Religion Sky daddy! Why or why not and the greater implications about reality and the afterlife!!!

[Ishmael]

I think god is nature itself.. force of nature the intelligent amalgamation of earth wind fire and air… what are the signs ?

What do you mean by "what are the signs"?

 

[Ishmael]

From what I've been shown, after you die you are waiting for whenever Christ returns.

If you die in Christ, you are added to the Stone cut without hands. If not, you are simply waiting for your judgment. There's a concept that is thrown around and to a degree is supported by the NT of Jesus descending into 'Hell' and saving people, in one instance showing Peter what happens to people in Hell, locking up Satan might be one? Anyways.

Ephesians 4:8–10: Because of this it is said: “He ascended to the Heights, and brought captivity captive, and He has given gifts to the children of men." Now what does this mean, “He ascended”, but also that He first descended into the lower parts of the earth? He who descended is the same as He who ascended higher than all the heavens, to restore all things."

I've been shown that Christ did do this, in a way. After He was resurrected at some point He also retroactively cleared and made it possible for any person who had died previously to be under potential Salvation. Whether they were given a choice, in a 'Hell' or something, I don't know exactly. Hell is not a place that you are tormented in, nor does it exist as that concept in any shape because a God of Love would not torture His creations more than the horrors that the natural cycle already permits. All I know is that there was a 'ripple' on the timeline when He was resurrected. It ripples both ways. I'm working on a visual for that so you can understand it better.

 

[Autistic_tendencies2]

From what I've been shown, after you die you are waiting for whenever Christ returns.

If you die in Christ, you are added to the Stone cut without hands. If not, you are simply waiting for your judgment. There's a concept that is thrown around and to a degree is supported by the NT of Jesus descending into 'Hell' and saving people, in one instance showing Peter what happens to people in Hell, locking up Satan might be one? Anyways.

Ephesians 4:8–10: Because of this it is said: “He ascended to the Heights, and brought captivity captive, and He has given gifts to the children of men." Now what does this mean, “He ascended”, but also that He first descended into the lower parts of the earth? He who descended is the same as He who ascended higher than all the heavens, to restore all things."

I've been shown that Christ did do this, in a way. After He was resurrected at some point He also retroactively cleared and made it possible for any person who had died previously to be under potential Salvation. Whether they were given a choice, in a 'Hell' or something, I don't know exactly. Hell is not a place that you are tormented in, nor does it exist as that concept in any shape because a God of Love would not torture His creations more than the horrors that the natural cycle already permits. All I know is that there was a 'ripple' on the timeline when He was resurrected. It ripples both ways. I'm working on a visual for that so you can understand it better.

What are the signs god is paying attention to you from your previous post

I saw a scary video once of a Jesus descending to heaven showing how all the souls are being tortured in hell

 

[Schwarzwald]

What are the signs god is paying attention to you from your previous post

I saw a scary video once of a Jesus descending to heaven showing how all the souls are being tortured in hell

You talking about the Korean woman?

 

[Autistic_tendencies2]

You talking about the Korean woman?

Yeah that one I think, he shows her hell, I may have seen it on here

 

[newsincerity]

From what I've been shown, after you die you are waiting for whenever Christ returns.

If you die in Christ, you are added to the Stone cut without hands.

How do you understand it?

I've been shown that Christ did do this, in a way. After He was resurrected at some point He also retroactively cleared and made it possible for any person who had died previously to be under potential Salvation. Whether they were given a choice, in a 'Hell' or something, I don't know exactly.

Source made it so that souls kept in spaces of negative beings would be reincarnated. This is the chance for salvation. In their spaces they couldn't free themselves and Satan's plan was to keep them in eternal sleep with nightmares and harvest 100% of their energy.

Hell is not a place that you are tormented in, nor does it exist as that concept in any shape because a God of Love would not torture His creations more than the horrors that the natural cycle already permits.

God didn't create hell or demons but they do exist.

 

[Schwarzwald]

Yeah that one I think, he shows her hell, I may have seen it on here

Yeah I remember that one and I think she even did paintings. I don't want to out right dismiss it to be fair. But why doesn't God then give more divine revolation about hell?

To really compound the bizarre nature of these types of events, what do you make of people with schizophrenia having such similar "delusions"? I find that one is also very unsettling to think about.

That being said I think have even spoke about this with you months ago and I personally landed on the fact that she's wasn't fully reliable as a narrator.

I have two friends with schizophrenia, one I grew up with in vegas and he is extremely religious and I visited 2 years ago with him. By his account he not only are in a spiritual 247 battle, which checks out, but that that the Bible is so little of the whole story it's crazy.

I don't think you answered a question I asked in the rabbi thread but what did you make of the fact that the old testament is the Torah, exactly five books out of the 39 to 46 books found in the Old Testament. This makes Christian just as versed in the Torah as any Jewish person. Not that the Torah is all they learn but yeah.

And what do you make that the Jews believe that the goy only have to follow the Noahide Laws to be good.

The Seven Laws

No Idols: Do not worship false gods or idols.

No Cursing: Do not curse God or use blasphemy.

No Murder: Do not kill other human beings.

No Forbidden Sex: Avoid forbidden sexual acts and adultery.

No Stealing: Do not steal or rob.

No Cruelty to Animals: Do not eat flesh torn from a live animal.

Fair Courts: Set up a just legal system and courts of law.

While a Jew has to follow 613 commandments?

The Jewish look of things is they are gods chosen people and need to be the ruler of the planet and held to a higher standard?

 

[Schwarzwald]

How do you understand it?

Source made it so that souls kept in spaces of negative beings would be reincarnated. This is the chance for salvation. In their spaces they couldn't free themselves and Satan's plan was to keep them in eternal sleep with nightmares and harvest 100% of their energy.

God didn't create hell or demons but they do exist.

I'm only going to push back evvvvver so slightly on one point, so in your cannon, the creator didn't make everything? Then who created the demons or hell?

Typical cannon says all demons are fallen angels.

 

[newsincerity]

I'm only going to push back evvvvver so slightly on one point, so in your cannon, the creator didn't make everything? Then who created the demons or hell?

Typical cannon says all demons are fallen angels.

Source is high vibration. It created things that are beautiful exciting good. It created us. Some of us are down here now, some are angels of the Source like Jesus and some turned away from Source like Lucifer who owns this place for now and rules over his hierarchy.
Source only creates pure positive energy, its creation can choose to make it negative by focusing on negative emotions. They can turn evil and create demons and hells.

 

[Schwarzwald]

Source is high vibration. It created things that are beautiful exciting good. It created us. Some of us are down here now, some are angels of the Source like Jesus and some turned away from Source like Lucifer who owns this place for now and rules over his hierarchy.
Source only creates pure positive energy, its creation can choose to make it negative by focusing on negative emotions. They can turn evil and create demons and hells.

Seems a bit contradictory.