How the fuck do a bunch of socially outcasted NEETs and incels understand the world better than the majority of educated, "well adjusted" people?

[Deleted member 52]

50.000001% is a majority, and 50% is the average. Same thing.


"majority of scientists" is leftist rhetoric. 100% genetic determinism is dumb and a way to avoid personal responsibility (the goal of the left and those trannies and foids, btw).



Sure, but that statement would be obvious. Most people agree STEM majors are smarter than humanitarians. That just has nothing to do with the words you said.

dumber than what or who?

This paragraph calls into question the entire point of your original post, as you now aren't talking about NEETs or Incels or outcasts, just saying that some people are smarter than others... Sure, I agree.

I mean, "responsibility" doesn't exist, and it doesn't really matter

The truth is, at birth, you are either someone of value or not. Trannies obviously are the most subhuman "people" to possibly exist. Same goes for niggers, homos, low IQs, poors, etc any ""marginalized"" group. Foids? Well I guess their main purpose is to have babies, and of course, it depends on their traits as well. Taller/smarter/etc women of course have more value and will have more eugenic kids.

Again, this is why I wish people were more pragmatic, because there are obvious solutions to many of these issues that we could pretty easily solve. We already can screen babies for certain conditions, and as technology advances more, we'll be able to tell more about them. We should just start aborting any baby with "unideal" traits. We can see by comparing us to Africa what the difference between a high IQ and a low IQ society is, now imagine we get even better at that.

 

[somethingtobelievein]

I mean, "responsibility" doesn't exist, and it doesn't really matter

Disagree. It exists. Manletmachine could've stopped being retarded, hence I don't feel bad for him. He wasn't "determined at birth" to be someone incapable of stopping himself.

The truth is, at birth, you are either someone of value or not. Trannies obviously are the most subhuman "people" to possibly exist. Same goes for niggers, homos, low IQs, poors, etc any ""marginalized"" group. Foids? Well I guess their main purpose is to have babies, and of course, it depends on their traits as well. Taller/smarter/etc women of course have more value and will have more eugenic kids.

100% determinism denies any range of outcomes.

Yes, bad genetics, bad place of birth, etc., are all against you. Statistically, the person with worse genetics will lose more of the time. Not all of the time, and in there are choices to be made which can move the odds. People who won't accept this don't want to face their own failures.

Again, this is why I wish people were more pragmatic, because there are obvious solutions to many of these issues that we could pretty easily solve. We already can screen babies for certain conditions, and as technology advances more, we'll be able to tell more about them. We should just start aborting any baby with "unideal" traits. We can see by comparing us to Africa what the difference between a high IQ and a low IQ society is, now imagine we get even better at that.

I know we're far past the original post now but still, getting rid of "unideal" traits as you define would wipe out most of the NEETs and Incels lol. A big one would be if you could isolate a predisposition towards being lazy, a utilitarian society would wipe them out.

 

[Deleted member 52]

50.000001% is a majority, and 50% is the average. Same thing.


"majority of scientists" is leftist rhetoric. 100% genetic determinism is dumb and a way to avoid personal responsibility (the goal of the left and those trannies and foids, btw).



Sure, but that statement would be obvious. Most people agree STEM majors are smarter than humanitarians. That just has nothing to do with the words you said.

dumber than what or who?

This paragraph calls into question the entire point of your original post, as you now aren't talking about NEETs or Incels or outcasts, just saying that some people are smarter than others... Sure, I agree.

Also, the post was partially made because of the people in my environment, yet this was objectively a top 1% environment.

If I think back to whenever I did baseline testing (as in, was graded on a percentile compared to the average person), I always scored 99th percentile+. And let me tell you I am not even saying this to brag, but whatever I did felt like an utter joke to me. Go look at SAT problems or something right now and tell me that they aren't extremely easy.
I am not some Einstein type genius. I do not have a 150 IQ. I'd say I'm smart but ultimately nothing special. So how was I able to breeze through life and school?

I genuinely do not know, that's what made me make some comments

 

[Deleted member 52]

I know we're far past the original post now but still, getting rid of "unideal" traits as you define would wipe out most of the NEETs and Incels lol. A big one would be if you could isolate a predisposition towards being lazy, a utilitarian society would wipe them out.

I mean yes, I do agree, although not because of laziness.
More so the mental problems they face, IQ, generally dysgenic traits. I mean so many people on those spaces just want a normie life and fail at even that, ofc they are dysgenic wastes of space

 

[Indrid]

more than 50% last. Seems like a good bet.

It's pretty close to 50% it lands on black, that's why I gamble every penny.

 

[somethingtobelievein]

Also, the post was partially made because of the people in my environment, yet this was objectively a top 1% environment.

If I think back to whenever I did baseline testing (as in, was graded on a percentile compared to the average person), I always scored 99th percentile+. And let me tell you I am not even saying this to brag, but whatever I did felt like an utter joke to me. Go look at SAT problems or something right now and tell me that they aren't extremely easy.
I am not some Einstein type genius. I do not have a 150 IQ. I'd say I'm smart but ultimately nothing special. So how was I able to breeze through life and school?

I genuinely do not know, that's what made me make some comments

I don't see at all the connection between this and what you originally posted, tbh.

Is scoring high on those tests related to understanding the world? I don't know which group those test results push you more towards.

 

[Deleted member 52]

I don't see at all the connection between this and what you originally posted, tbh.

Is scoring high on those tests related to understanding the world? I don't know which group those test results push you more towards.

It was a grievance with the "normie" world that I had at the time

Recently I had one with this community. Hence why I deleted my discord/cut off most of my incel friends. I made a post about this, so you know I'm not just pulling it out of my ass.

https://elysianfields.se/threads/i%E2%80%99m-seriously-considering-leaving-incelosphere-blackpill.2907/

 

[somethingtobelievein]

It's pretty close to 50% it lands on black, that's why I gamble every penny.

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Don't see where you're getting 50% even.

But, still, married people are happier. So, either take the coin flip for a 50% chance at a better outcome, or settle for the worse outcome to avoid your scary divorce court if you can't control your woman.

Normies win on that one pretty clearly in my eyes.

 

[somethingtobelievein]

It was a grievance with the "normie" world that I had at the time

Recently I had one with this community. Hence why I deleted my discord/cut off most of my incel friends. I made a post about this, so you know I'm not just pulling it out of my ass.

https://elysianfields.se/threads/i%E2%80%99m-seriously-considering-leaving-incelosphere-blackpill.2907/

Okay. So the jist is that non-normies are better than normies, and then your other post is that within the realm of non-normies, your sliver of non-normies are better than other non-normies.

And doing well on tests in school shows... that you're not a normie? Or that you're better? That's where I'm confused.

 

[Deleted member 52]

Okay. So the jist is that non-normies are better than normies, and then your other post is that within the realm of non-normies, your sliver of non-normies are better than other non-normies.

And doing well on tests in school shows... that you're not a normie? Or that you're better? That's where I'm confused.

That I'm neither. More and more I've just realized that I need to be isolated from most people.

 

[Indrid]

I saw a chance to make a silly so I took it, if you didn't realize I was making a silly you're ngmi.

But, still, married people are happier. So, either take the coin flip for a 50% chance at a better outcome, or settle for the worse outcome to avoid your scary divorce court if you can't control your woman.

Normies win on that one pretty clearly in my eyes.

This feels disgustingly condescending. Most people here won't be able to get married for reasons out of their control, women find them repulsive, either physically or mentally and so on. I guess I can say it's partly my choice even if women won't date me seeing how I wouldn't date the average normie girl if given the chance anyways.

 

[somethingtobelievein]

I saw a chance to make a silly so I took it, if you didn't realize I was making a silly you're ngmi.

This feels disgustingly condescending. Most people here won't be able to get married for reasons out of their control, women find them repulsive, either physically or mentally and so on.

Sorry, I mistook who was responding to me.

Marriage sucking was given as a reason *NON-normies are better, as if voluntarily avoiding marriage was the superior choice. That is what that is in response to. My b.

I guess I can say it's partly my choice even if women won't date me seeing how I wouldn't date the average normie girl if given the chance anyways.

Well, then yeah, kinda tbh.

 

[Indrid]

NON-normies are better

My only arguments is the same as why I dislike interacting with them. They are completely lacking in personality. They make it up by replacing it with something artificial. "I like sportsball so my personality now revolves around it" There's also the whole basing opinions on how said opinions will be seen by others, and incapable of actual discussion.

 

[somethingtobelievein]

This thread had 5 posts for 6 months before today kek

If @TheDevil would follow through and kill me none of you would have to put up with this.

 

[somethingtobelievein]

My only arguments is the same as why I dislike interacting with them. They are completely lacking in personality. They make it up by replacing it with something artificial. "I like sportsball so my personality now revolves around it" There's also the whole basing opinions on how said opinions will be seen by others, and incapable of actual discussion.

Trust, I hear you. You don't find a forum like this without questioning the norm to an extent.

But by all usual definitions I'm a "normie," so I can't help myself but question the questioners in threads like this.

 

[Xuelian Baijie]

This forum is pretty much private and she probably doesn't even know it exists. The posts she sees are from looksmax or neets

this guy feels like a cnn journalist. Sounds like he doesnt know manlet or been to the other forums

 

[somethingtobelievein]

this guy feels like a cnn journalist. Sounds like he doesnt know manlet or been to the other forums

I get that CNN is the funny one to pick on but no way in hell a single person at that dumb organization is obsessive enough to reply like I have been.

 

[Xuelian Baijie]

So you're educated?

Again, your original contention was that NEETs and Incels (emphasis on not in EDUCATION) "understand the world better than the majority of educated, 'well adjusted' people?"

You fall into the latter category

There are fewer neets on neets .net than any of my other hangouts

 

[somethingtobelievein]

There are fewer neets on neets .net than any of my other hangouts

I don't know what your hangouts are but sure.

I was working with what I was given in the OP that I disagreed with. It's funny to me that I'm getting called pedantic by biggest of big brains.

 

[Apollo]

well no examples were brought up. It was a declaration. If someone wants to provide a way that NEET and Incel communities "understand the world" better than people with careers and relationships I'd be happy to talk about that, but so far it was just circlejerking.

Yeah right, i rather enter a philsophy, psychics, psychology, writers group rather than a blend zero entry barrier NEET group to "understand the world", every single group is in some way or another trying to comprehend reality, if math is the language of the universe, then its a way of invading the fabrics of our creation, if philosophy question why, there is no reason to waste time on a neet forum, the quaility of output is so far up and precise.
I am developing my philosphy of destruction and am about to read this:
Concept of evil, Along with other books and psychology work, the incels provided two good frameworks of reality, blackpill and whitepill, but as we know its just genelarization of low phylosophy for non thinkers, and blackpill serves to take off the first awareness filter, its what social psychology does, its reconizes the nature of our behavior, who and why we act this way.

 

[Apollo]

You condone rape? Jesus christ that's not edgy it's just dumb. and clearly bad understanding of the world.

21 is not a kid, it's a full grown man. The fact that he has the body of a man with the brain of a toddler makes him more potentially dangerous.

Not realiy, our brains mature at 25, i am 21 and feel the same way since 16.

 

[Apollo]

You condone rape? Jesus christ that's not edgy it's just dumb. and clearly bad understanding of the world.

21 is not a kid, it's a full grown man. The fact that he has the body of a man with the brain of a toddler makes him more potentially dangerous.

Not realiy, our brains mature at 25, i am 21 and feel the same way since 16.