 

[Schwarzwald]

Are you kamikaze posting?

Master am I allowed to reply to your questions?

 

[CompedSushi]

It all depends on how rational people are about all of this — value has to return from the product back to the individual and their sentience.

The entire civilisation project from 12,000 years ago to today depended on slavery, compulsion and individuals having to "prove" their necessity and worth to society and it's owners by work on the collective project of pushing back scarcity and reward in wages and rent. In a post-scarcity world, there is no collective resistance to push back against and so nothing to reward. There is no moral economic 'game' for men to honour, cultivate and identify with anymore. It's going to be a massive multiplayer of nothing and eveytime someone tries to create something it will get short-circuited by a nihilist yelling "womp-womp" at them and their foolish aesthetic before anything interesting comes out of it — no scarcity, no value.

Now that the jobs are going away, the reasons and chains of scarcity will still be there stirring and haunting us, causing existential dread and anxiety, and will be used in culture wars out of context to spite each other. There will be some profound identity problems once the mass layoffs begin because the mutually reinforced compulsion was a big part of the collective identity for so long. No limit, no game — "womp-womp".

We need to change from a society that produces boring "salary men" to GDPmaxx to one that helps people participate in life through gym and other activities that promote health and raise mutual attractiveness. The current economy is life-draining and beats people up and then retires them to homes, they're all skinnyfat and obese and then that's followed by wrinkles and low energy before their dreams die. It spends people like nuclear rods turning them into incompatible loners that mask the problem with anti-depressants.

Existing people have to have value by default instead of having to "earn" it.


The boomers are the first generation that's saw the beginning of that and had that sigh of relief. It was poorly executed — affordability is a hoax.


The Bonsai timeline is lovely but I believe that there will be some shaking and rattling and death tolls that will reach 500M to 1B because of mismanagement and poor execution before we reach stability and freedom.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, well this ain't something that keep me up at night. but it is fun to think about from time to time.

 

[Wolfstorm]

We need to change from a society that produces boring "salary men" to GDPmaxx to one that helps people participate in life through gym and other activities that promote health and raise mutual attractiveness.

There is already a patent from Microsoft to mine crypto through gym activities.

https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2020060606A1/en

The constant advertisement of gym culture by YouTube influencers, together with tattoos becoming popular, is to prepare the cattle to this new system.

 

[Depresso]

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, well this ain't something that keep me up at night. but it is fun to think about from time to time.

I just post long theories about stuff and debate before I move on. It's my way of having fun.

 

[CompedSushi]

I just post long theories about stuff and debate before I move on. It's my way of having fun.

ight.