Depression Why did he leave me

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Told ya being male sucks lol

It mainly sucks in the Western sphere because these guys are morons and somehow managed to fall from being privileged men to stupid beta males XDDD

Being a man here in Egypt is veeery nice. You get to beat your women and nobody cares

 

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Not that I endorse domestic abuse...

 

[GripMaxxing]

Being a man here in Egypt is veeery nice.

Are you a descendant of pharaohs

 

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Are you a descendant of pharaohs

Who knows? While I am Egyptian, I never got a DNA test or did some kind of ancestry/lineage exploration.

I am probably 80% subhuman Arab blood anyway.

I could've been worshiping badass Ra but I worship Allah instead.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE FFS

 

[somethingtobelievein]

What does this even mean? Feels like you are not making a point here. "Denying gender". The whole point of this is to attempt to find out if the person has gender dysphoria or not (through therapy), and THEN attempt to treat it OR redirect to another therapist if the problem is something else. There is no denial of gender here, because if they denied gender, then what are they even discussing here? Are we even talking about the same thing?

Denying gender = 'I am a man, but could we make me not be one?' No, you can't. Got a 'Y'? You're a guy.

Okay, let's address this unfortunately high number of suicidal ideation in trans folks.
Suicidal ideation, in research, is a more critical construct for its predictive power for suicidal attempts.

It is also unfortunately the case that research on suicide risk among trans folks is meager as one brief literature review article comments:

Source: Suicide Risk Among Transgender People: A Prevalent Problem in Critical Need of Empirical and Theoretical Research

However, there is still research. One research study shows an interesting finding:

Source: Predictors of Suicidal Ideation in a Statewide Sample of Transgender Individuals

The same study proposes this explanation:


Also, to credit @GripMaxxing, the study DOES affirm there are higher SI in FtM individuals than MtF:


The statistics is in the paper, by the way. The statistics is presented in a table so I didn't bother copying it here since it would take too much space.

I would get into the discussion and the theoretical perspectives that the literature review article provided but I feel this is getting too lengthy and I am afraid I am putting too much effort for someone that, at least in my opinion, does not show much enthusiasm in actually engaging with this. So instead, I will dump this part because it addresses something you said earlier:


But the brief literature review article says:

This is in the "Correlates of suicide ideation".
Now, "potentially" does some lifting there, I admit, but you can now see why people not being "themselves" is not enough. It's not JUST the confirmation, but also the discrimination and violence they experience as a result of transitioning. The statement above shows that "gender identity acceptance and disclosure" is a potentially protective factor against suicidal ideation, and THAT makes sense.

Edit: forget to add a little tidbit addressing another point you made

I mean yeah I agree that accepting your gender is better. Since there is no accepted reason to explain why people with gender dysphoria want to kill themselves, my proposal is that in seeking to solve their mental health issues, they attempt to change their gender, which cannot be done.

I would honestly be happy to hear if GripMaxxing overcomes all mental health issues and finds true fulfillment through trying to change his hormones and make himself something woman-like. I personally think it's a lower chance of success path, but it's not my life at the end of the day.

Also, to credit @GripMaxxing, the study DOES affirm there are higher SI in FtM individuals than MtF:

That's what I found too, straight from the oft-quoted 41% study. But both are still really high.

 

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Denying gender = 'I am a man, but could we make me not be one?' No, you can't. Got a 'Y'? You're a guy.

Your framing is so weird. You seem to put a LOT of emphasis on "make me NOT one". Wouldn't it be more like, "I am being perceived as a man, but I want to be perceived as a woman because I identify as one"?

I mean yeah I agree that accepting your gender is better. Since there is no accepted reason to explain why people with gender dysphoria want to kill themselves, my proposal is that in seeking to solve their mental health issues, they attempt to change their gender, which cannot be done.

Wait, let me just clarify: do you think trans women believe they are cis women? Or, do you think trans women believe they can become cis women with current technology?

Edit: modified a question for clarification

 

[somethingtobelievein]

Your framing is so weird. You seem to put a LOT of emphasis on "make me NOT one". Wouldn't it be more like, "I am being perceived as a man, but I want to be perceived as a woman because I identify as one"?

I'm trying not to get into 4-chan level memes about 'identity' here, but I do think that is the disconnect.

I see identifying as something you are not as inherently unhealthy for the psyche. It takes extra effort on the ego to maintain facades like that which are not based in reality. Not just gender stuff. Another example would be a superiority complex: the person identifies as some excellent version of themselves not grounded in reality, and when this persona is challenged it leads to outward and inward hostility.

Wait, let me just clarify: do you think trans women believe they are cis women? Or, do you think trans women believe they can become cis women with current technology?

Edit: modified a question for clarification

Well, the thing you just said to me: "I want to be perceived as a woman because I identify as one," portrays it as the former. At least, that they "identify" as women, which would have to be a 'cis woman' because that's the only existing type of 'woman' out there (0 Y chromosomes.)

I don't think any of them believe they are or can become cis women, and that is a large part of their mental struggles. I think that they attempt to accept the belief that there is no difference, or merely a negligible difference, between a cis woman and trans woman, but that belief cannot take hold because they know it isn't true.