Religion Sky daddy! Why or why not and the greater implications about reality and the afterlife!!!

[Ishmael]

I think god is nature itself.. force of nature the intelligent amalgamation of earth wind fire and air… what are the signs ?

What do you mean by "what are the signs"?

 

[Ishmael]

From what I've been shown, after you die you are waiting for whenever Christ returns.

If you die in Christ, you are added to the Stone cut without hands. If not, you are simply waiting for your judgment. There's a concept that is thrown around and to a degree is supported by the NT of Jesus descending into 'Hell' and saving people, in one instance showing Peter what happens to people in Hell, locking up Satan might be one? Anyways.

Ephesians 4:8–10: Because of this it is said: “He ascended to the Heights, and brought captivity captive, and He has given gifts to the children of men." Now what does this mean, “He ascended”, but also that He first descended into the lower parts of the earth? He who descended is the same as He who ascended higher than all the heavens, to restore all things."

I've been shown that Christ did do this, in a way. After He was resurrected at some point He also retroactively cleared and made it possible for any person who had died previously to be under potential Salvation. Whether they were given a choice, in a 'Hell' or something, I don't know exactly. Hell is not a place that you are tormented in, nor does it exist as that concept in any shape because a God of Love would not torture His creations more than the horrors that the natural cycle already permits. All I know is that there was a 'ripple' on the timeline when He was resurrected. It ripples both ways. I'm working on a visual for that so you can understand it better.

 

[Autistic_tendencies2]

From what I've been shown, after you die you are waiting for whenever Christ returns.

If you die in Christ, you are added to the Stone cut without hands. If not, you are simply waiting for your judgment. There's a concept that is thrown around and to a degree is supported by the NT of Jesus descending into 'Hell' and saving people, in one instance showing Peter what happens to people in Hell, locking up Satan might be one? Anyways.

Ephesians 4:8–10: Because of this it is said: “He ascended to the Heights, and brought captivity captive, and He has given gifts to the children of men." Now what does this mean, “He ascended”, but also that He first descended into the lower parts of the earth? He who descended is the same as He who ascended higher than all the heavens, to restore all things."

I've been shown that Christ did do this, in a way. After He was resurrected at some point He also retroactively cleared and made it possible for any person who had died previously to be under potential Salvation. Whether they were given a choice, in a 'Hell' or something, I don't know exactly. Hell is not a place that you are tormented in, nor does it exist as that concept in any shape because a God of Love would not torture His creations more than the horrors that the natural cycle already permits. All I know is that there was a 'ripple' on the timeline when He was resurrected. It ripples both ways. I'm working on a visual for that so you can understand it better.

What are the signs god is paying attention to you from your previous post

I saw a scary video once of a Jesus descending to heaven showing how all the souls are being tortured in hell

 

[Schwarzwald]

What are the signs god is paying attention to you from your previous post

I saw a scary video once of a Jesus descending to heaven showing how all the souls are being tortured in hell

You talking about the Korean woman?

 

[Autistic_tendencies2]

You talking about the Korean woman?

Yeah that one I think, he shows her hell, I may have seen it on here

 

[newsincerity]

From what I've been shown, after you die you are waiting for whenever Christ returns.

If you die in Christ, you are added to the Stone cut without hands.

How do you understand it?

I've been shown that Christ did do this, in a way. After He was resurrected at some point He also retroactively cleared and made it possible for any person who had died previously to be under potential Salvation. Whether they were given a choice, in a 'Hell' or something, I don't know exactly.

Source made it so that souls kept in spaces of negative beings would be reincarnated. This is the chance for salvation. In their spaces they couldn't free themselves and Satan's plan was to keep them in eternal sleep with nightmares and harvest 100% of their energy.

Hell is not a place that you are tormented in, nor does it exist as that concept in any shape because a God of Love would not torture His creations more than the horrors that the natural cycle already permits.

God didn't create hell or demons but they do exist.

 

[Schwarzwald]

Yeah that one I think, he shows her hell, I may have seen it on here

Yeah I remember that one and I think she even did paintings. I don't want to out right dismiss it to be fair. But why doesn't God then give more divine revolation about hell?

To really compound the bizarre nature of these types of events, what do you make of people with schizophrenia having such similar "delusions"? I find that one is also very unsettling to think about.

That being said I think have even spoke about this with you months ago and I personally landed on the fact that she's wasn't fully reliable as a narrator.

I have two friends with schizophrenia, one I grew up with in vegas and he is extremely religious and I visited 2 years ago with him. By his account he not only are in a spiritual 247 battle, which checks out, but that that the Bible is so little of the whole story it's crazy.

I don't think you answered a question I asked in the rabbi thread but what did you make of the fact that the old testament is the Torah, exactly five books out of the 39 to 46 books found in the Old Testament. This makes Christian just as versed in the Torah as any Jewish person. Not that the Torah is all they learn but yeah.

And what do you make that the Jews believe that the goy only have to follow the Noahide Laws to be good.

The Seven Laws

No Idols: Do not worship false gods or idols.

No Cursing: Do not curse God or use blasphemy.

No Murder: Do not kill other human beings.

No Forbidden Sex: Avoid forbidden sexual acts and adultery.

No Stealing: Do not steal or rob.

No Cruelty to Animals: Do not eat flesh torn from a live animal.

Fair Courts: Set up a just legal system and courts of law.

While a Jew has to follow 613 commandments?

The Jewish look of things is they are gods chosen people and need to be the ruler of the planet and held to a higher standard?

 

[Schwarzwald]

How do you understand it?

Source made it so that souls kept in spaces of negative beings would be reincarnated. This is the chance for salvation. In their spaces they couldn't free themselves and Satan's plan was to keep them in eternal sleep with nightmares and harvest 100% of their energy.

God didn't create hell or demons but they do exist.

I'm only going to push back evvvvver so slightly on one point, so in your cannon, the creator didn't make everything? Then who created the demons or hell?

Typical cannon says all demons are fallen angels.

 

[newsincerity]

I'm only going to push back evvvvver so slightly on one point, so in your cannon, the creator didn't make everything? Then who created the demons or hell?

Typical cannon says all demons are fallen angels.

Source is high vibration. It created things that are beautiful exciting good. It created us. Some of us are down here now, some are angels of the Source like Jesus and some turned away from Source like Lucifer who owns this place for now and rules over his hierarchy.
Source only creates pure positive energy, its creation can choose to make it negative by focusing on negative emotions. They can turn evil and create demons and hells.

 

[Schwarzwald]

Source is high vibration. It created things that are beautiful exciting good. It created us. Some of us are down here now, some are angels of the Source like Jesus and some turned away from Source like Lucifer who owns this place for now and rules over his hierarchy.
Source only creates pure positive energy, its creation can choose to make it negative by focusing on negative emotions. They can turn evil and create demons and hells.

Seems a bit contradictory.

 

[Ishmael]

What are the signs god is paying attention to you from your previous post

I saw a scary video once of a Jesus descending to heaven showing how all the souls are being tortured in hell

Sorry, I guess I am retarded lol.

One of them is that topics that I have come across on a whim and exhausted them as much as possible and then not long after the topic entered the relative mainstream. I am then presented with an opportunity to test not only my own knowledge, but compare to the person on the other end but also see if they got the same things from it that I did. There have been a few times where pretty much instantly I can write off someone's opinion; such as the relatively popular Catholic Exorcist who was doing podcast runs a while back named Chad Ripperger. I was listening to his interview with Tucker Carlson I believe and humored his knowledge on what he was talking about. He doesn't seem to know where his information comes from; he takes what the Catholic church developed at face value and the truth, caring little for the history behind it. I had JUST been shown the Evagrius book I mentioned in another thread where the 7 Deadly Sins from Catholicism were lifted from and converted over from a 'subtype' of entity to a pure mental problem. The reformatting of the issue changed it from something you needed Jesus to help you overcome became something you worked through on your own and avoided with willpower.

Another was the Shroud of Turin. I had dug deep into it and exhausted every single thing I could about the facts and disputes about the cloth itself only to be met with what to me is clear evidence that points to it being the burial and resurrection cloth of Christ. Every topic I go into I try very hard to play both sides and scrutinize the works I'm looking into. There's simply no way to reproduce that image.

I suppose the easiest way to put it would be that the paths I go down feel like I am being led down them rather than simply wandering around. I have done that a lot and I know what wandering around feels like. I was wandering around for about the past month or so but am being brought to new topics once again.

How do you understand it?

The Stone cut without hands concept is from Revelation and it's essentially the formation of the 'mountain' that will fill the earth, the might of God, comprised of the bodies/sacrifices of all those that were oriented towards God. It's sort of a tipping point. The fulfillment of that Stone will coincide with the End Times, whenever that is. When you die, you become material in some sense. What is done with you is dependent on factors such as your life, submission to God, active removal and avoidance of sin/contributing to sin. Intent of life.

Being in Christ guarantees your salvation rather than a game of chance based on your good deeds and actions.

 

[newsincerity]

Another was the Shroud of Turin. I had dug deep into it and exhausted every single thing I could about the facts and disputes about the cloth itself only to be met with what to me is clear evidence that points to it being the burial and resurrection cloth of Christ. Every topic I go into I try very hard to play both sides and scrutinize the works I'm looking into. There's simply no way to reproduce that image.

The person on the shroud isn't Jesus. Jesus was more attractive than this guy. He had a square jaw and blue eyes and was standing out a lot.

 

[Schwarzwald]

The person on the shroud isn't Jesus. Jesus was more attractive than this guy. He had a square jaw and blue eyes and was standing out a lot.

Facts he was a known stander.

Lesser known fact he was the first stand user.

 

[Autistic_tendencies2]

Yeah I remember that one and I think she even did paintings. I don't want to out right dismiss it to be fair. But why doesn't God then give more divine revolation about hell?

To really compound the bizarre nature of these types of events, what do you make of people with schizophrenia having such similar "delusions"? I find that one is also very unsettling to think about.

That being said I think have even spoke about this with you months ago and I personally landed on the fact that she's wasn't fully reliable as a narrator.

I have two friends with schizophrenia, one I grew up with in vegas and he is extremely religious and I visited 2 years ago with him. By his account he not only are in a spiritual 247 battle, which checks out, but that that the Bible is so little of the whole story it's crazy.

I don't think you answered a question I asked in the rabbi thread but what did you make of the fact that the old testament is the Torah, exactly five books out of the 39 to 46 books found in the Old Testament. This makes Christian just as versed in the Torah as any Jewish person. Not that the Torah is all they learn but yeah.

And what do you make that the Jews believe that the goy only have to follow the Noahide Laws to be good.

The Seven Laws

No Idols: Do not worship false gods or idols.

No Cursing: Do not curse God or use blasphemy.

No Murder: Do not kill other human beings.

No Forbidden Sex: Avoid forbidden sexual acts and adultery.

No Stealing: Do not steal or rob.

No Cruelty to Animals: Do not eat flesh torn from a live animal.

Fair Courts: Set up a just legal system and courts of law.

While a Jew has to follow 613 commandments?

The Jewish look of things is they are gods chosen people and need to be the ruler of the planet and held to a higher standard?

Yeah I don’t know schizophrenics I talked with someone are prized for the elite they feed off their energy and they can see things normal people can’t see,

Other people in history have experienced journeys to hell though like Dante supposedly his story matches the belief of three levels of the underworld of the Hindus

Then a story of an apostle who died and came back to life to tell of his journey to hell

The Jews also have a story how a man was guided by a fish or something to the 7 levels of hell

I read the writers of the Bible had access to knowledge from a previous civilization which got destroyed in a cataclysm this book called the story of Adam and Eve by chan Thomas

 

[Autistic_tendencies2]

Yeah I remember that one and I think she even did paintings. I don't want to out right dismiss it to be fair. But why doesn't God then give more divine revolation about hell?

To really compound the bizarre nature of these types of events, what do you make of people with schizophrenia having such similar "delusions"? I find that one is also very unsettling to think about.

That being said I think have even spoke about this with you months ago and I personally landed on the fact that she's wasn't fully reliable as a narrator.

I have two friends with schizophrenia, one I grew up with in vegas and he is extremely religious and I visited 2 years ago with him. By his account he not only are in a spiritual 247 battle, which checks out, but that that the Bible is so little of the whole story it's crazy.

I don't think you answered a question I asked in the rabbi thread but what did you make of the fact that the old testament is the Torah, exactly five books out of the 39 to 46 books found in the Old Testament. This makes Christian just as versed in the Torah as any Jewish person. Not that the Torah is all they learn but yeah.

And what do you make that the Jews believe that the goy only have to follow the Noahide Laws to be good.

The Seven Laws

No Idols: Do not worship false gods or idols.

No Cursing: Do not curse God or use blasphemy.

No Murder: Do not kill other human beings.

No Forbidden Sex: Avoid forbidden sexual acts and adultery.

No Stealing: Do not steal or rob.

No Cruelty to Animals: Do not eat flesh torn from a live animal.

Fair Courts: Set up a just legal system and courts of law.

While a Jew has to follow 613 commandments?

The Jewish look of things is they are gods chosen people and need to be the ruler of the planet and held to a higher standard?

I’m confused don’t Christian’s follow the New Testament mainly ? I guess everyone can learn Torah it’s available to everyone you can always convert to Judaism

Torah is probably a stepping stone to Kabbalah though Torah be over 40 and you can learn Kabbalah

Noahide laws seem easy enough probably except giving up meat totally would be the hardest for
Goy and me lol
Goy love idols too so not sure haha

Yeah from the rabbis they say Jews have a greater reward for follow the 613 commandments but also a greater punishment not as severe as non Jews , I mean supposedly Christians and muslims agree they are the chosen people so what can you do the Torah says Jews will be at the top of all nations they are following gods divine instructions I guess
What do you think about the chosen people stuff ?
I used to think Jews viewed non Jews as cattle basically but they still have to respect and not steal from non Jews , just the interest they can do etc

However they do view non Jews as spiritually dirty that’s why they don’t associate with them

 

[Schwarzwald]

Yeah I don’t know schizophrenics I talked with someone are prized for the elite they feed off their energy and they can see things normal people can’t see,

Other people in history have experienced journeys to hell though like Dante supposedly his story matches the belief of three levels of the underworld of the Hindus

Then a story of an apostle who died and came back to life to tell of his journey to hell

The Jews also have a story how a man was guided by a fish or something to the 7 levels of hell

I read the writers of the Bible had access to knowledge from a previous civilization which got destroyed in a cataclysm this book called the story of Adam and Eve by chan Thomas

I not saying they are an authority on anything what I'm saying is a commonalities between them even if they are from different societies.

Hmmm

I don't want to be confrontation but dante's Inferno is a work of fiction, I read it in highschool school. It's like saying paridise lost is based on reality.

Those are great books!!! But not "factual" to spirituality.

In terms of the writers of the Bible had x knowledge of the past can be argued but it's not what's said.

The Bible has many rhyming parts to historical past such as a great flood but we have to be more particular when we pick out that kind of stuff. I'm not 100% where you are going because the begining of your statement was sorta false on its face :/

I'm not looking for conflict I'm just trying to lay these twisted snakes straight ya know?

 

[Autistic_tendencies2]

Sorry, I guess I am retarded lol.

One of them is that topics that I have come across on a whim and exhausted them as much as possible and then not long after the topic entered the relative mainstream. I am then presented with an opportunity to test not only my own knowledge, but compare to the person on the other end but also see if they got the same things from it that I did. There have been a few times where pretty much instantly I can write off someone's opinion; such as the relatively popular Catholic Exorcist who was doing podcast runs a while back named Chad Ripperger. I was listening to his interview with Tucker Carlson I believe and humored his knowledge on what he was talking about. He doesn't seem to know where his information comes from; he takes what the Catholic church developed at face value and the truth, caring little for the history behind it. I had JUST been shown the Evagrius book I mentioned in another thread where the 7 Deadly Sins from Catholicism were lifted from and converted over from a 'subtype' of entity to a pure mental problem. The reformatting of the issue changed it from something you needed Jesus to help you overcome became something you worked through on your own and avoided with willpower.

Another was the Shroud of Turin. I had dug deep into it and exhausted every single thing I could about the facts and disputes about the cloth itself only to be met with what to me is clear evidence that points to it being the burial and resurrection cloth of Christ. Every topic I go into I try very hard to play both sides and scrutinize the works I'm looking into. There's simply no way to reproduce that image.

I suppose the easiest way to put it would be that the paths I go down feel like I am being led down them rather than simply wandering around. I have done that a lot and I know what wandering around feels like. I was wandering around for about the past month or so but am being brought to new topics once again.

The Stone cut without hands concept is from Revelation and it's essentially the formation of the 'mountain' that will fill the earth, the might of God, comprised of the bodies/sacrifices of all those that were oriented towards God. It's sort of a tipping point. The fulfillment of that Stone will coincide with the End Times, whenever that is. When you die, you become material in some sense. What is done with you is dependent on factors such as your life, submission to God, active removal and avoidance of sin/contributing to sin. Intent of life.

Being in Christ guarantees your salvation rather than a game of chance based on your good deeds and actions.

Yeah supposedly the secret societies are guarding the relics of Jesus not surprised

 

[Autistic_tendencies2]

I not saying they are an authority on anything what I'm saying is a commonalities between them even if they are from different societies.

Hmmm

I don't want to be confrontation but dante's Inferno is a work of fiction, I read it in highschool school. It's like saying paridise lost is based on reality.

Those are great books!!! But not "factual" to spirituality.

In terms of the writers of the Bible had x knowledge of the past can be argued but it's not what's said.

The Bible has many rhyming parts to historical past such as a great flood but we have to be more particular when we pick out that kind of stuff. I'm not 100% where you are going because the begining of your statement was sorta false on its face :/

I'm not looking for conflict I'm just trying to lay these twisted snakes straight ya know?

What do you think is false ?

And who knows my point is there’s numerous figures that have been written about who went to hell and came back to tell about it Across multiple cultures

But what if Dante had a vision or something ? I wouldn’t discount the ideas
Check out esoterism of Dante by rene guenon

Who knows though maybe it’s all fear mongering , I think hell could be a state of consciousness … if you harbour any resentment
in your heart is not good . My other theory is also be a never ending loop of the same events forever

 

[Schwarzwald]

I’m confused don’t Christian’s follow the New Testament mainly ? I guess everyone can learn Torah it’s available to everyone you can always convert to Judaism

Torah is probably a stepping stone to Kabbalah though Torah be over 40 and you can learn Kabbalah

Noahide laws seem easy enough probably except giving up meat totally would be the hardest for
Goy and me lol
Goy love idols too so not sure haha

Yeah from the rabbis they say Jews have a greater reward for follow the 613 commandments but also a greater punishment not as severe as non Jews , I mean supposedly Christians and muslims agree they are the chosen people so what can you do the Torah says Jews will be at the top of all nations they are following gods divine instructions I guess
What do you think about the chosen people stuff ?
I used to think Jews viewed non Jews as cattle basically but they still have to respect and not steal from non Jews , just the interest they can do etc

However they do view non Jews as spiritually dirty that’s why they don’t associate with them

This is incorrect and Jesus only taught the "old testament"

From a personal experience, I go to church on Sundays and Bible studies on Thursday, the old testament is the beginning of the Bible my guy and we read and reference it constantly.

What Jesus did was complete that covenant.

And that should be understood, how can you walk in jesuses shadow without knowing what came before him and what he taught, aka the Torah.

This is why a lot of real Nazi are actually anti Christian and satanic in the end.

I might be a bit to loose and prone to making joking so @Ishmael would probably cover this better then I will because I tend to only phone post and 2% of my post of on a PC where I can sit and type out an actual long form reply and I want your answer to be properly addressed.

He was Jewish and infact quoted the Torah verbatim and it was one of the most impressive basic abilities he had done beyond the miracles.

Don't take this wrong but don't you think reading the Bible as it is the source you seem to want to be a part of would be critical to an understanding?

Yes the Noahide laws are simple it's vary interesting part of the aberhamic faith works isn't it?

So what I found so funny about your rabbis are cool and based thread made me kinda chuckle and why I said convert. In both regards you are always better off not being Jewish unless you wanted that weight and responsibility.

600 rules is a lot.

I am going to have to be very clear! Believe what you want but islame and Muslims are so wrong it's actually sad and scary.

I would be fine with you thinking it's all a joke rather then thinking "huh Muslims eh? Basically the 3rd patch of the aberhamic faith." Which is what a lot of people think.

"The chosen people stuff" is over, the is fulfilled.

The sermon by john the Baptist in where he was warning the religious leaders that their physical DNA didn't make them special, and that God could turn literal rocks into His chosen people if He wanted to.

There is no chosen people, that's the sin that's what MY problem with "Jews" are.

Matthew 3:9 and Luke 3:8

"And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham."

God and Jesus is love and he does love you. He doesn't have a chosen people in this regard.

And yes Jews look at non Jews as less then, it's basic xenophobic behavior. Not complicated at all. God hates that.

God is a personal being he isn't a force or energy and that might be where some may differ from me but I'm happy along with all who trust in Jesus and God.

Jesus made what if "dirty and unclean" clean.

Not that he made it via magic, he is changing how you should look at it. In the most basic understanding.

 

[Schwarzwald]

Yeah supposedly the secret societies are guarding the relics of Jesus not surprised


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Huge fan of behold the pale horse. But be careful just trusting a source just because it's in a book.

Most Orthodox churches hold relics, I honestly think Yahweh has stepped back not that he's not there but like you do with a child you take the training wheels off, the "magic" is gone and Yahweh doesn't want us touching that side of reality. That's where @newsincerity is idea of gnostics is a bit interesting even if just scrambled.

 

[Schwarzwald]

What do you think is false ?

And who knows my point is there’s numerous figures that have been written about who went to hell and came back to tell about it Across multiple cultures

But what if Dante had a vision or something ? I wouldn’t discount the ideas
Check out esoterism of Dante by rene guenon

Who knows though maybe it’s all fear mongering , I think hell could be a state of consciousness … if you harbour any resentment
in your heart is not good . My other theory is also be a never ending loop of the same events forever

What do you mean what do I think is false??

The divine comedy????????? " Danties inferno"???

Being written down doesn't make it some sort of gospel.

Ok let's say it was this circles back to what I was saying about schizophrenia.

Let's say it's absolutely real ok? I'm not going to pick it apart. In that case Jesus is right and again you should be follow Christ I don't think it's real like what is being said and most people say it was a work of fiction.

But what do these what ifs get us?

Will you follow the noahide? Good.

Are you gonna be a Christian ? Better?

And if in the end it's a who knows?

I guess?

That's is what faith is and if it hasn't found you yet or you it then it will, everyone has a point in there lives it feels like my they have a genuine chance to face God via pray or DMT or near death.

I'm not trying to get you to do anything but break your own chains and find comfort in the arms of God.

 

[Autistic_tendencies2]

What do you mean what do I think is false??

The divine comedy????????? " Danties inferno"???

Being written down doesn't make it some sort of gospel.

Ok let's say it was this circles back to what I was saying about schizophrenia.

Let's say it's absolutely real ok? I'm not going to pick it apart. In that case Jesus is right and again you should be follow Christ I don't think it's real like what is being said and most people say it was a work of fiction.

But what do these what ifs get us?

Will you follow the noahide? Good.

Are you gonna be a Christian ? Better?

And if in the end it's a who knows?

I guess?

That's is what faith is and if it hasn't found you yet or you it then it will, everyone has a point in there lives it feels like my they have a genuine chance to face God via pray or DMT or near death.

I'm not trying to get you to do anything but break your own chains and find comfort in the arms of God.

Dante is also about soul purification and the only way to do that is to experience hell first to redeem yourself and become decent human being,

Do you think I don’t believe in god?

 

[Autistic_tendencies2]

This is incorrect and Jesus only taught the "old testament"

From a personal experience, I go to church on Sundays and Bible studies on Thursday, the old testament is the beginning of the Bible my guy and we read and reference it constantly.

What Jesus did was complete that covenant.

And that should be understood, how can you walk in jesuses shadow without knowing what came before him and what he taught, aka the Torah.

This is why a lot of real Nazi are actually anti Christian and satanic in the end.

I might be a bit to loose and prone to making joking so @Ishmael would probably cover this better then I will because I tend to only phone post and 2% of my post of on a PC where I can sit and type out an actual long form reply and I want your answer to be properly addressed.

He was Jewish and infact quoted the Torah verbatim and it was one of the most impressive basic abilities he had done beyond the miracles.

Don't take this wrong but don't you think reading the Bible as it is the source you seem to want to be a part of would be critical to an understanding?

Yes the Noahide laws are simple it's vary interesting part of the aberhamic faith works isn't it?

So what I found so funny about your rabbis are cool and based thread made me kinda chuckle and why I said convert. In both regards you are always better off not being Jewish unless you wanted that weight and responsibility.

600 rules is a lot.

I am going to have to be very clear! Believe what you want but islame and Muslims are so wrong it's actually sad and scary.

I would be fine with you thinking it's all a joke rather then thinking "huh Muslims eh? Basically the 3rd patch of the aberhamic faith." Which is what a lot of people think.

"The chosen people stuff" is over, the is fulfilled.

The sermon by john the Baptist in where he was warning the religious leaders that their physical DNA didn't make them special, and that God could turn literal rocks into His chosen people if He wanted to.

There is no chosen people, that's the sin that's what MY problem with "Jews" are.

Matthew 3:9 and Luke 3:8

"And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham."

God and Jesus is love and he does love you. He doesn't have a chosen people in this regard.

And yes Jews look at non Jews as less then, it's basic xenophobic behavior. Not complicated at all. God hates that.

God is a personal being he isn't a force or energy and that might be where some may differ from me but I'm happy along with all who trust in Jesus and God.

Jesus made what if "dirty and unclean" clean.

Not that he made it via magic, he is changing how you should look at it. In the most basic understanding.

What do you think of the Neoplatonist view as god at the source of all good the one ?

 

[Schwarzwald]

Dante is also about soul purification and the only way to do that is to experience hell first to redeem yourself and become decent human being,

Do you think I don’t believe in god?

Ok well let me say I don't know what you think, I don't know you. Me and you know each other at best in passing and tangently.

So asking "Do you think I don’t believe in god?" Is absolutely moot.

The divine comedy is a work of fiction and if you have a head cannon about it being a "redemption" from hell thats fine.

Jews believe if you go to hell it's not forever but you want to seem to calm source material untill it doesn't work.

I have been clear from the start I'm hear for a discussion not antagonist back and forth, savy?

 

[Schwarzwald]

What do you think of the Neoplatonist view as god at the source of all good the one ?

Broooooooooooooooo

Ok fine.

The neoplatonic view? Of an impersonal good? Clearly you arnt reading my post and that's fine but I guess this is the end of the back and forth because I said very clearly I believe God is a personal entity and it seems like you ignored that or I loved your post what I wrote and that's fine that seems standard here.

Do I think God is an impersonal being?

I think it's pretty fine to cut it off, clearly you don't wish to engage.